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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:06 AM
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So the oil companies have had no influence with politicians the
last 100 years? Thanks Bill, that's good to know!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:12 AM
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1. That has to be a distortion.
He wouldn't say that. That's just ridiculous.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:13 AM
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2. HRC and the MsM are trying to make the argument that if rich people contribute to a campaign then...
...it's not grassroots.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:27 AM
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13. They are depending on their audience being ...
well nevermind. No point.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:28 AM
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14. I know what your talking about, I think that's a huge demographic that shapes US politics
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:14 AM
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3. It's on tape. Along with a racist slam about stealing cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7Gq_8YxtE

progetto (12 posts) found the tape
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:16 AM
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5. Wow
So what do you call the Obama camp staging the back drop for his wife the other day. I need more white people, ring a bell!
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:20 AM
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6. Where da hell do you hail from ?!!!
Staging the backdrop is done by all campaigns. Get a clue.
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:24 AM
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7. So you are saying
They stage them by race?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:26 AM
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11. Yes, all campaigns stage their background audiences so that it looks like they have a diverse
range of racial support.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:29 AM
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16. Age, race... even clothing... are you new to politics?
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:21 AM
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21. No I am not
Let me say this, Hillary will win by a large margain in a couple of weeks. You may think I am new. Good one.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:28 AM
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24. Welcome to DU on your first day here.
Enjoy your stay!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:24 AM
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8. I know it must hurt you so to see so many self-hating White people
but try to control yourself.
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:25 AM
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10. Hum
I see Obama always pulling the race card all the time. This is getting old. I just disagree with your position.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:28 AM
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15. Hah... I love how he just casually forgets to mention "Washington Lobbyists"
:rofl:

He treats his audience like frickin rubes...
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:30 AM
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17. Let us talk about lobbyist
If Obama will release his State Senate records we could find out if he is as clean as he says he is!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:32 AM
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19. Maybe he'll do it after she releases her earmarks.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 10:32 AM by redqueen
:hi:
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:27 AM
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23. Good Try
would have released them when her 11,000 document were released.

Look what Obama said on meet the press: Nov 11, 2007. Now spinn this redqueen.

You talked about Senator Clinton having records released from the Clinton Library regarding her experience as first lady, and yet when you were asked about, “What about eight years in the state senate of Illinois,” you said, “I don’t know.” Where, where are the—where are your records?

SEN. OBAMA: Tim, we did not keep those records. I...

MR. RUSSERT: Are they gone?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, let’s be clear. In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois. The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule. I didn’t have a schedule. I was a state senator. I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library. I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues. So...

MR. RUSSERT: But your meetings with lobbyists and so forth, there’s no record of that?

SEN. OBAMA: I did not have a scheduler, but, as I said, every document related to my interactions with government is available right now. And, as I said, news outlets have already looked at them.

MR. RUSSERT: Is your schedule available anywhere? Are—the records exist?

SEN. OBAMA: I—Tim, I kept my own schedule. I didn’t have a scheduler.

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Durbin, your colleague, publishes his schedule each day. Would you do that?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.

Where are his records.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:29 AM
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25. You mean where is his schedule.
:shrug:

Dunno... and I would be curious to see it too. But the thing is... I understand these are politicians, and they do politician things (like avoid disclosing things). At this point I have the predisposition to give him *more* benefit of the doubt about these things than I do her. Do you know why?

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:27 PM
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27. ok folks heres a contest for us
which tombstoned freeper is this?
1st prize an obama presidency
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:15 AM
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4. I do not think that is what Bill was saying!
I do not agree with your position. He was talking about Obama's twisted ad.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:25 AM
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9. Not quite
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:27 AM
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12. Good one, sorry you feel that way.
Truth hurst!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:31 PM
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29. Yes truth hursts very very badly
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:30 PM
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28. hillarys republican guard
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:30 PM by swampg8r
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:31 AM
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18. He is dissembling. Or is it disassembling? (that means not tell the truth)
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 10:31 AM by redqueen
He uses the strawman of "companies giving money" to avoid talking about lobbyists.

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:14 AM
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20. I like the word "disassembling" as in trying to disassemble his record
and its connection to Hillary's!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:23 AM
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22. I just like referring to that Bushism.
:D
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:24 PM
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26. Arbusto oil, Chevron. The oil money that Reagan took power with removing Carter's solar panels. Nah
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:25 PM by cooolandrew
Nah it couldn't be oil.
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