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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:06 PM
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Hell yes, I'm bitter. Obama is right on the money.
Hell yes, I am bitter

I live in an urban area (Denver)

I've been to many rural areas here in Colorado, and can see there's nothing out there.

I have been in this economy since my wife and I have been married. It has been over 7 years now. This is my story:

I'm an UNIX administrator, and I'm also deaf - which makes it extremely tough to find jobs. I work, and have been for the last 7 years, with a family company. If it wasn't for Dad, I'd be out of a job.

My wife also works, and she has often told me she wants to start a family, and can't really afford to cut down much on our income (61K together since around 2004, two person)

The way our IT venture is slowing down so much, barely any work for us to fix computers. So we're taking on a new business that has been slow in growing, and could get new monies if it wasn't for people losing their jobs, but it's paying the bills right now.

I am also on SSDI, which barely helps thanks to Chimp's idea of COLA to being around 2% raises, when it needs to be much more, like 40-50% annual COLA raises.

I owe a lot of money in taxes. Chimp has not helped at all, and my CPA tells me that my "$1200" stimulus check will reduce what I owe to IRS this year. I have been on a payment plan for 2 years. We are still paying down our debts and in 6 months, our $355/month car loan to our Honda Accord will end, and we will use the money to really pay it down for awhile.

I have had no honeymoon since we got married, because we couldn't afford to.

Wife works, and she really does not want to work.

So hell yes, I am a purple state ready to go fuckin' blue - Colorado is losing jobs like crazy and being offshored to other states for cheap wages. Hello?

And hell yes, I'm bitter.

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:11 PM
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1. Add Another Bitter Person to Your List.
Hang in There. :hug:
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:12 PM
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2. Yes, many Americans are bitter
and they want to vote for a candidate who understands their anger and frustration.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:20 PM
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3. So, while I'm not a fan of either Clinton or Obama
I have to give this one to Obama. How can Clinton (and apparently McCain) not think we're bitter and angry? Look at what's happening, the road rage instances, the rudeness and lack of consideration for others - members of the public are taking their frustrations and fears out on each other because they can't take them out on their employers or elected officials.

Maybe, like in the movie "Network", the Obama campaign needs to organize and a day and time for us all to go outside and scream "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" Maybe our voices would be heard then.

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:29 PM
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4. Wonderful to see you - must remember to thank oldtimedfler.
My Tibet stickers came today!
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:33 PM
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5. Apparently your right to be bitter has been revoked.
We are supposed to continue to bend over and take it with a smile because we don't make the rules.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:54 PM
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:59 PM
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8. Adding you to my ignore list, durrrty libby
There are no other words that need to be said towards your extremely offensive post.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:02 PM
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:28 PM
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15. The OP is offensive 24/7.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:59 PM
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9. fucktard much?
.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:25 PM
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14. Que Sera Sera
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:01 PM
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:31 PM
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16. I get it now. The Followers of the Cardboard Messiah think he will save them
It's all about them and their inane cult

WooHoo break out the Nikes
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:32 PM
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:00 PM
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37. Waa Waaa your attitude is killing you and BO will not help
:rofl:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:34 PM
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18. Just looking at them when they hold a rally says it all
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:51 PM
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34. Moar like the jlake fanclub, amirite? nt
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:02 PM
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39. Yep they are special
:dunce: very special :hangover: :nuke:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:17 PM
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47. Must be painful to watch a bunch of people who are genuinely enthusiastic
Jealous much?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:37 PM
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19. why don't you look in a damn mirror?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:39 PM
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22. what mirror
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:40 PM
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23. you have the gall to say that about hawkeye...
while saying 'rude nasty pig' is putting it mildly?
do you realize who a huge hypocrite you're being?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:42 PM
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25. gall for what? WTF are you trying to say, Elrond?
You really got to stop beating around the bush. Either that or speak a language I'm familiar with.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:44 PM
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27. sigh.
you are saying hawkeye has a nasty attitude towards people.
you are then saying that 'disgusting personal attack' is putting it mildly, which means you believe that 'even more disgusting personal attack' would be appropriate.
how on earth do you get off saying he has a nasty attitude when in the same breath you spout a nasty personal insult towards him?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:47 PM
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31. Elrond, are you feeling alright tonight?
I think you need to go back and re-read who said what, who agreed with that, and then start over again and hope to get it right next time. Just trying to help...
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:48 PM
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32. let me see...durrtylibby called hawkeye...
a rude and nasty pig.
you said that 'was an understatement.'
what am i missing here?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:50 PM
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33. And?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:52 PM
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35. and...?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:55 PM
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36. "and" as in "What's your point?
:wtf:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:19 PM
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48. We understand perfectly well
It's 100% acceptable and legitimate for you folks to sling mud and call Obama supporters all sorts of nasty names.

But then you'll turn around and demand that we treat you with the utmost of respect.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:06 PM
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:15 PM
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45. see, that's a personal attack...which is against du rules...
which is why your orgininal nasty post was deleted.
my point is this: you insult him while complaining about his nasty attitude towards others.
it's called hypocrisy, look it up.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:38 PM
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20. YOUR attitude towards others sucks big time.
like i said to mtnsnake, why don't you try looking in a mirror.
how the hell do you get off calling someone a rude nasty pig then complaining about how their 'attitude towards others sucks'?
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK CALLING HIM A RUDE NASTY PIG IS? POLITE??
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:41 PM
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24. Elrond, you shouldn't be running around lying about people who tell the cold hard truth
It's very unbecoming of you.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:42 PM
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26. Excuse me? The cold hard truth?
Calling someone a rude and nasty pig is not the 'cold hard truth' it's an INSULT...and judging by the fact that it was deleted by the mods, it's against DU rules.
But since you insist on lowering the bar that far into the gutter, go ahead.
Your attempts at sitting on a high horse while flinging shit bombs is comical.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:44 PM
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28. Don't blame me because your pal is rude & nasty and you idolize him for being that
Why do you idolize nasty people so much, Elrond?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:46 PM
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30. I really hope that this is just incredibly nasty sarcasm on your part...
because if you truly believe the crap you're spouting, i feel sorry for you.
I don't idolize him, I don't agree with a lot of the stuff he posts, but he still doesn't deserve to be called a rude and nasty pig. And since you've decided to not just justify that crap, but continue it, then I will stick up for him.
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Elisabethveron77 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:56 PM
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7. Even if you are bitter, many Americans will be turned off by his comments
Even if 30% of Americans are not bitter, those 30% will now view Obama in a worse light. McCain favors from Obama's not well-thought comments.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:01 PM
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10. No they will not. After today they will admire that finally someone is saying that we are PISSED.
No who favors here is Obama who favors from Clinton's and McCain's badly thought replies.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:04 PM
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13. Many people are in similir situations or far worse sadly.
8 years of fraking Bush thanks to a fraked up election preceded by Clinton scandal have cost us in the long run as jobs are being shipped overseas faster then we can say "WHAT THE FRAK?!"

I hope yall get in a better economic situation soon.

And I look forward to Colorado going blue. I think with Obama it can finally happen!

GOBAMA!!

BTW GO UNIX!! Unix and Linux RULE!!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:39 PM
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21. H1 Visas desimated Kansas City tech market, Dallas Fort Worth is off the charts cause H1's have to..
...go home and congress hasn't lifted the limit above 65000
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:45 PM
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29. My family in Michigan are some bitter motherf*ers...
And yes, I'm bitter that they're bitter and struggling so much.

My uncle's fiancee actually had to move to Florida to find work. Splitting up families is BS and makes me bitter as hell!

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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:00 PM
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38. I'm mad as hell and I aint gonna take it anymore...
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 11:02 PM by Alii
Yep, even CNN got it totally right.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117454

C'mon Pennsylvanians, there's still over a week to go to make a wiser selection. Move the polls in Obama's direction.

It is time to be rid of the politics of old. It is time for CHANGE.
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airduster Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:03 PM
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40. The question is, do you cling to religion or guns?
That's one of Obama's comments that his supporters are conveniently ignoring.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:05 PM
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41. Neither.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:07 PM
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43. They are both stupid and his Followers are fools
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:12 PM
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44. And you're agreeing with a tombstoned troll.
Say hi to him back at the tree fort. :rofl:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:22 PM
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49. Nah, still a person I do feel sorry for you though
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:24 PM
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51. "Trolls Are People Too"
:rofl:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:30 PM
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53. They are.... and even sad little you "are people too"
night..night
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:31 PM
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54. You like trolls, do you?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:57 AM
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57. but the troll did make a valid point
the Obama supporters are focusing on the "bitter" part of this -

it's the comments about God, guns, and hating people who are different that are going to hurt him in the polls.

No matter how you look at it, this wasn't a smart thing to say.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:17 PM
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46. lol, only six posts and ts'ed already...
way to go, mods! :hi:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:23 PM
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50. I bet that made your entire month. WooHoo
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:25 PM
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52. what on earth is your problem?
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:15 PM
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58. Cling? You mean "turn to"
Is there something about this that rings untrue?
Pay attention for a change.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:43 PM
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55. One additional thing - I have been keeping sort of a diary in the Cancer
Support group, and talking about my father. You see that I am really truly bitter. If you want to read it, you know where that forum is.

Hawkeye-X
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:43 AM
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56. Hear, f******** hear!!!!!!!!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:18 PM
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59. OBAMA'S RESPONSE TO THIS LAME BIT OF CAMPAIGN THEATER
how can you watch this and not know you're seeing the next president of the United States?

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