so hillary has gotten a reporter suspended, a radio host suspended and threatened superdelagates

[ORDagnabbit]

to get votes...

does that about wrap it up?

[uponit7771]

1. Yeap, K&R'd...I'm starting to think she wouldn't be a good president.

[DearAbby]

2. She is against free speech.

:shrug:

[Beaverhausen]

3. How did she personally get Randi suspended?

that's news to me if she did.

[ORDagnabbit]

7. Fear and Intimidation.

[Beaverhausen]

10. so, she didn't.

that's what I thought.

[Whisp]

14. her Rottweiller, Larry Johnson had a large part in that.

yes, she did.

[rodeodance]

13. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???

[ORDagnabbit]

16. fear and intimidation dont leave fingerprints like on CSI

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[The Doctor.]

60. The new owner of Air America, Mark Green, is an outspoken Clinton supporter.

Randi Rhodes had become rightfully disgusted with Clinton's repeated steps over the line.

Mark Green needed any excuse to shut her up.

So, when she said something brash off the air, on her own time, in another venue that had nothing to do with Air America, and delivered in comedic, not serious fashion, He used that as an excuse to suspend her.

I'm sorry, is it rude of me to point out that we have this thing called "free speech" in this country?


Now, are you going to try and convince me that you are naïve and say that it was 'justified' and not politically motivated?

[rinsd]

69. If hes outspoken, then it should be easy to find proof.

Anything will do; a public statement, a donation, etc

Do you guys have any actual proof or is this all tinfoil?

[gateley]

81. No - not at all

(try to convince you it was justified). I think it was WRONG. EDIT to clarify I think her suspension was wrong.

I always think everything is financially motivated, so I assumed it was sponsor/advertiser pressure rather than Clinton's group.

But I don't know why I feel the need to come to her defense when I question charges against her -- they usually always turn out to be true.

(I've been told I do that because I'm from Seattle -- whatever that means :eyes:)

And no need to snark with the "free speech" comment, Dr.

[The Doctor.]

86. Not snarking, serious. She has the right of free speech off the air.

We both agree that the suspension was unjustified, and I'm not ruling out the possibility that sponsors complained, but it makes no sense for sponsors to complain about what she says off the air.

It's cleaner and simpler to look at this as a silencing... which we know corporations engage in based on politics.

I don't think Hillary necessarily had anything to do with it, but neither would it suprise me if she complained to him about Rhodes at some point.

[BlueIdaho]

4. Clintonocracy in action - nt.

[TexasObserver]

52. Idiocracy meets Mommy Dearest!

No more wire coat hangers, EVER!!

[gateley]

5. I don't know about the reporter,

but I think you're off base blaming her for Randi's suspension (she subsequently quit, by the way), and "threatening" SDs.

If you have proof, please provide links.

This is no better than the Hilary supporters making baseless charges against Obama.

[Debi]

62. Maybe threatening isn't the best word ME

but the treatment of Bill Richardson by the Clintons and their camp (and Bill Clinton's tantrum in California in front of SD's there) don't help but make one wonder how President Clinton (44) and President Clinton (42) will treat any dissent from her cabinet or the Congress.

[gateley]

71. You put it in perspective, Debi --

and now I agree!

One of the very first things that bothered me about HRC was a story about (and I'm going to get the specifics wrong, but I think you'll know what I'm talking about) was her notice to a magazine that she would cancel an interview if the magazine ran an article they had on Bill. The general response here was that 'campaigns do that all the time - no big deal', so I kinda forgot about it.

I've heard for years -- and I only VERY recently developed an interest in politics, and even I heard this -- that once you cross the Clintons, that's it.

So okay, I'm with the OP on the 'threatening' part of it. I retract my criticism. :hi:

[Debi]

75. It was GQ Magazine - the Clinton's threatened to pull out of the 'Man of the Year'

Piece on Bill Clinton if the mag didn't cut the piece on "Hillaryland" <-- her campaign's term, not mine.

GQ caved.

(and I don't think it happens 'all the time', just all the time with two particular political families. I'll let you guess who the other family is.....)

[gateley]

76. Yep, that's the one.

I got the specifics all screwed up, but I got the message loud and clear.

[Deep13]

6. She's threatened SD's?

What tabloid website did you read that on?

The other stuff those folks did to themselves.

[bunny planet]

8. Yup, pretty much.

I sure hope she doesn't get the nomination because no amount of nose holding will do it for me now.

[rodeodance]

9. Its the BO camp that has THREATENED black SD!! and NO she had NOT

threatened SD -nor has she had ANYTHING TO DO WITH RANDI RHODES!

[Beaverhausen]

18. word

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/02/AR2008030202434.html

[The Doctor.]

63. Threatened? When? Where?

[Raineyb]

94. When constituents call on their representatives to

actually represent their desires it's not a threat. It's called the electoral process.

No representative is entitled to their current position. If some activists feel the need to float the idea of a primary opponent (or actually run one.) to show their displeasure it's hardly along the lines of being leaned on by organized crime.

The Super-delegate is, naturally, free to ignore any and all pleas.

I cannot say one way or another about the Randi Rhodes issue although I have my theories.

Regards

[rinsd]

11. I love the made up bullshit!

The MSNBC guy I will give you because the campaign made direct complaints.

How have supes been threatened and how did Hillary get Randi Rhodes suspended?

[babylonsister]

29. How 'bout Clinton SDs threatening Pelosi? Is that cool?

Are Clinton's supporters threatening Pelosi?

WASHINGTON | A letter from 20 top Democratic donors supporting Hillary Rodham Clinton to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi includes a statement that Pelosi should remember they are big donors to Congressional campaigns.

In the letter, the donors note they "have been strong supporters” of the House Democrats’ fundraising arm.

“We therefore urge you to clarify your position on superdelegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the national convention in August.”

Obama spokesman Bill Burton said, “This letter is inappropriate and we hope the Clinton campaign will reject the insinuation contained in it.”

http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/10674

[rinsd]

37. Umm those are donors, not superdelegates.

But if you want to talk about threats towards superdelegates here ya go

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/obama.defections/index.html

[babylonsister]

38. OK, but they are Clinton supporters! I'm assuming they had the

blessing of Clinton to do this. Not too cool in my opinion, but you can excuse any behavior you'd like.

[rinsd]

42. I never said it was cool.

Its a my way or I'm taking the ball and going home attitude which is bullshit.

If the OP wants to post on that, they should have at it instead of making up shit for the umteenth flamebait thread in GDP today.

[Beaverhausen]

44. did you read the link in that post?

both sides are using intimidation here. It's called politics. You might have heard of it.

[rodeodance]

56. BHO camp threatened BLACK SD's

[SeaLyons]

12. Another accusation with no proof...

and her name is Senator Clinton to you.

Go Hillary!!

:rofl:

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[ORDagnabbit]

19. prove that I am lying. fear and intimidation do not leave fingerprints like on CSI

[rodeodance]

24. YOU MADE A CLAIM-NOW BACK IT UP OR STFU

[ORDagnabbit]

33. you know maybe you should use bigger capitol letter. LOL

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[K Gardner]

83. I didn't even have to look at the author's name to know who you were responding to.. LOL..the

capitol letters and use of the word (s): YOU LIE LIAR, etc., gives it away everytime.

[burythehatchet]

92. I commend your restraint. I might not have been as kind to that POSter

[Catherine Vincent]

89. LOL!

Don't let the Obamabots get to you. That's twice you've used the stfu phrase. :)

[ORDagnabbit]

23. The Clintons and their surrogates are all about inimidation and fear..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080327/pl_nm/usa_politics_pelosi_dc

Clinton backers warn Pelosi on superdelegate rift

[MadAndy]

58. Lets see. She demanded that Shuster be fired for the "pimping Chelsea"

remark. She treatened to boycott debates on MSNBC if Chrissy Matthews didnt apologize for saying she was only in the race because her husband was President. For years she has used the thug Anthony Pellicano to investigate and threaten numerous people. Is than enough examples?

[thereismore]

That's so true! All she has to show for is a trail of destruction and burned bridges. nt

[Tom Rinaldo]

17. The reporter got himself suspended through his own behavior

There was a private email exchange with the Clinton campaign where an apology was sought and refused prior to anything public being said. And of course at the time a lot of people claimed that Clinton was trying to get him fired and even though there were denials few were willing to believe them. But he's back on the air now.

And I too would like to see where it was Clinton rather than Air America who decided Rhodes needed a suspension.

[Beacool]

20. Excuse me,

but she's not the one who has her supporters threatening elected officials along racial lines.

[ORDagnabbit]

25. got a link? heres one of mine

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080327/pl_nm/usa_politics_pelosi_dc

Clinton backers warn Pelosi on superdelegate rift

[Beaverhausen]

30. here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/02/AR2008030202434.html

[Beacool]

68. Thank you!!

Saved me the trouble of looking for the link.

[Beaverhausen]

88. yeah, but the none of the Hillary haters are bothering to open the link

they are too afraid to read something bad about their messiah.

[DJ13]

22. "Ready to intimidate on day one"!

She's a good right winger.

[Cha]

26. And, don't forget..

Sir elton freakin' john has labeled us as misogynists and oh, btw, we could all go to hell.

He may be able to sing and play the piano quite well but that doesn't carry any weight with me when he's screwin' around with my country. Backatcha, stupid.

[WolverineDG]

39. So what if he did?

All that's going to do is prompt Keith to run his "Rude vile pig" footage again, so consider the source.

:)

dg

[PVnRT]

27. Randi Rhodes is off AAR because her show sucks

Clinton has little to do with it.

[stellanoir]

28. How many kitchen sinks can one woman have?

yikes

She is to kitchen sinks what Imelda was to shoes or Baby Doc's wife was to furs to wear in the freezer with her girlfriend.

[DJ13]

31. $109 million buys a lot of sinks

[ampad]

34. Yet she still cannot or will not pay her bills

[MadAndy]

65. Maybe she can just send Bill out to collect more bribes and peddle more influence

for things she SAYS she opposes. NEVER has an ex president used his postition to profiteer to such an extent.

[stellanoir]

36. But how does one manage them all?

Hopefully far better than her campaign or surrogates or her behavior.

[mckeown1128]

32. Threatened the DNC with her fundraisers. nt

[Lord Helmet]

35. don't forget David Shuster on MSNBC

[rodeodance]

47. Dave S. own behavior with his poddy mouth did it to himself

[Lord Helmet]

50. god you guys are annoying

[rodeodance]

59. so, the truth is annoying to you? too bad

[rodeodance]

40. *****So, BHO HAS THREATENED BLACK SD's. played the race card, and

his lawyered worked to disenfranchise voters in fl and mi to
win the nomination.

what else?

[WolverineDG]

41. Don't forget Stephanie Miller & Ed Schultz

calling radio stations demanding that they be taken off the air & contacting their sponsors = intimidation

dg

[rinsd]

43. Gotta a link or is this more made up bullshit?

[WolverineDG]

45. How's about the many times they've mentioned it on air?

That good enough for ya?

dg

[rinsd]

48. You offer that as proof?

I actually did a little research and the only thing I found is this lame ass petition calling for a Stephanie Miller boycott signed by a whooping 62 people quite a few of which were anonymous.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stopmiller/signatures-1.html

[WolverineDG]

64. Yes, I do nt

[rinsd]

70. Then you have nothing.

[WolverineDG]

78. no, I have the truth

something your side has in short supply.

dg

[rinsd]

84. What truth? You can't even link to a podcast where Ed or Stephanie mention this

"something your side has in short supply."

Ahhh more your group sucks, my group rocks bullshit.

Good luck with that.

[WolverineDG]

91. Try listening to her show

she mentions it often. And you can't link to a podcast because you have to have a subscription. So, if you still don't believe me, ask Botany about it. Thanks for playing!

dg

[rodeodance]

74. Ha ha ha

[Jensen]

49. It appears she has done all that...But has she paid her bills?

[Debi]

67. Eh, no

:yoiks:

[TexasObserver]

51. She's the second coming of Tonya Harding with a Tracy Flick twist.

[rodeodance]

54. just like your leader-BO was the first to mention Tanya Harding!

[LisaM]

66. I know. It's classic double speak and loaded questions

This incessant barrage of hatred towards HRC has been quite eye opening. The latest I saw was a very negative BO radio ad in Pennsylvania accusing Hillary of being negative towards him! It was crazy. I only saw the script of the Obama ad, didn't hear or read the supposed negative Hillary ad (OF COURSE) and the ironic twist is that HRC is negative, but BO, with his negative ad, is not.

The likes of BO's hypocrisy know no bounds. It will come back on him, mark my words.

[Bolo Boffin]

73. I hope you'll take the time to read Skinner's new post about refering to candidates by name.

Perhaps you will begin to listen.

[anon504]

53. they got themselves suspended

with their misogynist comments.

[LowerManhattanite]

55. Wow. Somebody in here missed their anti-ALL CAPS dose of Lithium today! :) n/t

[Debi]

57. Don't forget the pot-n-pan protest against free speech

:hi:

[WolverineDG]

80. What time does the Today show start?

Who knew :popcorn: was a breakfast food?

:hi:

dg

[Debi]

82. 7:00 AM here in Iowa

I'll have my :popcorn: ready!

[indimuse]

61. I'm going to start responding the way MOST

Obama fans do....LIAR!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

72. and she's hiding under your bed

[Bolo Boffin]

77. Hillary don't play.

She wants to win. I don't blame her.

And her actual culpability in these actions is a matter of debate...

[Symarip]

79. One more thing...

She's gotten people motivated to bang pots on a daytime television show.

[saracat]

85. Actually Obama has threatened AA suprdelegates, cheated at the caucus

and double registered student voters as well as passed out GOP voter registrations to re-register folks as Repugs for the GE . Does that wrap it up? Jiminy Christmas, you folks are beyond naive.

[hayu_lol]

87. As for the threats to Pelosi...

how many of us, from either camp/campaign, would love to have some way to threaten Pelosi to force Impeachment of our criminals be placed back on the table?

[GoldieAZ49]

90. If she has that much power as a nominee image when she is POTUS

the reporter and radio hosts problems are of their own making. If they are not mature enough to discuss politics without reference to pimps and whores they should get out of the pimping and whoring business.

[VotesForWomen]

93. they're all victims of the evil hillary. they bear no responsibility for their actions. nt

[IsItJustMe]

95. Gonna be a large body count under her before it's all over with.

[IsItJustMe]

96. dup

[Zachstar]

97. This topic sucks. Please remove it.

BTW you are posting libel about Clinton when it comes to Rhodes. She had nothing to do with the situation.

You are not helping Obama.