Obama's condescending sneer of small town PA learned at Pastor Wright's knee.

[MethuenProgressive]

As BO wrote in "Dreams," he first heard about the need to disavow "middleclassness" at Trinity from Pastor Wright.
Barack seems to think words don't matter, after all.

[anonymous171]

1. At TUCC, they disavow middleclassness because

(they believe) it makes you think you are better than other people. So it's the antithesis of snobbery.

[GarbagemanLB]

3. shh. Let the Hillary folk cling to their sinking ship.

[rodeodance]

16. Obama did the small-town PA "snobbery" SF while asking for $$ from billionaires and

others.

What was he thinking!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

24. I'm pretty sure he was thinking it was "private". I guess he's finding out that

even at a "private" fundraiser, words spoken can come back to haunt.

[MethuenProgressive]

37. With some experience, he'll learn not to insult people "in private" so much.

In another 8 years or so, he'll make a fine candidate.

[mckeown1128]

80. But unfortunately in 8 years he will hit his presidential term limit. nt

[MethuenProgressive]

81. You think McCain will run for another term after trouncing Obama in November?

Let's Hope we nominate Clinton, and put a Democrat in the Whitehouse this November.

[tbyg52]

42. Then it was a good lesson learned,

and, I believe, at not too great an expense. It's not that it wasn't true, just could have been said better. I'm sure R's say lots worse at *their* fundraisers.

[JoFerret]

76. That was naive then

...very naive.

There are worse things than being naive but naivety is not a desired presidential quality.

If he survives this then again - Clinton will have schooled him on a very important area.

[boston bean]

19. Only middleclass, what about upper class like O and Michelle oh and Rev Wright

that's ok, just don't be middleclass. If your gonna get rich do it all at once, we wouldn't want anyone to work their way out of poverty.

[anonymous171]

20. lol. Can't read can you?

[deathdog]

63. Living in $1.6 million mansions in gated communities

can make you think you are better than other people too. And is the height of snobbery.

Trinity needs to start walking its talk.

[MethuenProgressive]

67. I agree, dd.

"Trinity needs to start walking its talk."

[patrice]

2. Is the Middleclass perfect? nt

[MethuenProgressive]

4. No, they're bitter, clinging to guns and church.

According to Him.

[anonymous171]

5. Because politicians like BC and Bush promise them the world then forget about them

after the election.

[patrice]

15. Promise them the world and then forget them after they get their$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$nt

[MoonRiver]

10. And don't forget their anti-free trade protectionism.

Now what was that I heard about BO being so pro labor? :nuke:

[patrice]

13. Many are. nt

[philk17088]

34. they are

You insist that Sen Obama meant this as a put down. It isn't, it is an observation that is correct and the soft urban dems better figure out that they don't control squat.
Only the snob dems think that being religous is a defect. They feel the same way about guns. I'm telling you elite dems who love to bundle cash and favors for Hillary. Your days are numbered.

[patrice]

48. Most people do not understand the concept/skill of "observation" and being able

to describe something completely, positive AND negative, without judgement. It takes sensitivity to others and practice, practice, practice.

:hi: philk17088 - Welcome to DU. Enjoy!

[jackson_dem]

74. They are as good as millionaires like Obama

[DerekJ]

6. Thank God for the three threads limit!!

[MethuenProgressive]

64. Thank God Canadians only get 2.85 threads a day!

Why are you here?

[jenmito]

7. Who's Omaba?

[Bolo Boffin]

11. Who's Baracks, for that matter?

ETS: He has changed the misspelling. He still employs a questionably racist abbreviation of Barack's name, however, one that he has been warned about.

[hisownpetard]

27. !!!

:rofl:

[jenmito]

36. ...

He didn't even thank me for pointing that out! :D

[hisownpetard]

38. Some people are just so rood.

:eyes:

[joeybee12]

8. If BO had just said people were bitter, it would be ok, it's his condescending

comments by trying to explain (what he thinks) they do with that bitterness, like immigrant bash. Bots don't get how that is a problem and insulting. They are delusional, and this just shows more and more how totally unelectable he is.

[rodeodance]

21. and it was insulting for him to mock the people for relying on their faith during hard times.

[hisownpetard]

45. Mocking is in the eye of the beholder.

[patrice]

50. Some mocking is in the eye of the beholder. Some mocking is mocking.

And it is the responsibility of the individual to be able to recognize which is which and to determine the appropriate and constructive response.

[patrice]

53. If something someone says is incorrect, it's not an insult. It's an error that one

sets about to appropriately correct.

[ShortnFiery]

9. Gosh, what other insane gyrations are you capable of? This is "out there."

Please consider stepping away from the keyboard for a brief break? Not even the corporate whores in the M$M thinks this stuff will stick. :thumbsdown:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

12. Do you understand the difference between middle class and working class?

Do you understand that his comments were directed toward working class Republicans, not middle class Democrats? Are you being deliberately obtuse?

[jenmito]

14. You're welcome.

:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[Little Star]

18. True, true, true! k&r for truth!

[MethuenProgressive]

46. Thanks, Little Star

:dem:

[kwenu]

22. Been there done that. Obama is right. Prepare for the backfire.

[Nitrogenica]

23. Blech! What a childish disgusting post. Bye Bye.

[Window]

25. ..

:rofl:

[last_texas_dem]

26. I'm white, from a small town, and from a middle-class background

And while I think Obama's comments were strategically a mistake (being *that* honest will always hurt you politically), I'm amazed that there are DUers who claim outrage or claim to not see the truth in his comments. It makes me wonder how many are being willfully obtuse for the sake of bashing Obama.

[MethuenProgressive]

33. BO just announced his remarks were "ill chosen"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080412/ap_on_el_pr/obama_clinton

Obama concedes remarks were ill chosen

By JIM KUHNHENN and CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press WriterS
22 minutes ago

MUNCIE, Ind - After a full throated response to criticism that he is condescending, Democrat Barack Obama on Saturday conceded that that comments he made about bitter working class voters who "cling to guns or religion" were ill chosen.

"I didn't say it as well as I should have," he said.

[jenmito]

35. Hey-I have an idea-why don't you start a new thread about this "breaking news"?

:rofl:

[TLM]

73. What is it about a whole quote that you can't comprehend?

Your link connects to a different text than what you quoted....

"If I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that," Obama said in an interview with the Winston-Salem (N.C.) Journal.

[WillyT]

28. And My Condescending Sneer Of You Was Learned Right Here With This Very Thread !!!

Goodbye... Yellow Brick Road

:wtf:

[MethuenProgressive]

29. ...

[hisownpetard]

41. I sneer of you!

[WillyT]

47. And I Fart In Your General Direction, LOL !!!

"I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction."



"Now Go Away or I Will Taunt You a Second Time."

:rofl:

[MadBadger]

30. Great...more Pastorbating.

[hisownpetard]

43. I try only to Pastorbait on Sundays.

[Name removed]

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[undeterred]

32. This is the silliest post yet.

[MethuenProgressive]

40. On a board where 95% of the posts are about Hillary's bookbag?

Wow. Quite a comment.

[hisownpetard]

44. Not true. Some are about her "loot bag" which, apparently,k is quite full.

[undeterred]

52. ok I haven't read them all

Its the sillest post I've read today.

[hisownpetard]

54. Just teasing...

:hi:

[mmonk]

39. And the republican talking points of Clinton supporters were

learned where?

[book_worm]

49. as disgusting as usual.

[MethuenProgressive]

71. ...

[tbyg52]

51. I can't believe people rec stuff like this, but then I realize I am now kicking it..... nt

[MethuenProgressive]

56. Thanks for the kick!

:hi:

[Warren Stupidity]

55. You forgot to throw in 'cult'.

[MethuenProgressive]

57. thanks for the kick!

[kdpeters]

58. Here you go:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5462777&mesg_id=5462777

[MethuenProgressive]

61. Please, don't post links to right wing hate blogs.

It's against DU rules.

[Forkboy]

59. You guys will overplay this, just like you did with Wright.

:shrug:

[MethuenProgressive]

65. It's all about the bookbag...

Parsing everything a candidate says to find something to bitch about - Axlerod's First Law.

[Forkboy]

69. I thought the bookbag stuff was stupid and said so.

But don't you think it's kind of hypocritical to complain about Axelrod doing it if you guys are turning around and playing the same game? :shrug:

[MattBaggins]

60. I understand where you are coming from

but I feel at this point we should be talking about how Clinton followers will help Obama win the GE since he will be the party nominee.

[MethuenProgressive]

62. Spamming the same post all over DU? Did Deval Patrick run out of quotables?

[Bonobo]

66. 12 Recs!!! OMG! Sad!

[MethuenProgressive]

68. Awwww, don't be bitter!

Someday you too might live in a multi-million dollar mansion in a gated community like BO!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

70. And they were both drinking lattes while they disavowed the middle class!

Bastards.

:eyes:

[Coexist]

72. back to Ignore..

[MethuenProgressive]

75. Thanks for the kick!

:yourock:

[Name removed]

77. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[npincus]

78. Sir, you sound BITTER...

:rofl:

[MethuenProgressive]

79. Thanks for the kick!

:yourock:

[Marie26]

82. That's a big stretch

Much as his opponents would like to connect everything to Rev. Wright, I suspect he got this idea on his own. Obama just doesn't have that much knowledge or experience w/blue-collar towns, and it shows.

[MethuenProgressive]

83. Wright's church teaches, according to BO in His book, anti-middleclassness.

I think its a notion that would never had occured to BO on His own.

[Marie26]

84. But this isn't anti-middleclassness

It's anti-working-classness. Rev. Wright preached against the "latte liberal" thing that Obama actually draws his support from.

[DearAbby]

85. DING DING DING

I won the bet....I knew PASTORGATE will be brought up sooner or later...the monkeys slinging poo, seeing what sticks, since "Bittergate" is dead.


Recap

Rezko threads = Check
Bittergate threads = Check
Pastorgate threads = Check

:bouncing: I won the pool!!!