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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:40 PM
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Republican Game Plan For Obama
This post in LBN shows the Repukes tipping their hand:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3261637

LINCOLN — The Legislature would express "profound regret" for Nebraska's role in slavery but would not apologize under a resolution advanced Wednesday by the Judiciary Committee.

After a long and sometimes heated debate, the committee amended the resolution to substitute condemnation of racial discrimination for an apology for the wrongs inflicted by slavery and its aftereffects.

The amended resolution no longer expresses the Legislature's "deepest sympathies and solemn regrets" to those who were enslaved and their descendants. But it encourages Nebraskans to teach their children about the history of slavery and its consequences.

The amended measure advanced on a vote of 6-0, with State Sens. Pete Pirsch of Omaha abstaining and Ernie Chambers of Omaha absent.


I did some looking into it, and the bill was proposed by a Repuke. My guess is any state that hasn't already apologized for slavery will get proposed legislation. This is something that ordinarily would be very non-controversial - until Rush or whomever picks it up and runs with, "gee, I don't want a president that I'm going to have to spend the next 4 years apologizing to."


I wouldn't want to start any kind of outcry, just giving a heads up.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:42 PM
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1. So this means that?
We should avoid replaying the civil war and just give it to Hillary? :shrug:

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:43 PM
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2. I don't think it'll grow legs..
Why the hell would a Repuke propose a bill like that? All they have claim to freeing slavery is that Lincoln was a Republican - which back then was entirely different in philosophy and politics than today's Republicans. If Lincoln was alive today - he'd be a Democrat, I think. Either that or Ross Perot.

Hawkeye-X
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:46 PM
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4. To Start a Meme
They can't very well do it the exact same way they did with the Gay Marriage issue. This just gets it out there.

If it stops with Nebraska, you're right no legs. If it spreads, it will be something that must be handled with subtlety.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:45 PM
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3. plonk.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:54 PM
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6. Thank You Thank You Thank You
Anyone know if there are any of his "I heart Monsanto" posts in open threads anywhere?

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:12 PM
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7. Monsanto you say? I'll play.
Personally, I don't feel that Monsanto is any more the demon spawn than other international conglomerates -- you know, the kind of companies whose lobbyists Hillary has declared ardently represent the American people. But, if you want to talk nasty about them, talk to somebody who actually loves them.

Hillary, Will You Renounce Your Ties to Monsanto?

By Linn Cohen-Cole

Dear Hillary,

By polling logic, I should be your supporter -- Democrat, woman, white, liberal. But this past summer I saw a News Hour show on farmers committing suicide in Maharastra, India, which affected me deeply. I started learning what was happening to farmers and to food and how the Clintons are connected.

...

"Genetic Engineering is often justified as a human technology, one that feeds more people with better food. Nothing could be further from the truth. With very few exceptions, the whole point of genetic engineering is to increase sales of chemicals and bio-engineered products to dependent farmers."

David Ehrenfield: Professor of Biology, Rutgers University.


Monsanto has a $10 million budget and 75 person staff to prosecute farmers.

Since the late 1990s (as industrial agriculture took hold in India),166,000 Indian farmers have committed suicide and 8 million have left the land (P. Sainath, The Hindu). Farmers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Indonesia, South America, Central America and here, have all protested Monsanto and genetic engineering.

What does this have to do with you?

Your Orwellian-named "Rural Americans for Hillary" were Monsanto's lobbyists. My greater concern, though, is you former-employer, Rose Law Firm, representing Monsanto, world's largest GE (GE - genetic engineering) corporation; Tyson, world's largest meat producer; Walmart, the world's largest retailer. Rose is home to Industrial FOOD.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4544828


You remember that thread, right? So ... has Hillary "thrown Monsanto under the bus" as you suggested?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:15 PM
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8. YOU PEEKED!
Two demerits.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:19 PM
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9. I'm more than happy to help you hijack your own thread. Shall we continue?
Hillary Clinton Cozy with Monsanto Lobbyists & Front Group

Hillary's 'Rural' Meeting Actually a Powwow With Lobbyists
The Daily Iowan, October 25, 2007
Straight to the Source


In politics, the theory of "six degrees of separation" is often used to link candidates with unfavorable companies, donors, or other elected officials. The world of Washington is a small one, and many times this intricately spun web, as critical as it is to furthering an agenda, can also damage its maker. Much of the time the silky threads remain unseen, until someone comes along and shines light behind them, making the connections visible to all.

Late last week, ABC News obtained an event invitation sent out by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential-nomination campaign that asked its recipients to join "Rural Americans for Hillary" for lunch and a briefing by members of Congress and senior campaign staff. The meeting will be held not in a small town in the Hawkeye State or Ohio or Kansas but in Washington, D.C. - a strange place to discuss issues affecting rural voters. Beyond strange is awkward, a word that could be used to describe the specific address for the event - the offices of Troutman Sanders, a lobbying firm. More specifically, the lobbying firm heavily relied upon by agribusiness giant Monsanto. Monsanto leads the industry in genetic livestock breeding and Superfund violations, and it will likely see a ban this week on one of its seed types in France because of health concerns. Monsanto was promised more than $680,000 in tax breaks Monday night, courtesy of the town of Ankeny, Iowa, just for promising to bring new jobs to the area. We're guessing this isn't the photo op Rodham Clinton wants for leaflets in Iowa, exchanging ideas over coffee and sandwiches with suits rather than John Deere hats. Maybe that's why Rodham Clinton herself won't be at the event, a wise choice considering how it might look.

Rather than defend the choice to the ABC journalist, Rodham Clinton spokesman Phil Singer pointed out that Fortress Investments, the hedge fund John Edwards used to work for, has invested in Monsanto and did so while employing Edwards. Singer also said the manager for Edwards' vice-presidential campaign in 2004, Peter Scher, is the managing partner for fellow Monsanto lobbying firm Mayer Brown. Singer continued, "In 2004, Edwards said, 'If you are looking for the candidate who will do the best job of attacking the other Democrats, I am not your guy.' But he's become that guy now that his 2008 campaign has stalled."

For the Rodham Clinton machine to completely ignore the question at hand and deflect attention from the "Rural Americans" event is suspect, but to do so by attacking another campaign on similar lobbying links is bizarre and more than slightly hypocritical. Edwards' associations aren't being denied, but they aren't what's being questioned, either. The Rodham Clinton campaign is the only operation of the three Democratic front-runners to take money from lobbyists, and for its success' sake, should keep such contact to a minimum. Meeting with lobbying interests in Washington under the pretense of taking interest in rural issues is a good way to offend Iowans, not gain their votes.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_7940.cfm

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:24 AM
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11. Whatever
Hey, did you see where Condi Rice just caused a ruckus over us having anyone associated with the ANC on the terrorism watch list? Isn't it nuts this wasn't done before?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7340248.stm

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has asked for "embarrassing" travel restrictions on Nelson Mandela and South African leaders to be lifted.

A bill has been introduced in the US Congress to remove from databases any reference to South Africa's governing party and its leaders as terrorists.

The African National Congress (ANC) was designated as a terrorist organisation by South Africa's old apartheid regime.

At present a waiver is needed for any ANC leaders to enter the country.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:48 PM
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5. Don't forget the red-herring "Reparations" debate, coming soon
from either Hil or McNasty
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:21 PM
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10. What?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:29 AM
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12. It is irrelevent what the GOP gameplan is
Two commercials wipe it out.

1. 100 years in Iraq
2. Third Bush term
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:16 AM
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13. Why would slavery be an issue in this campaign?
America is looking to the future and the problems facing us today not over 100 years ago.
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