Obama VP poll Round 3: Crossover choices.

[mckeown1128]

Poll question: Obama VP poll Round 3: Crossover choices.

Round three is crossover choices... obviously these all bring the advantage of adding to the "unity" theme in Obama's campaign, which will help with independents. So, if you had to choose.

Don't forget to vote in these two previous polls if you haven't already:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5401703&mesg_id=5401703
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5410948


Mayor Mike Bloomberg

Pro: Was a Republican until recently, brings unlimited money, and has administrative experience.

Con: Isn't from a toss-up region, Obama doesn't need money, doesn't bring the needed foreign policy experience.


Gen. Colin Powell

Pro: Very popular among Reps/Indies, has loads of military and foreign policy experience, and pretty moderate (Pro-choice, affirm. action, gun control)

Con: May turn off Dems because of his UN Iraq speech and being his black will (wrongly) encourage false Obama black separatist rumors.


Sen. Chuck Hagel

Pro: vietnam vet which weakens McCain's "patriot" card, foreign policy experience, is from Nebraska where Obama is polling only 3 points behind McCain.

Con: Dems may be turned off by his solid conservative social policy.


Lincoln Chafee RI

Pro: RI Republican( which means RINO... in fact.. why wasn't he a Dem), voted against IWR, Progressive social policies.

Con: RI isn't in play, he couldn't hold his own senate seat and a he is a bit bland.

[DJ13]

1. I voted Bloomberg to help with Obama's economic plans

But of those you listed I really like Chafee best as a person.

He just doesnt bring anything (outside of his personal integrity) to the table for the GE.

[Adelante]

2. Just to point, Bloomberg was a Democrat most of his life

He became a Republican just to run for Mayor and now is an independent. But he's mostly non-partisan.

[mckeown1128]

3. Am I wrong in assuming he is generally considered a liberal in NY? nt

[galaxy21]

5. Two black men could never win, just being realistic

If a black president is a difficult adjustment for some people, then a black vp as well would just be too much.

[mckeown1128]

12. I don't know if a black vp would scare anyone off... but,

I am worried about the Hannity led bigot vote coming out in real droves against the ticket... The right wing talking heads especially Hannity have been pushing this "Obama may be hiding his black separatist opinions from us"... It is like they found a little loophole for racisism... it's the "were not racist it's the black man who is racist" bullshit talking point. If Obama picks a black vp... they will start screaming racism.

[Hutzpa]

34. Good point....

he could probably use him in another role.

[Adelante]

9. Yes, I would say so

He draws criticism on one thing or another, but overall liberal. I know some Democrats who dislike him, but I also know many who do like him enough to vote for him even when he was nominally a Republican.

[jackson_dem]

17. So was Zell Miller

[democrattotheend]

4. I have another idea - what about Olympia Snowe?

I woke up this morning thinking about this, for some reason. She's a moderate Republican with a lot of crossover appeal (I might have even considered voting for her if I lived in Maine), she's a woman, she comes from a state that could be in play, and she has 12 years of experience in the Senate and served in the House and the Maine legislature before that. She's pro-choice and well respected by people in both parties, and she could help Obama compete with McCain for independent voters. I believe she has endorsed McCain, but doubt she is on record saying anything about Obama that would disqualify her from consideration. And if they won, Gov. Baldacci would get to appoint a Democrat to replace her. I don't know if she would take the VP slot on a Democratic ticket, but if she would I think she might be perfect for Obama. What do you think?

[MADem]

24. She and Sue Collins have been mentioned more than once, but for McCAIN, not Obama. NT

[democrattotheend]

26. Didn't know that. But still, if McCain doesn't pick her, Obama should consider it.

[sniffa]

6. Speaking of typical VP creds

the only plausible candidate of these choices, is Hagel. That being said, I think he's a poor choice, as he only lines up on one (maybe a few minor ones more) issue, and it's not like he's going to bring the state of NE as it is one of the few states (how many are there anyway?) that proportion their GE Electoral Votes. I think he could help in a few areas of NE and some other states, but not enough to make him a valued choice for VP.

From my gut, I'd probably go for Chafee, and Bloomberg as a close second, if not tied.

[MADem]

25. Hagel lived in VA for twenty years before he "moved," sorta kinda.

His wife and kids, and him, when he's not campaigning in his "home" state, live in Great Falls, ,VA. Nice toney neighborhood not too too far from the Cap.

He's well established there. For what that is worth.

[newmajority]

7. I don't really like any of these guys.

Powell is a liar and a war criminal, albeit a repentant one. Even so, he does not deserve another chance, and certainly not in a Democratic administration.

Hagel has rejoined the sane portion of the human race when it comes to Iraq, but he's wrong on most other things. More importantly, he's one of the architects of the voting machine fraud which led to the Chimpministration in the first place. Hagel's own election to the Senate from Nebraska was accomplished via his own ES&S electro-fraud machines, and it's highly doubtful his results were legit.

Bloomberg changes parties the way most people change socks. I can't trust that.

Chafee - nothing against him really, but he's from Rhode Island. Don't see how that's going to help the ticket.

[ShaneGR]

8. Still none of the above, where is Richardson, Ohio Gov Strickland, Biden

IE, the obvious choices.I could name 10 names better than the ones you've posted in all three threads.

[MADem]

11. Did you read the subject line? CROSSOVER choices? NT

[MADem]

10. Chaffee is no longer a Republican. He left the party and that is a big deal

since he's a rock ribber. No help to the ticket, though.

Powell is as old as McCain, and he's associated with BushCo--One AND Two. He won't do it. The ticket would face charges of being "too down with the brown."

Hagel is assertive and can be charismatic, but I don't think he'd play second fiddle.

I don't think Bloomie would, either. He'd help with NY, maybe, but he doesn't bring anything to the ticket save money.

Of all, I'd say Hagel would help the most.

[mckeown1128]

13. I think Hagel is angling for VP actually...

all this talk about him endorsing Obama... I think he is upset with his own party and would go for it.

I didn't know Powell is as old as McCain... he doesn't look it... the thing I think is strong about Powell is that Reagan said he thinks Powell should be pres. one day... And since republican's put reagan on par with god, how would the republicans possibly attack Powell.. he would be untouchable.

[MADem]

23. Alma will NOT let Powell run. It's why he wasn't George's VP, it's why he didn't

run in 00.

He's too old now. Reagan's endorsement is past its sell-by date, as the man left the stage thirty years ago, that's more than a lifetime for some younger voters.


I don't know how much he'd help Obama. He's got a history. Former lobbyist, for starters. Owner of an election machine company (ES/S) secondly. That might push away people from the far left who have, to this point, ignored the fact that Obama isn't as liberal as they think he is.

[oviedodem]

14. I want a GOVERNOR!!!

Lets face facts the VP is not going to drive your foreign policy. That job is for Sec. Of State, Sec. of Defense, Homeland Security.

This country needs a good sound governor who knows economics or at least someone who knows economics.

[invictus]

30. I agree. A non-DLC governor. n/t

[DevonRex]

15. Oh hell. Changed my mind.

Doesn't matter, though. Maybe I like Hagel but for some reason I clicked Bloomberg this time. I'm so CONFUSED.

[jackson_dem]

16. An Obamite posting a thread for which rethug to choose VP...

Of course this isn't surprising to many of us. ;)

[Blondiegrrl]

21. You are so full of shit.

Are you pretending you didn't notice all the other VP-themed threads here over the last few days?
One of them featured all women. Another featured governors. The poster is putting all the VP candidates into categories. And yes, moderate Republicans should not be ruled out. Or are you supporting the Bush continuation of polarization of this country?

[David Zephyr]

18. None.

I don't like Republicans who spent their entire lives fighting us.

[Tippy]

19. NONE of the ABOVE.......

Sorry I don't vote for Republicans.....

[mckeown1128]

20. than don't vote in the poll.. geeze.. I am just doing different polls

every night for opinions.

[Blondiegrrl]

22. Hagel is the most viable of those listed, IMO. eom

[TheDonkey]

37. Yes, he brings the most to the ticket in regards to getting more votes as well

so I'd go with Hagel.

[bain_sidhe]

27. Easy vote...

Every one of these choices except Chaffee makes me run screaming. I'd rather crawl over broken glass than "vote" for any of the others, even if it is just an internet poll "vote."

[mckeown1128]

28. kick.nt

[SteppingRazor]

29. I voted in the other two polls, but fuck that.

No Republican on the ticket, I don't care who it is. Remember, God forbid a thousand times over, but the VP is only a heartbeat away from the presidency.

[Infinite Hope]

31. None of them. n/t

[mckeown1128]

32. kick for votes.nt

[mckeown1128]

33. kick.nt

[BlooInBloo]

35. So many DUers in favor of republicans - pathetic.

[Hutzpa]

36. Haven't voted yet

but found this about Chuck Hagel, this guy is a Progressive, my
question is, what is he doing over there with them (Republicans),
his voting record is a lot more than Hillary IMO.

Here see for your self;

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Chuck_Hagel.htm

I'm not so sure whether Dems would be encouraged by him
being a Republican though, I'm just worried about Obama
being sabotaged by folks that aren't committed to his vision.

[mckeown1128]

38. kick.nt

[mckeown1128]

39. kick.nt