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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:06 AM
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“OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS Friday April 11-2008

WELCOME TO “OBAMA SUPPORTERS” DAILY NEWS

Friday April 11-2008


Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama D-Ill., talks with a supporter
after he spoke during a rally at Washington High School in South Bend, Ind.,
Wednesday, April 9, 2008. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:07 AM
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1. I know its the back of his head, but her face is beautific
thats a special picture! Emotions really showing through.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:08 AM
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2. Skinner The DU Presidential Primary Guide to Good Citizenship and Survival
A must read:

Apr 10 • The Democratic presidential primary is now well into its fourth month (or its 16th

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/?az=hp_redir&forum=132&thread=5447295&author=100801
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:08 AM
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3. PHOTOS: Barack Obama campaigning in South Bend last night and today in Gary, Indiana
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:10 AM
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4. PA goes McCain? Dont think so...
PA goes McCain? Dont think so...by MarcTGFG Daily Kos Apr 10, 2008

While many polls seem to show a real possibility of PA voting for McCXain over Obama in the GE and many commentators in the loberal blogosphere have jumped on that bandwaggon, there are signs that any such fear is unwarranted.

Just look at Todays TIME poll out of PA. On the face of it, it shows HRC with a clear lead over Obama in the primary and also polling considerably better against McCain, narrowly winning PA, while Obama would loose.

Nothing ambigous here, it seems.
Well, you'll have to look somwhat deeper into the polls internals, to find out whats really going on here...Roughly a quarter of Clinton voters -- 26%, the poll found -- say they 'would be more likely' to vote for John McCain in the general election if Obama is eventually the Democratic nominee. By contrast, only 16% of Obama's backers report they would be likely to vote for McCain if Clinton emerged as the party's nominee.

Wow, so much bitterness in the HRC ranks.
But lets take a look at the favoribility ratings each candidate gets by all Democratic primary voters….

What we have here is typical posturing of voters who use their threat potential,
to make the electablitity argument for their candidate…..

…more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:11 AM
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5. McCain. The 100 Years Hedge

McCain. The 100 Years Hedge

Andrew Sullivan 09 Apr 2008

Josh Marshall comments on the GOP trying to distance McCain from his 100 years comment:

Here's why Republicans are scared to death of this. No one wants to be in Iraq 100 years from now, even if McCain stipulates to the fantasy that Iraqis will be happy having us occupy their country forever and that the place will become like Finland. And none of our soldiers will ever get killed there and it won't cost any money. If that's the explanation for why we shouldn't be concerned that he's happy to stay in Iraq for a century, that just tells people that McCain is living in a fantasy world.


….My own view is that McCain's comment, in its most benign formulation, misses the key element here: Islam. One reader helpfully pointed out that occupied Japan also had a fiercely proud populace revolted by foreign troops. Sure: but it had been defeated as a unitary state and its Emperor (which we wisely retained) gave the occcupiers sanction. No such unitary state exists in Iraq; and Islam forbids the rule of infidels in its own heartlands - and Iraq has central religious importance for its various shrines and religious centers in the Muslim mind. Secularism has been in decline for a couple of decades. There is no way an Arab Muslim country will tolerate Western troops permanently based on their land - without constant war and threat of war. To believe otherwise is to engage in a "holiday from reality." We've done enough of that.

The future of a permanently occupied Iraq is less likely to be Japan than the West Bank. And the deeper we are stuck there, the more our predicament will become the awful, morally corrosive, soul-sapping experience of the occupying Israelis.
…more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:12 AM
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6. First thoughts: Return of the neocons?

First thoughts: Return of the neocons?

First Read Thursday, April 10, 2008 Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro

*** Return of the neocons? Take today’s New York Times piece about nervousness among some GOP foreign policy pragmatists about the influence of neocon philosophy in the McCain campaign -- along with the Chicago Tribune story about McCain not ruling out a preemptive strike against a potential threat like Iran -- and it appears the Democrats have their talking point of the day on McCain: He'll be a third term on Bush foreign policy.

Here’s a key graf from the Times: "The concerns have emerged in the weeks since Mr. McCain became his party’s presumptive nominee and began more formally assembling a list of foreign policy advisers. Among those on the list are several prominent neoconservatives, including Robert Kagan, an author who helped write much of the foreign policy speech that Mr. McCain delivered in Los Angeles on March 26… Others include the security analyst Max Boot and a former United Nations ambassador, John R. Bolton.”

And toss in the fact that Colin Powell continues to flirt with NOT endorsing McCain, and the campaign doesn't have a pragmatic 41-styled foreign policy face to disprove this storyline for now. Powell and Chuck Hagel might be the most prominent faces of this wing of the GOP these days and both are flirting with Obama.


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:13 AM
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7. McCain is To Bush As Vista is to XP

McCain is To Bush As Vista is to XP

Oliver Willis Published April 10, 2008

The same old garbage wrapped up in a shinier package.

The likely Republican presidential nominee was asked Wednesday at a town-hall style meeting if he would reject “the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war,” a reference to Bush’s decision to invade Iraq without it having attacked the United States.

“I don’t think you could make a blanket statement about pre-emptive war, because obviously, it depends on the threat that the United States of America faces,” McCain told his audience at Bridgewater Associates Inc., a global investment firm.

Using this analogy, Obama is not the Mac (an elegant well functioning OS I happen to be a switcher to, but with limited appeal), but he is in fact the iPod. A tiny little device that was underestimated at its debut but soon, in aggregate, grew to dominate the market and upend an entire industry.


And Obama is the iPod? Cool.


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:15 AM
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8. LOOK! Obama's 20 years of experience
FrenchieCat

Apr 10 • Obama's 20 years of experience Though often described as an upstart or
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/?az=hp_redir&forum=132&thread=5443903&author=132844
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:15 AM
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9. something completely different
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:17 AM
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10. Obama memo - Clinton: "A history of misleading voters"
Note: 15 of the 30 years experience Sen Clinton refers to was spent as a corporate lawyer.

Obama memo - Clinton: "A history of misleading voters"

Posted at The Page by Mark Halperin on April 10, 2008

Obama Camp Memo on Clinton “Misleading” VotersTO: Interested Parties
FR: Obama Campaign
RE: A history of misleading voters
DA: March 20, 2008

______________________________________________________________________________

Senator Clinton likes to claim that she’s been vetted. But there is a salient theme emerging that has not been examined at all in this race: Senator Clinton has consistently made political calculations to deliberately mislead the American people and the voters have noticed. A new Gallup poll <http://www.gallup.com/poll/105097/Perceived-Honesty-Gap-Clinton-Versus-Obama-McCain.aspx> shows a staggering figure: far fewer Americans think Clinton is trustworthy than think she isn’t, by a margin 44-53 percent. And in the exit polling <http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Damage.html> from the most recent primary, Clinton was viewed as honest and trustworthy by only 52 percent of Democratic voters.

For too long, the media has failed to live up to its historic obligation of holding candidates accountable for their contradictions on the campaign trail, and it’s time that Senator Clinton be questioned aggressively about this pattern of misleading voters.

A general election liability

Honesty is a crucial metric in this race because the Democratic nominee is going to be running against John McCain, who is viewed by voters as one of the most trustworthy politicians in America. In the same Gallup poll, McCain scored 67-27 on honesty (with Obama’s honesty rating at 63-29). After eight years of an untrustworthy President, can we really expect that a candidate who is viewed as so much more dishonest than McCain will somehow be able to beat him?

A history of misleading voters

Senator Clinton’s newly released White House schedules—showing a lack of candor on her NAFTA Record, her role in passing FMLA, and her role in key foreign policy decisions—are just the latest in what has become a legacy of misleading voters. On issue after issue, Clinton says one thing while her record says another.

Her Iraq vote. Clinton says she voted for diplomacy, while on the Senate floor at the time she said she was casting a “vote that might lead to war” and doing it “with conviction.”

Foreign Policy Experience. Clinton claims that she’s been “tested” on foreign policy and that she’s experienced in handling foreign crises. But her White House records show that she was consistently absent when critical decisions were being made, and that her trips abroad were largely ceremonial.

The Michigan and Florida primaries. Back when it suited her political purposes she said the Michigan primary “didn’t count for anything” and that she wasn’t leaving her name on the ballot to try to legitimize the results. But now that she desperately needs more votes, she’s doing just that. And despite her pledge not campaign in either state, she held two campaign events in Florida.

Fully vetted. Clinton openly tells voters that she’s been fully “vetted,” choosing to obscure from them the fact that she won’t release her tax returns, earmark requests, or the donors to the Clinton library.

Her position on NAFTA. Clinton tells Ohio voters that she has “been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning.” Yet her own schedules show that as First Lady she attended at least four meetings to advocate for its original passage.

Her role in passing the Family and Medical Leave Act. Clinton credits herself with “helping to pass” the Family and Medical Leave Act as First Lady. But the 11,000 pages of schedules don’t contain a single mention of her involvement in the issue.

Obama’s religion. In a “60 Minutes” interview, Senator Clinton refused to confirm that Senator Obama is a Christian, even though she knows the facts.

Reverend Wright. Even though it has been reported yesterday that Clinton is pushing Senator Obama’s association with Reverend Wright in attempt to rattle superdelegates, Clinton refused to give a straight answer. She would only say that their campaign “has been making the case that I am the most electable” before shrugging and prompting the next question.

35 Years in Public Service. The oft-repeated Clinton claim that she has 35 years of public service experience is simply false. Fifteen of those years were spent at a law practice.

Lingering questions

It’s time for Hillary Clinton to explain these inconsistencies—and to put an end to the dishonesty. As she campaigns in working-class areas of Pennsylvania, will she finally admit to workers that she was one of the chief proponents of NAFTA? Will she admit to even a basic understanding of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002? Will she drop FMLA from her list of accomplishments?

And if she won’t, will the press call her on it?

IRAQ?

Washington Post Fact Checker Debunks Clinton Claim That She Voted Against Limiting The President’s Authority To Attack Iraq Because She Didn’t Want To Give The U.N. Veto Authority. Clinton, on why she voted against three other important votes during that time period to limit the President’s authority to attack Iraq said “Well, I also voted, Tim, to limit the president’s authority to a year. That was another one of Senator Byrd’s amendments which I strongly supported. It was not successful. I have seen, obviously now, what has occurred by this president’s use of the authority that he was given, and I regret the way that he used authority. But I think it’s important to recognize that the United Nations is a very important tool in international diplomacy, in peacekeeping to bring the world together. But I do not want to give the United Nations a veto over actions taken by any president.” Washington Post fact checker: “There are arguments on both sides about whether the Levin amendment ceded authority to the United Nations. But Clinton is also going too far when she claims that passage of the amendment would have had the effect of subordinating ‘whatever our judgment might be going forward to the United Nations Security Council.’ There was always an escape clause.” <“Meet the Press,” 9/23/07 <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20941413/print/1/displaymode/1098/> ; Washington Post, 2/1/08 <http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/clinton_and_the_iraq_vote.html> >

FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT?

There Are No Mentions Of The Family And Medical Leave Act On Clinton’s Schedule Before Bill Signing It Into Law Even Though She Gives Herself Credit For “Helping To Pass” The Bill. “One notable absence in the 11,000 pages of the former First Lady’s schedule from the National Archives released today — any mention on her schedules of the Family and Medical Leave Act before her husband signed the bill into law. That’s interesting, because in speeches and on her website, the Clinton campaign repeatedly gives Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, credit for “helping to pass” the Family and Medical Leave Act.” http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/family-and-medi.html> >

NAFTA?

Clinton Claimed That She Was A Critic Of NAFTA From The Beginning, But Clinton’s Schedules Show That On NAFTA She “Promoted Its Passage” And She Supported NAFTA In 2003. “Clinton now argues that the North American Free Trade Agreement needs to be renegotiated, but newly released records showed on Wednesday she promoted its passage.” Clinton, at the Cleveland debate, said “You know, I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning. I didn’t have a public position on it because I was part of the (Clinton) administration. But when I started running for the Senate, I have been a critic.” In her memoir, Clinton wrote: “Creating a free trade zone in North America—the largest free trade zone in the world—would expand U.S. exports, create jobs and ensure that our economy was reaping the benefits, not the burdens, of globalization. Although unpopular with labor unions, expanding trade opportunities was an important administration goal. The question was whether the White House could focus its energies on two legislative campaigns at once . I argued that we could and that postponing health care would further weaken its chances.” http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1933416820080320> ; AP, 2/26/08 <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080227/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_trade> ; Living History, 182>

COMPLIANCE WITH PARTY RULES?

Clinton Campaigned In Florida And Held Two Events After Signing A Pledge Not To Campaign In Florida. “Hundreds of thousands of people have already voted in Florida and I want them to know I will be there to be part of what they have tried to do to make sure their voices are heard,” said Clinton before jetting to Sarasota and Miami for events on Sunday. The Clinton campaign claims that the senator from New York is abiding by the no-campaigning pledge because Sunday’s two Florida events were technically closed to the public. But the stops were treated as major news events in a state where many Democrats have expressed anger over the absence of the party’s presidential candidates during a period when Florida is overrun by Republican contenders. The truth of the Clinton strategy was writ large in a memo from top strategist Howard Wolfson, who announced on the day of the campaign’s dismal showing in South Carolina that, “Regardless of today’s outcome, the race quickly shifts to Florida, where hundreds of thousands of Democrats will turn out to vote on Tuesday. Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians, their voices will be heard loud and clear across the country, as the last state to vote before Super Tuesday on February 5.” Her arrival is Sarasota was timed so that she could be photographed with palm trees behind her. “It is a perfect day here in Florida,” declared a bemused candidate who officially was not campaigning in Florida as she posed for the classic Florida campaign photo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080128/cm_thenation/1276341> >

Clinton Said Michigan Results Were Fair And Should Be Honored—After Saying It Was Clear That The Michigan Primary Did Not Count For Anything. In March, Clinton Said The Results Of The Michigan Primary Were “Fair And They Should Be Honored.” “Sen. Hillary Clinton on Wednesday warned that millions of people in Florida and Michigan ‘are in danger of being excluded from our democratic process’ if their votes are not counted. … ‘The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored,’ Clinton told a breakfast gathering hosted by the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Foundation in Washington.” In October, Clinton said “Well, you know, people in Michigan are flat on their backs. They have the highest unemployment rate in America. They are now grappling finally with what they are going to do with the auto industry. 1 in 10 jobs in America is tied to the auto industry which is – the American auto industry, which as we know is centered in Michigan. You know, it’s clear this election they’re having isn’t going to count for anything. But I just personally didn’t want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever. And then after the nomination we have to go in and repair the damage and be ready to win Michigan in November 2008.”

FOREIGN POLICY?

FactCheck.org: “The Public Record Of Her Actions Shows That Many Of Clinton’s Foreign Policy Claims Are Exaggerated.” “On March 6 Hillary Clinton claimed that, unlike Barack Obama, she and likely Republican nominee John McCain have ‘cross the commander-in-chief threshold.’ In a CNN interview the day before, Clinton had listed five foreign policy accomplishments. We can’t determine how much behind-the-scenes work Clinton did while first lady, and she certainly took an active interest in foreign policy when her husband was president. Moreover, her time as first lady plus her longer Senate career do give Clinton more foreign policy experience than Obama. But the public record of her actions shows that many of Clinton’s foreign policy claims are exaggerated.” http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/hillarys_adventures_abroad.html> >

FOREIGN TRIPS: Clinton’s “Sanitized, Ceremonial Trips Abroad” Were “Hardly Preparation” For Foreign Policy Duties Of Presidency. Hillary Clinton highlights her “extensive travel to more than 80 countries as First Lady and her 1995 women’s rights speech to the U.N. to demonstrate of her foreign policy experience. “But these sanitized, ceremonial trips abroad are hardly preparation for the middle-of-the-night call from the Situation Room.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20010704/site/newsweek/> , 8/6/07>

NORTHERN IRELAND: Irish Policymakers, Fact Checkers Debunk Clinton’s Exaggerations. FactCheck.org: Clinton’s activities ‘helped bring peace to Northern Ireland.’ Irish officials are divided as to how helpful Clinton’s actions were, and key players agree that she was not directly involved in any actual negotiations.” Politifact.com: “Clinton claimed that she ‘helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland.’ That’s the kind of thing that Mitchell, Hume or Trimble could accurately say. But based on our interviews and research, it’s a stretch for Clinton to say so. Although she played a role, especially with women in Northern Ireland, her statement leaves the impression that she was more involved than she was. We find her statement to be Half True.” “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it,” says Brian Feeney, an author and former leading Belfast politician. “Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a ‘wee bit silly’ for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province. Washington Post fact checker: “Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir “Living History.” <…> her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together “for the first time” seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology.” http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/clinton_and_northern_ireland.html> , 1/10/08; AP, 3/8/08 <http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLINTONS_EXPERIENCE?SITE=CAGRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT> > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/392/> ; FactCheck.org, 3/13/08 <http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/hillarys_adventures_abroad.html> ; Telegraph, 3/8/08 <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml> >

KOSOVO: Washington Post, On Clinton’s Role In Kosovo: “The Record shows That Took An Intelligent Interest In All These Issues, Addressing Conferences And Meeting With Victims Of War, But Did Not Get Involved In Diplomatic Negotiations In An Meaningful Way. Her Role Was More Symbolic Than Substantive.” The Clinton campaign has provided various news clips to support Hillary Clinton’s claim during last night’s debate about “negotiating with governments like Macedonia to open their border again, to let Kosovar refugees in.” The news articles make clear that Clinton visited Albanian refugee camps in Macedonia on May 14, 1999, during the NATO bombing war against Serbia. Macedonia had closed its borders the previous week, in order to stem the flow of Albanian refugees from Kosovo. The Macedonian government reopened the border on May 13, the day before Clinton toured the camps. According to this CNN report, only a few stragglers crossed the border. Clearly, Clinton’s visit to Macedonia helped focus even more international attention on the country and the refugee crisis that resulted from the forced expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Albanians from Kosovo by the Serbian authorities. According to a May 16 Chicago Tribune report cited by the Clinton campaign, Clinton announced the “release of the first $ 2 million in a $ 21 million economic development package for Macedonia” at a meeting with Macedonian government leaders. The question is whether Clinton personally negotiated the deal with the Macedonian government–or U.S. diplomats used her forthcoming visit as an additional incentive to persuade the Macedonian authorities to re-open the border. The sequence of events–first the border reopening, followed by Clinton’s visit to the camps and her meeting with Macedonian government leaders–points to the second scenario…Her role was more symbolic than substantive. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/democratic_debate_jan_30_2008.html> >

RWANDA: NY Times Rebuts Bill And Hillary Clinton’s Claims That Hillary Clinton Asserted Herself On Rwanda. During a brief question and answer period with the audience , the former president was asked about times during his presidency in which the Clinton’s disagreed and which he now acknowledges she was right. One instance, he said, was in not moving quickly to send U.S. troops to fight the genocide in Rwanda in 1994. ‘I think she would have clearly done that,’ he said, noting at the time he had concerns about military activities in Bosnia and that no one knew how bad the situation in Rwanda would turn out to be.” On This Week, George Stephanopoulos asked Hillary Clinton if she had urged Bill Clinton to intervene in Rwanda and she agreed with her husband’s remarks. The New York Times reported, “During those two terms in the White House, Mrs. Clinton did not hold a security clearance. She did not attend National Security Council meetings. She was not given a copy of the president’s daily intelligence briefing. She did not assert herself on the crises in Somalia, Haiti and Rwanda.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26clinton.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1198685533-gcihaa8xG62p8zYjBC/PhQ> , 12/26/07> http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/bill_clinton_wife_a_proven_age.html> , 12/10/07; ABC, This Week, 12/30/07>

FULLY VETTED?

Clinton Claims To Be Fully Vetted But Does Not Release Tax Returns And Cites Presidential Privilege On Information Related To Her White House Years, Drawing Criticism Even From Allies. Clinton’s “gates-drawn stance raised concerns that shadow her presidential bid today — that she reacts with a siege mentality under pressure, retreating behind a restrictive wall of presidential and attorney privilege. ‘There’s no question that her first instinct was to protect herself and the president,’ said former Clinton chief of staff Leon E. Panetta.” Roger Simon wrote, “Take the matter of her tax returns. Obama has released his, and Clinton won’t release hers, she says, until after she is the Democratic nominee. Why? She gives no reason. She says she files an ethics statement with the Senate, which is true, but so does Obama, and yet he also has released his tax returns. Clinton refuses to do so until after the Democratic convention. Does this make sense to anybody? If she is going to do it eventually, why not do it now, while Democrats are still voting on her? Keeping the returns secret just raises doubts and suspicions and kicks a hole in the case that she has been fully vetted.” The New York Times editorial board wrote, “Of the leading contenders, so far, only Senator Barack Obama has released his full income-tax returns — a level of disclosure once routine for candidates after the political corruption of Watergate. Release of the tax returns should not be made conditional on winning the nomination, as Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has made it.” http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-hillarydecisions27nov27,0,3096734.story?coll=la-home-center> ; Politico <http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=155F8D92-3048-5C12-0038BDAE28B8AD5D> , 12/14/08; Editorial, NYT, 2/15/08 <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/opinion/15fri1.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=print> >

Hillary Clinton Won’t Release Her Earmark Requests, Says She’s Proud Of The Pork She’s Secured For New York. “Hillary Clinton, by contrast, often seems to operate by the maxim that silence is golden. When asked whether she would release a list of her earmarks, her spokesman dodged the question, while declaring that she is ‘proud of the investments in New York that she has secured.’ But for now, at least, not proud enough to let voters know what they are. This exercise in secrecy is part of a Clinton pattern that grows more worrisome all the time.” http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/chi-0316edit2mar16,0,3977339,print.story> >

15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE?

Clinton Claims Of 35 Years Of Experience Omit 15 Years At Rose Law Firm, Repeatedly Emphasize Mere One Year At Children’s Defense Fund. “She routinely tells voters that she’s “been working to bring positive change to people’s lives for 35 years.” She told a voter in New Hampshire: “I’ve spent so much of my life in the nonprofit sector.” Speaking in South Carolina, Bill Clinton said his wife “could have taken a job with a firm … Instead she went to work with Marian Wright Edelman at the Children’s Defense Fund.” The overall portrait is of a lifelong, selfless do-gooder. The whole story is more complicated — and less flattering. Clinton worked at the Children’s Defense Fund for less than a year, and that’s the only full-time job in the nonprofit sector she’s ever had. She also worked briefly as a law professor. Clinton spent the bulk of her career — 15 of those 35 years — at one of Arkansas’ most prestigious corporate law firms, where she represented big companies and served on corporate boards. Neither she nor her surrogates, however, ever mention that on the campaign trail. Her campaign Web site biography devotes six paragraphs to her pro bono legal work for the poor but sums up the bulk of her experience in one sentence: “She also continued her legal career as a partner in a law firm.” http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/26377.html> , 2/3/08>


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:18 AM
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11. Handy Guide to how trying to link Ayers to Obama could blow up the Clinton campaign
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:18 AM
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12. NY Mag: Falling Out of Love With Bill
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:18 AM
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13. Hillary's Healthcare Plan: Better Care for the Wealthy
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:20 AM
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14. Obama Moving In Right Campaign Finance Direction

Obama Moving In Right Campaign Finance Direction

April 10, 2008 Oliver Willis

He’s laying the groundwork to opt-out of the public finance system in the general election.This is so important, because swamping McCain could lead to a result where the needle isn’t just moved slightly in one direction but instead is turned to 11. It would be a sledgehammer to the Berlin wall of conservatism.

I do find it highly amusing the mock umbrage the cons are taking to this. Change your mind on campaign finance and you’re apparently a confidence man, but lie the nation into a doomed conflict and they want to put you up on Mount Rushmore.




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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:21 AM
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15. Lapel Pin Patriotism - Frant Luntz throws down on Hannity

Lapel Pin Patriotism

David Kurtz TPM 04.10.08

We've got your Frank Luntz - Sean Hannity throwdown over whether Barack Obama
is authentically "pro-American":

See video here




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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:22 AM
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16. Latest Barack Obama Pennsylvania TV spot - corruption and real life...Medicare drug bill

Latest Barack Obama Pennsylvania TV spot

The RBC Update: Corruption and real life 2008.04.10

The Medicare prescription drug coverage bill explicitly forbids
Medicare to negotiate for lower drug prices. The chair of the
House committee that wrote that law quit Congress to take a $2
million-a-year job lobbying for Big Pharma. Suddenly "reducing
lobbyist influence" isn't some vague wine-track goo-goo issue;
it's about Grandma's heart medicine.




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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:24 AM
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17. CLINTON'S RADIO SHOT AT OBAMA - Obama camp says Clinton "has misfired..."

CLINTON'S RADIO SHOT AT OBAMA

April 09, 2008 Domenico Montanaro NBC First Read

Clinton is going up on the radio with an ad to combat an Obama TV spot, in which he says he takes no money from oil companies,the Clinton campaign announced on a conference call with reporters.

We will update when we receive the script of the ad.

For context, in Obama's ad, he says he doesn't take money from oil companies. The Clinton campaign said that's technically true, but cited FactCheck.org's assessment of the ad as "a little too slick," because none of the candidates are allowed to take money directly from oil companies.

"It's illegal," a spokesman said on the call. The Clinton campaign repeated that Obama has taken money from employees of oil companies and that two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. (We reported on this here after this flap first began.) The Obama campaign responded then that Obama doesn't take money from oil company PACs or lobbyists.

…*** UPDATE 2 *** The Obama camp responds: "Just like her last tall tale about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia, Senator Clinton has misfired with her latest negative ad. The fact is, Barack Obama takes no money from Washington lobbyists or PACs while Senator Clinton has taken more than any Democrat or Republican in this race, and that includes oil companies. Obama has been a Senate leader in fighting for higher fuel efficiency standards, alternative fuels and for the repeal of tax breaks for oil companies. Until this year, Senator Clinton opposed higher fuel efficiency standards and in 2004 she supported a huge tax break for the oil industry. This just another example of the broken Washington politics that Barack Obama is running to change."
More at the link





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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:25 AM
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18. DeLong Drinks Sean Wilentz’s Milkshake -humor

Brad DeLong Drinks Sean Wilentz’s Milkshake

Oliver Willis April 10, 2008

Oliver Willis has this video to accompany the post, you really really should watch this video while reading, its too much, over the top.

In response to Wilentz’s nutty “Hillary should be winning” essay in Salon.

Sean Wilentz is a Yankees fan. I am a Red Sox fan. Perhaps Sean Wilentz could write that the American League championship should go to the team with the most hits instead of the most wins, which would have made the Yankees rather than the Red Sox the real champions last year. After all, isn’t the real point of baseball to hit the ball and get on base? That’s why it’s called baseball, and not run-ball or win-ball, right? I would not find that argument convincing. Wilentz’s winner-take-all gambit is a talking point, not an argument: “If my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bus” is rarely a persuasive line of reasoning. If the rules for winning delegates and the nomination had been different, the candidates would have run different campaigns and put their resources into different places and different proportions.




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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:35 AM
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19. About that "Winnowing" charge (Cuts of CA Delegate applicants)

About that "Winnowing" charge

by akogun Daily Kos Thu Apr 10, 2008

There is a lot of ventilating currently going on in the CA Blogosphere regarding the fact that the Obama Campaign has removed a lot of names from its list of prospective delegates. The "injurious" effects of this decision is perceived to be so great as to warrant an angry diary from a "trusted Progressive" who went so far as to retrogressively imply that other Progressives (especially those in PA) should be wary of the Obama Campaign.
...
However, if this is accurate, then Marcy Winograd's very public and irate hissy fit is absolutely incomprehensible. I had thought that the Campaign just cut people from the roster and the people so cut had to find out on their own. If you got this courtesy email from the Campaign, apologizing for the understandably difficult exercise, and you proceed to call on the PA Progressives Community to help you derail the candidacy you aspired to represent, well ..... I rest my case with regard to your reliability as a delegate.

Thanks so much for your excitement and interest in supporting Senator Obama in California.

There is extraordinary grassroots enthusiasm for Senator Obama in California. As a result, an overwhelming amount of Californians have applied to be a delegate but there are a limited amount of delegates who will be elected at the California District Conventions to attend the DNC Convention.

The list of delegates has been narrowed in order to ensure an orderly delegate election process at each California convention. The campaign continues to appreciate the contributions from all our supporters.


End of UPDATE

I will let the oddity of a "Trusted Progressive" getting so angry that she is willing to call on others to help derail the candidacy of the person she is supposed to be supporting speak for itself.

I will not comment on the incongruity of a candidate for a delegate selection process (which REQUIRES that you select your MOST TRUSTED and LOYAL supporters to represent you in a potentially contentious delegate poaching fight) asking to be trusted and be chosen to represent a Campaign, lashing out so viscerally at the Campaign he/she seeks to represent once it became clear that the Campaign has other preferences.

...However, reading Marcy's "winnowing" diary, and having read what has been happening on Calitics and elsewhere in California today has re-solidified my trust in the judgement of the people who run the Obama Campaign.

more at the link


More on that “Purge” from the San Jose Mercury News


Flooded with applicants - the list of candidates had to be pruned.

The San Jose Mercury News also quotes a $2,000 Clinton donor as outraged that he was purged from the Obama list.

Link to donations by Nicholas Lefevre See here

The Obama campaign was flooded by sign ups for delegates:

We've got an unwieldy amount of delegate candidates," said Don Morrison, spokesman for the Obama campaign in the 17th Congressional District. "There's just no way you're going to get through the lists on a Sunday afternoon."

In some districts, more than 90 people had signed up to run for as few as three delegate positions. In the 17th District, which includes most of Santa Cruz County as well as Monterey and San Benito counties, 26 people had signed up for two posts.





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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:36 AM
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20. Obama To Get Endorsements From Oregon's Ex-Governors

Obama To Get Endorsements From Oregon's Ex-Governors

By Ethan Lindsey Bend, OR April 10, 2008

Democratic Senator Barack Obama will receive two key political endorsements Thursday, as the battle for Oregon's primary voters heats up. Ethan Lindsey reports.

Governor Ted Kulongoski has already endorsed Hillary Clinton.

...And now the Illinois senator's campaign says he will receive high-profile endorsements from two popular former Oregon governors, John Kitzhaber and Barbara Roberts.

The Democratic presidential candidates both appeared in Oregon in recent weeks, and most observers expect them to return soon.

Even though the state's May primary is one of the last in the country, many voters cast their ballots early because Oregonians vote by mail.

...more at the link



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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:37 AM
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21. Deal Behind Sen. Klobuchar's Endorsement of Obama

Deal Behind Sen. Klobuchar's Endorsement of Obama

Mary Ann Akers | WaPo Blog. April 9, 2008

Been wondering what superdelegates are getting in return for their recent presidential endorsements? Well, in the case of Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), who hopped off the fence last week to endorse Barack Obama, she didn't get a thing.

But her 12-year-old daughter, Abigail, did.

Klobuchar says it wasn't exactly a quid-pro-quo but she did let it be known to Obama that Abigail would like to be the go-to babysitter for his two young daughters, Malia , 9, and Sasha, 6, if they wind up living in the White House.

During her endorsement conversation with him, Klobuchar dropped a not-so-subtle hint when Obama asked how her daughter was doing: Abigail was recently certified as a babysitter by the Red Cross and is "available on Saturday nights until 11 p.m." And thanks for asking.

…The would-be first babysitter became an Obama supporter when the Illinois senator came to Minnesota to campaign for her mother two years ago. Throughout the 2008 Democratic presidential primary race, the persuasive 7th grader has been "very vocal" about her presidential preference even as her mother tried to remain neutral for as long as she could, according to Klobuchar.

…more at the link




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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:38 AM
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22. Pinochle Politics Hillary's life in PA, and Pinochle diversion
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:40 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted

Pinochle Politics

By GAIL COLLINS WaPo April 10, 2008

“... I was raised on pinochle and the American Dream.”

This is Hillary Clinton in a TV ad running in Pennsylvania in which she reminisces about spending childhood vacations in Scranton.
Once again, a campaign in which we thought we had heard every possible piece of information delivers a little surprise.

Really, it’s hard to count the questions this line raises. Is pinochle particularly popular in Pennsylvania? Did Mark Penn do a poll on this? Did something inspiring happen at the pinochle table that caused Clinton to make this particular connection? (“Young Hillary, if you play your cards right, someday you could become president of the United States.”)

One purpose of the ad is to point out that although the Clinton family may be raking in beaucoup bucks now, Hillary’s roots were humble. Her Pennsylvanian grandfather worked in a lace factory.
The Rodham vacation house had no heat or indoor shower, and according to Carl Bernstein’s biography,
as Hillary grew up she began to lose enthusiasm for those long summers on Lake Winola.

…Anyway, this pinochle diversion couldn’t have come at a better time. Things have been getting a little slow on the campaign trail. Setting aside six weeks of preparation for the Pennsylvania primary turns out to have been a little excessive.
And the candidates are finding it hard to come up with exciting new things to complain about. The Democrats are still arguing about superdelegates, and the McCain camp is demanding that Barack Obama apologize for a remark made by one of his supporters, Senator John Rockefeller of West Virginia.

…Given the number of crises we’ve had along these lines, it might be a good idea for all three candidates to disavow in advance anything stupid a supporter, adviser, staffer or radio talk-show host says for the rest of this year. We could give the blanket disavowal a fancy name, like “Article 300.” Then the next time McCain discovers that one of his backers has, say, called for a crusade against Lutherans, he could just invoke Article 300 and we could all move on.

…more at the link


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:39 AM
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23. The Lives of Others - Obama
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:39 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted

The Lives of Others

By Tracy Russo Rural votes

There is something unexplainable about the culture of celebrity - the Hollywood-like obsession with knowing the tiniest details about the lives of others. Is it because we secretly hope to see the famous fail? Or because we want to know they are, after all, just human, like us? Or is it part of the American aspirational complex - knowing how they climbed that rocky road to the top so we can do the same?



…Today, Time offers an in-depth profile of Barack Obama’s mother that is wonderfully detailed and thoughtful. You should go read the whole thing, but this was one of my favorite passages:

In Indonesia, Ann joked to friends that her son seemed interested only in basketball. “She despaired of him ever having a social conscience,” remembers Richard Patten, a colleague. After her divorce, Ann started using the more modern spelling of her name, Sutoro. She took a big job as the program officer for women and employment at the Ford Foundation, and she spoke up forcefully at staff meetings. Unlike many other expats, she had spent a lot of time with villagers, learning their priorities and problems, with a special focus on women’s work. “She was influenced by hanging out in the Javanese marketplace,” Zurbuchen says, “where she would see women with heavy baskets on their backs who got up at 3 in the morning to walk to the market and sell their produce.” Ann thought the Ford Foundation should get closer to the people and further from the government,
just as she had.

Her home became a gathering spot for the powerful and the marginalized: politicians, filmmakers, musicians and labor organizers. “She had, compared with other foundation colleagues, a much more eclectic circle,” Zurbuchen says. “She brought unlikely conversation partners together.”
Obama’s mother cared deeply about helping poor women, and she had two biracial children. But neither of them remembers her talking about sexism or racism. “She spoke mostly in positive terms: what we are trying to do and what we can do,” says Soetoro-Ng, who is now a history teacher at a girls’ high school in Honolulu. “She wasn’t ideological,” notes Obama. “I inherited that, I think, from her. She was suspicious of cant.” He remembers her joking that she wanted to get paid as much as a man, but it didn’t mean she would stop shaving her legs.

After reading it, tell us, what do you think? Is this kind of story something you appreciate? How much does a politician’s personal history matter to you?
…more at the link



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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:08 AM
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24. Oh My. Mark Penn's Company Worked with Bush/Cheney! (along with Former Clinton appointee Quinn)
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:43 AM
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25. Dang You, Colin Powell
Dang You, Colin Powell
Oliver Willis. Published April 10, 2008 in News.

If you had just shown some cojones and resigned as Sec. of State in the run-up to Iraq you would be an even better advocate for Obama right now.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/04/10/dang-you-colin-powell/
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:48 AM
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26. TIME Mag. Cover Story: The Story of Barack Obama's Mother
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:50 AM
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27. Oliver Willis' harsh words for Larry Johnson

Larry Johnson Is A Douchebag

Oliver Willis April 11, 2008

And Glenn Reynolds loves him for it (like a moth to a flame, brothers in arms).
This is what a small yet vocal sector of the liberal blogosphere has turned into. Nice.

(Reynolds loves Johnson's right winger like efforts to smear Obama's pastor.Its pretty sick)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:05 AM
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28. Obama is quietly picking up more delegates
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 02:08 AM by grantcart
People are aware that Obama picked up two delegates as a result of TVOR's work in Mississippi.

Bloggers at Demcomwatch are finding similar pick ups in other states

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/ultimate-delegate-tracker.html

Under the radar Obama continues to pick up more pledged delegates here and there as numbers in close contests are examined and the splits are reexamined. Here are some of the comments offered by bloggers

1)Examination of the caucuses in Idaho are leading some to think that she will lose viability and Obama will end up with all 18 Idaho delegates (currently 15-3 Obama)


amot said "As you know I think no one spotted so far that at Idaho state convention Clinton won't be viable!"

I just looked at the numbers and it appears to me Clinton is not viable in either CD as well as state wide, so Obama should get all 18 pledged delegates. Is this correct, amot?


2) Louisiana Congressional District 2
Guys, you owe me a big one! I have just proved wrong split of LA 2. It goes 76,5% Obama = 4/1 delegates. had to calculated it precint by precinct :)
April 10, 2008 6:37 PM


3) Colorado Obama picks up 3 more delegates

Final CO update!
I was able to find CO delegates numbers county-by-county, CD-by-CD and total:
http://www.demnotes.com/wp-content/DelegateCalcs08dft3.pdf
According to that source CD5 has 490 congressional district delegates. We have been able to track 457 of them:
El Paso - Obama 271, Clinton 119
Park - Obama 7, Clinton 3
Teller - Obama 12, Clinton 7
Fremont - Obama 20, Clinton 18
I was not able to find the results in Chaffee and Lake, but I think those are unsignificant and predictable - Chaffee should like 16:8 Obama and Lake should go 7:2 or 6:3 Obama. That gives Obama total of 332 or 333 delegates out of 490. CD5 goes 3:1 Obama since he gets over 67% of the vote and he needs only 62,5% to secure the split!






The result is that Obama is now only 386 delegates away from nomination

His lead over Hillary is now 138 delegates


He is only 211 Pledged delegates away from achieving 50% of the pledged delegates
(a number of SDs have said they will endorse the one to get 50%)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:22 AM
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29. South Bend Mayor Stephen Luecke endorses Obama
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/10/politics/uwire/main4007932.shtml

Obama Fuels Debate, Gives Speech To Well-wishers

llinois Senator and Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama told supporters Wednesday at Washington High School in South Bend that changing parties in the White House will not suffice, outlined his plan for drastic alterations and gained an endorsement along the way.

South Bend Mayor Stephen Luecke, preceding Obama, endorsed the Senator to raucous approval from Obama supporters.

"Let's not hold the surprise," he said.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:29 AM
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30. Obama refuses to pay 'street money' in PA - may hurt him
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-streetmoney11apr11,1,6250467.story?page=1
Barack Obama may lose support in Philadelphia over 'street money'





Fourteen months into a campaign that has the feel of a movement, Sen. Barack Obama has collided with the gritty political traditions of Philadelphia, where ward bosses love their candidates, but also expect them to pay up.

The dispute centers on the dispensing of "street money," a long-standing Philadelphia ritual in which candidates deliver cash to the city's Democratic operatives in return for getting out the vote.


Flush with payments from well-funded campaigns, the ward leaders and Democratic Party bosses typically spread out the cash in the days before the election, handing $10, $20 and $50 bills to the foot soldiers and loyalists who make up the party's workforce.

It is all legal -- but Obama's people are telling the local bosses he won't pay.

That sets up a culture clash, pitting a candidate who promises to transform American politics against the realities of a local political system important to his presidential hopes. Pennsylvania holds its primary April 22.

Obama's posture confounds neighborhood political leaders sympathetic to his cause. They caution that if the senator from Illinois withholds money that gubernatorial, mayoral and presidential candidates have willingly paid out for decades, there could be defections to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York. And the Clinton campaign, in contrast, will oblige in forking over the money, these ward leaders predict.

Campbell said she could not in good conscience ask people to work for Obama for free.

"I'm not going to do that," said Campbell, who heads a coalition of black ward leaders. "There are a lot of poor people here."

Paulmier said that of his ward's 48 committee people, the vast majority supported Obama. Though he doesn't expect a wholesale exodus to the Clinton campaign if no street money is paid, a handful of those key people might bolt, he said.

"If word gets out that the Clinton campaign is going to make . . . more support available to committee people, maybe five of the 48 might defect," he said.

With a week and a half left before the election, political leaders hope that Obama will relent.

Garry Williams, a ward leader based in north-central Philadelphia, said that he had not heard directly that the Obama campaign was withholding money. But he said payment would be needed. Workers who are in the field for Obama on April 22 will put in days stretching from 12 to 16 hours, he said.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:59 AM
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31. CNN: Clinton laughs off $ 800,000 payment to Bill for Columbia free trade speech
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:34 AM
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35. folks the video is so much worse than the written story
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:40 AM
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36. this is going to be the equivalent to the Dean Scream
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:05 PM
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39. WOW.... that was the first time I saw it.
That was a really, really bad reaction. Textbook example of "nervous laughter."
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:20 AM
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32. Bill Clinton reopens Bosnia story by lying about it
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/bill-clinton-re.html

Bill Clinton Retells Hillary's 1996 Bosnia Story

Clinton then spent and hour going over a series of subjects that argued why Hillary would be the best choice for the Democratic Party. While the majority of his speech was heavy on policy and ideas, Clinton did find occasion to wander off topic a few times.

One such subject that caused the former president to meander was his wife's disputed account of her trip to Bosnia as first lady. It is a subject that has gotten plenty of media attention, but has been kept out of President's Clinton's speeches. Today, as Clinton explained Hillary's dedication to taking care of U.S. veterans, he told the crowd how amused the whole controversy made him.

"A lot of the way this whole campaign has been covered has amused me," he said. "But there was a lot of fulminating because Hillary, one time late at night when she was exhausted, misstated and immediately apologized for it, what happened to her in Bosnia in 1995. Did y'all see all that. Oh, they blew it up

Sen. Clinton did not apologize, like Mr. Clinton asserted, she simply indicated that she mispoke when describing the Bosnia incident.

While the former president may have been amused by the whole incident, his telling of the course of events wasn't quite accurate. Hillary Clinton actually made the comments numerous times, including at an event in Iowa on Dec. 29, amd an event on Feb. 29 and one time -- bright and early in the morning -- on March 17.

Sen. Clinton wasn't as quick with her apology as President Clinton may remember either. In fact, it took a week for her to eventually correct herself, first talking to the Philadelphia Inquirer editorial board on March 24 and again apologizing the next
day in Greensboro, N.C.



anyone with a free thread feel free to use it

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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:57 AM
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33. Kicked
:kick:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:23 AM
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34. **READERS - please vote in this Time Poll for 100 Most Influencial**
The 100 Most Influencial Time Poll is on right now. Barack Obama is #72, Hillary Clinton is #76 and some Japanese Pop Star named Rain is #1.....do you see anything wrong with this picture?!?! All you have to do is follow this link and Barack Obama is the first person you can vote for. Make sure you vote 100 (being the most influencial) and you can vote as many times as you want!!
Plus, the new issue of Time has a cover story about Barack Obama and his mother. It is a really beautiful article!!

Here is the link for the poll.....Please vote!!!
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/0,28757,1725112,00.html





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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:01 AM
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37. Obama campaign reinstates blocked would-be California delegates
Obama campaign reinstates blocked would-be California delegates
By Kevin Yamamura - kyamamura@sacbee.com

Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, April 11, 2008



Sen. Barack Obama late Thursday reinstated more than 800 California Democrats who wanted to become his delegates at the national convention after blocking them from contention earlier this week.

Obama's initial purge angered Democrats around the state who volunteered on his behalf and planned to compete Sunday in local caucus meetings for his 107 California delegate spots in Denver.

They suggested the removal of so many grass-roots supporters ran counter to his reputation for appealing to those outside the political establishment. Many complained Thursday to his national headquarters in Illinois.

"There has been an extraordinary outpouring of grass-roots support for Senator Obama," wrote Obama campaign manager David Plouffe in an e-mail Thursday night to delegate applicants.

"In recognition of this tremendous enthusiasm, our campaign has asked the California Democratic Party to allow all persons who have filed to be a district delegate candidate for Senator Obama at the Democratic National Convention to participate in the caucuses this Sunday, April 13, 2008," Plouffe added.

more...

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/853824.html
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:21 PM
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38. McCain, Obama & the Pollsters
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:42 PM
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40. New Zogby poll in PA: Obama closing gap to 4 pts.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:58 PM
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42. gallup
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:04 PM
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41. Kick! n/t
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