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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:18 PM
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I'm watching CNN pundits talk about Obama's statements my question is
Where's the beef. whats all the hoopla.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:20 PM
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1. He said some people who are facing economic hardship are bitter...
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 06:21 PM by Connie_Corleone
BECAUSE the government hasn't followed thru on their promises to them.

For some reason, that makes Obama an elitist.

Of course there was a lot more he said that I just posted in my own thread, but context doesn't matter apparently.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:20 PM
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2. It's the media desperate effort to keep this a horse race.
There's nothing to this.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:28 PM
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6. The media forced Obama make a bigoted statement?
Obama is now even more unlikely to win a general election.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:32 PM
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9. Read the whole passage -- assuming you do read, of course.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:06 PM
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17. jackson_dem reads a lot
though apparently never for comprehension.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:05 PM
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16. Why not look up the word "bigot" in any reputable dictionary?
And then get back to us with your thoughts.

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:10 PM
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20. He doesn't need to look it up in the dictionary....
just needs to look in the mirror.
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:50 PM
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26. Zing!!!!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:33 PM
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24. 80% disapproval
Are people angry/bitter, because it seems those in Washington are not listening?


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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:21 PM
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3. In the words of Don Henley....
I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick em when they're up
Kick em when they're down
Kick em when they're up
Kick em when they're down
Kick em when they're up
Kick em when they're down
Kick em when they're up
Kick em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
Its interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You dont really need to find out whats going on
You dont really want to know just how far its gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick em when they're up
Kick em when they're down
Kick em when they're up
Kick em when they're down

Kick em when they're up
Kick em when they're down
Kick em when they're stiff
Kick em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When its said and done we have'nt told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:23 PM
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4. Just got home. What's the flap du jour? nt
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:28 PM
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5. It's the bigotry. Hill said it best: PA doesn't need a president that looks down on them
Nor does small town America in general. I wonder if Obama always held these views or learned them from his mentor/pastor?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:30 PM
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7. yeah, the image of international jetset big city harvard lawyer talkin bout small towns doesnt work.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:32 PM
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8. Exactly, yet Obamites think he can turn this into a positive!
:rofl:

This isn't his pastor. He can't, with the aid of the msm, disassociate himself from it so easily without anyone asking the hard questions in the media. This came out his mouth. To make it worse he said it in front of a bunch of millionaires.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:57 PM
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12. and what works
The $109 million Clintons? LOL
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:22 PM
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32. Lets talk about people jet setting, one of Clinton's donors
It amazes me that Clinton supporters can decipher every word that Obama says, but you think everything that Hillary says is the Golden Rule. I am sick of the Hillary America, you can't and won't comprehend anything.
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lander Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:33 PM
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10. Jackson, Texas Hill --
You two crack me up. Do us all a favor and mosey back on over to FReeperville, wont'cha?
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:35 PM
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11. beef = snobish Obama!
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:59 PM
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13. Here you go, sound-biter
This was just added to the Huffington Post article that started this mess:

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- to close tax loopholes, you know, roll back the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-s...

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:01 PM
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14. They're trying to make something out of nothing. Ignore the fools. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:03 PM
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15. yeah--like the bookbag and tears ect ect
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:06 PM
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18. I thought he was a scary black man.
Hard to keep up, some days.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:11 PM
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21. Let me try to sum it up for you based on many helpful postings here.
He's a scary black man, a member of a church that hates America, a secret follower of Islam, unelectable even though he's dominating the primary season against a popular former first lady with better name recognition than Ronald McDonald, an empty suit who makes good speeches... shit, I ran out. Don't worry though, any minute now a Clinton supporter will be along to explain all this in excruciating detail using the same worn-out talking points.

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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:25 PM
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33. Like Snipergate Bosnia
Clinton Library Donor List
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Lou Queb Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:09 PM
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19. What's with CNN, are they worth watching at all ?
I'd need an objective answer guys.
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Moderate-Democrate Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:28 PM
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22. I guess
Not if they are not pro Obama on a given day!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:30 PM
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23. Hillary just compared him to "other good democrats, perceived as elitist, who could not win"
Thanks, Hill. Keep kicking the WHOLE party, while you're at it. Subtle reference to Kerry, I imagine.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:52 PM
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27. I think she was referring to both Kerry and Gore in one fell swoop. She
is working really, really hard to prove her Republican credentials.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:53 PM
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28. Gads.. how could I have missed the Gore implication?! Now I'm TOTALLY PO'd !!
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:58 PM
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31. It was almost assuredly a jab at Gore and Kerry. n/t
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:35 PM
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25. No beef. Just Blackberries.
I've heard more from these pundits about what's coming through on their blackberries then any honest assessment of the issues. These people are childish fools.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:54 PM
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29. sense when does small town yokels control the democrat party? nt.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:56 PM
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30. What you are watching are the Elitists attempting to determine
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:58 PM by FrenchieCat
what is important to us.

They are part of the problem, as they promote Wedge politics and the politics of distraction, and they are indeed our masters, it appears.

Perhaps Pennsylvania will prove them wrong.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:27 PM
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34. Has any one heard Lou Dobbs take on this. He is always harping on the middle class squeeze.
That is one CNN guy that has to agree with Obama.
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