Hillary elevates Grover Norquist. Norquist. What is wrong with her?

[cali]

Is there anyone on the wingnut right she won't suck up to if she thinks it can benefit her? Sending out emails of Norquist critizing Obama and emails quoting Ed Fucking Rollins? What the hell is she thinking? Scaife, Drudge, Murdoch. No one on the far right is too loathsome for Hillary. I find her using Norquist who is absolutely brutal to the poor and working classes, and Rollins, disgusting. Beyond the pale. Even for Hillary. She demonstrates yet again, that she'll do anything no matter how loathsome.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/11/clinton-mccain-respond-to_n_96318.html

[tekisui]

1. One word:

:puke:

[cali]

5. I'm not sure why this particular incident is one I find so repugnant

it's not like she hasn't been pulling disgusting shit like this for months. let's just say that Grover Norquist is someone I detest and I can't believe she'd do this.

[tekisui]

7. She is sleeping with the enemy.

[tekisui]

2. Watch Hillary's supporters come and defend it.....

They think Fox News is the fair and balanced place now, remember.

[cali]

8. no they won't

they'll avoid this unpleasant fact or they'll lie their asses off and say it didn't happen and that we're smearing St Hillary

[Inuca]

3. I saw this on HuffPo

and posted about it in one of the gazillions threads around here. It's incredibly low, bizarre, and just plain stupid.

[lapfog_1]

4. I keep repeating...

Hillary Clinton is NOT a Democrat.

She is a Lieberman Independent.

Her goal currently is not so much to win the nomination or the Presidency, but to try to stop Obama from winning. She will do anything to achieve that goal. Anything.

[cali]

6. I've always defended her from that charge

but that's hard to do in this circumstance.

[goclark]

15. cali I can't defend her this time either

I can't believe I'm saying this but she does appear more and more like Trader Joe. :cry:

Why is she doing this. :crazy:

[cali]

16. Desperation?

Ethical deficit? Who knows? It is despicable- whatever the reason. There's no possible excuse for this.

[goclark]

17. For some reason I am reminded of the movie

Manchurian Candidate. :scared:

[formercia]

9. Grover Norqist is scum.

That treasonous bastard needs some severe due process.

[cali]

12. Hillary agrees with him to the point

that she sends out emails quoting him. What a tool she is.

[formercia]

13. Hillary is a Trojan Horse

You can quote me on it.

[KittyWampus]

10. who is Rollins? From context I gather a wingnut.

[cali]

14. Here you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Rollins

[tularetom]

11. I liked the clintons a lot better when they ran as outsiders and meant it

As it turns out they ran in order to become insiders. There is nothing either of these losers wants more than acceptance by the beltway elites. And they perceive Norquist is one of the elite.

I've felt for years that bill clinton's groveling to daddy bush was unseemly. Now hillary is doing it too.

I'm getting more bitter by the minute just typing this.

[PATRICK]

18. I am more concerned

that this is not "stooping" at all, but merely the level plane of privileged opinion and policy makers whose stripes though different, comprise one startling, revealing prison suit. You will hear seemingly strong arguments against what Murdoch or Norquist or others stand for in that respectfully competitive world up there. When you feel outrage at the mutual aid and alliances conducted by Neville Chamberlain Dems do you not hear instead the same tone, the same ring as during the theatric critiques?

We misunderstand Chamberlain on the same level as we misunderstand the attitudes and actions of many leadership Dems. He was not just "weak" or "pragmatic"(about the unlikelihood of military action to pre-empt Hitler), he and a large circle of recovering, prosperous leaders were fairly sympathetic to a large portion of Nazi policies and willing to cast a bland/blind eye upon horrendous abuses. Whether weak critique or friendly cooperation with these monsters, these types of leaders dismay down to core, those who hope for REAL opposition to lawless evil, and hear incredible smiling schmoozing the very next day. You can hear this one constant in statements one cannot match to the brutality of reality and the claims of leadership of a free and decent majority.

We know how bad these times are, how sharp the test. The leadership has fallen to the edge of this sword as if expecting to scoop up daisies or candy. It stands revealed in voice and action. It is already covered with blood, tragedy and irresponsible surrender. The words mean nothing. The smiling, friendship sealed associations tell all even as they dramatize their differences and end up- always- delivering us up to the very worst. The DLC Chamberlain types pooh pooh all immoderate concerns and "chastise" the RW- without teeth. The RW despises and uses and enjoys the empowerment given by these foolish friendlies. It is the fabled "honor among power elites".

[cali]

19. Well said, Patrick. n/t

[Texas Hill Country]

20. she is not supporting them, she is sending around comments from MAINSTREAM america...

The thing that I dont think many of you get is the fact that FOX is pretty much representative of mainstream America... you can tell from the ratings...


of the top ten cable news shows Fox takes slots 1 to 5, Lou Dobbs is #6, Larry King #7, Situation Room #7, Anderson #8, Tweety #9, Dan Abrams #10.

Bill O'Reilly gets 2.6 million viewers

Tweety gets like 700,000 (dont remember the exact number to be honest, but it was less than 800k)



all this is of course dwarfed by the networks, but still...


They may suck, I may hate them, and I may disagree with their views, but the do represent how most of mainstream and small town americans feel.

2000 and 2004 should have prooved this by now?

[cali]

21. It's unconscionable of Hillary to use

Norquist to attack Obama. And it clearly demonstrates who she really is.

[Texas Hill Country]

27. hahaha, ok.

[cali]

32. glad you're so comfy with your candidate

cozying up to wingnuts.

[blogslut]

53. Do you even know who Grover Norquist is?

Well, do you?

[immoderate]

22. Shouldn't Olbermann be in there somewhere?

Gotta link?:shrug:

--IMM

[Texas Hill Country]

26. I heard it on AAR this morning on the way into work, sorry... but I will try to find one just 4 you

and no, i dont remember hearing Olbermann in the top 10

[Garbo 2004]

42. You, like so many others, forget Gore won popular vote in 2000.

And it took the SCOTUS to shut down vote counting in Florida so as not to "disadvantage" Bush.

Ohio GE 2004 wasn't exactly kosher. Ample evidence of that. I won't go through it here.

So those two examples don't "proove" your thesis.

And if Faux News was an accurate representation of "mainstream" America, the majority of Americans would support the war (they don't), Bush's popularity numbers would be through the roof (they aren't) and the Dems wouldn't have won Congress in 2006.

[MagickMuffin]

23. Grover Norquist the man who wants to drown the government in the bathtub

Maybe Hilly is wanting to help him suckseed.

[cali]

24. One and the same

and Hillary thinks it's just peachy to use that slime to attack Obama.

[Divernan]

25. She & Bill praised McCain, despite his desicably crude joke he made about "why Chelsea is so ugly."

www.crooksandliars.com

John McCain’s crude Chelsea Clinton joke
By: John Amato on Saturday, February 9th, 2008 at 9:01 AM - PST John McCain made this odious joke about Chelsea Clinton back in ‘98.

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”

– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

Not only is McCain’s hideous attempt at humor about 10 times more tasteless than what Shuster said (as the David Corn article notes, newspapers that reported on the joke wouldn’t even print it), but while the newsman’s ill-conceived comment was at least spontaneous, McCain’s joke was a prepared remark to a public audience.

Maybe McCain has more in common with Limbaugh than Rush thinks. The straight talk express should be ashamed of himself."

If the Clintons can rationalize overlooking that vicious attack on their supposedly dearly-loved daughter, there is no one they won't publicly embrace if it furthers their agenda of wealth and power.

[cali]

30. Hell, she and Bill sucked up to Scaife who accused her of murder

they're sick people.

[PATRICK]

31. And McCain's relationship

(despite his sour temper) to Bush who kneecapped him with dirt in 2000 is just another example of this Beltway intestinal immunity to minimal personal integrity. They want to be just good pals outside the fake pro-wrestling ring where thousands of us perish miserably for real every year, losing everything in the glow of their stable camaraderie. And they are. The biggest most sincere opposition and spite they display and the worst aggression they dish out is:

against truth tellers,
citizen activists of conscience,
the general public,
America,
the World,
Humanity,
simple facts.

[madrchsod]

35. bill said hillary and john are good friends

and the campaign would be boring.....this was a statement just before the south carolina primary

[HooptieWagon]

28. It is evident that her ambition trumps any political beliefs or morals

The big question is: Why doesn't she just run as a republican? She's already 3/4 there...

[nichomachus]

29. Clinton campaign strategy: Shoot self in foot. Reload. Repeat. n/t

[pdxmom]

33. I think this kind of thing is what could do her in with the supers. She's

not going to other Dems for support. She's going to those that have shown their contempt and hate for all things progressive to make her case. Scares the bejeebus out of me to think that she could be the nominee, based on who she is crawling in bed with to secure it.

[madrchsod]

34. norquist was run out of illinois by the repubilcans!

he tried to get the republicans to join his crusade but they told him the republican voters would never go for his ideas..the faction that brought him to illinois brought in keyes who lost every county in illinois but 9. obama 70% keyes 27%

he tried a scam on the folks here but somehow they figured it out and sent him packing...

[City Lights]

36. Whatever it takes, Cali.

The only thing she cares about is winning, and she'll say or do anything to achieve that goal.

[futureliveshere]

37. My jaw-dropper was when she promoted McC over Obama the first time

Then it became commonplace and now she just re-affirms the same old tradition. BAH!!!

[butterfly77]

41. And Bill,,,

This was one that angered me too but now she is really showing who she really is I really am starting to think about doing a write-in or something because I am starting to really hate her and Randi was correct as well as Ed Shultz.

[ruggerson]

38. You know perfectly well that both campaigns engage in this

so I think we're seeing a bit of selective outrage.

[JackORoses]

50. Obama has never promoted McCain over Hillary. Not Once.

This is not just politics as usual.

In fact, I do not know of another instance in recent history where a Democrat suggested a Repub would be a more qualified President than one of their own Party.

She is traitorous.

[cali]

52. prove it.

evidence that Obama has used the words of someone like Norquist to attack Hillary.

[Usrename]

39. Using Grover Norquist talking points is beyond the pale.

This may be where people will say she jumped the shark.

[tokenlib]

40. She's probably recruiting Norquist for the DLC..n/t

[Adelante]

43. She's turning me goddamned bitter

I can tell you that much.

[VolcanoJen]

44. WTF WTF WTF WTF???

Seriously, :wtf:

Norquist? I can't even bring myself to click on your link. Grover fucking Norquist!!?????

[WillyT]

45. So... One Has To Ask, "Was Randi Rhodes Correct ???"

:mad:

[jgraz]

48. At this point, I'd have suspended Randi for going too easy on her

Grover Fucking Norquist. There just is no limit to her scumbaggery.

[PM7nj]

49. Yes. Abso-fucking-lutely.

I have lost all respect for Hillary. There wasn't much left before, but it's all gone now.

[Kahuna]

46. I predict the that these endorsements by Norquist and Rollins will cause

the forward march of even more SDs to Team Obama.

[newmajority]

47. She also BRAGGED about Limbaugh's Dildoheads voting for her in Ohio.

Apparently no Republican is too loathsome for Hillary. :puke:

[Justitia]

51. Oh the Clintons luuuuuv them some wingnuts! -eom