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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:25 PM
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I hate to say this, but the GOP nominee is being more civil and more kind to Obama than Hillary.
Why is this important?

Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee.

Senator Clinton cannot overcome the math. She's only in the race as the Mike Huckabee candidate, pretending she still has a chance and waiting for something to hopefully occur that will stop the inevitable. She knows that she can't win this. So she's either in this to hurt Obama to run again in 2012, or she is hoping for something to sink Obama so she can come in and save the day. She's already throwing everything, including the kitchen sink, at Senator Obama.

It's amazing how a Democratic candidate for President is being more vile, vicious, low, and manipulative than the Republican nominee for President.

It's a sad day in politics when someone I respect and admire abandons what's right for the party and the country and clings onto her pathetic and selfish ambitions.

Isn't it sad that John McCain is acting more civil and more kind to Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton?

How can anyone defend this?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:31 PM
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1. "Shame on you, Barack" "He's out of touch" These attacks didn't come from a Republican.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:45 PM
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9. go to americablog.com and see cafferty et al eviscerate Clinton/McCain
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:49 PM
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10. go to americablog.com and see cafferty et al eviscerate Clinton/McCain
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:32 PM
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2. Now, why do you think that is?
Think about it.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:32 PM
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3. I agree, its a damn shame K&R
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:52 PM
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11. It really is. I can't believe I once supported her.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:34 PM
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4. That is totally true. If Hillary can't win, she is going to make sure he doesnt win either.
Sad. We should have won this year.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:37 PM
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5. We will win. With or without Hillary Clinton.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:44 PM
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8. You are probably right. This time in a couple of months
all of this primary election BS will have been forgotten and Obama will be out kicking ass and taking names.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:00 PM
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18. So true, so true!!
:dem:
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:42 PM
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6. No one can
We have to make sure we make HRC unelectable by Democrats from this point forward. There's enough of her lies coming to the surface that all we have to do is archive them for future use.

In other words, we can do to her in 2012 what we'll do to McCain in the coming months. ;-)
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:42 PM
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7. Naturally, McCain isn't half as desperate so he's twice as civil. Frankly, Hillary is more civil to
Obama than most DU Obama supporters are to Hillary (who's a fine Democrat but who is probably only the third most-likely-to-win Democrat who ran this time around).

Obama supporters here sometimes make me embarrassed of my Obama yard sign and Obama bumper sticker (the other 90% of the time, I'm rightfully proud to support Obama).
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:52 PM
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12. Hillary is scared and...
The smell of D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N is...

getting stronger...
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:54 PM
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13. The moment she's arguing HE'S out of touch, you're right...desperation.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:13 PM
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14. bizarre world
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 02:14 PM by Two Americas
It is very strange what is happening - because Clinton is allegedly "attacking," and even the mildest criticism of Obama and common and completely acceptable campaign rhetoric is seen as "attacking" - therefore this justifies taking the gloves off and launching an all out smear campaign in return, the most mean spirited and vicious attacks I have seen in 40 years within the party. Anything goes when it comes to attacking Clinton and Clinton supporters. Why? because they are the attackers.

I can't help but wonder if this pattern - accusing the accuser of accusing us of accusing - where cause and effect are completely lost in the shuffle, and where "she had it coming" and "she brought it on herself" reverse logic is acceptable, is not a product of the relentless right wing propaganda we have been deluged with for the last 20 years. In their world, there is such a thing as "reverse racism." And what are these attacks against Clinton if not "reverse attackism?"

And who are the evil ones, the ones we have given ourselves permission to savage and destroy? Those evil Clinton supporters. And how are they defined, how do we detect them and know whom we can level our attacks against? Anyone expressing any reservations or doubts about the Obama campaign must therefore be one of the evil ones, must be promoting Clinton. You are for us or against us, no middle ground, good versus evil heroes versus villains, and no hint of heresy is to be tolerated. That is exactly the wat that the right wingers define "liberal" - exactly the same logic. "Of course you would say that, you are a liberal (Clinton supporter.) How do we know you are a liberal (Clinton supporter?) Well, you disagree with us so therefore you must be a liberal (Clinton supporter.) What is a liberal (Clinton supporter?) Why anyone who disagrees with us, of course. And we know that you liberals (Clinton supporters) are trying to advance a secret agenda, and don't try to deny it, we are on to your tricks. Just try to deny that you are a liberal (Clinton supporter) and prove that you do not have a secret evil agenda. Go ahead you liberal (Clinton supporter.) We are waiting."

Obviously, anything one tries to say in their defense, as a liberal, or as a Clinton supporter, is merely more evidence that you are in fact guilty as charged. If you agree, well then you are admitting that you are a liberal with the liberal agenda. If you disgaree, well then isn't that just what a liberal would do? "Gotcha," either way.

We are using different words, and supposedly fighting for a different cause, but the underlying pattern and logic of our thinking is mimicking the right wing "reverse" world. We are singing different lyrics, but the music is the same.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:49 PM
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15. That's because the Swiftboat team is going to take him down FOR him.
He'll tut-tut his way through the "God Damn America" ads, and "Oh, well..." his way through the "Pledge of Allegiance" nonsense, and he'll "Never mind" the flag pin business...

He doesn't have to do a thing. He can play the "above the fray" game from now till the cows come home.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:58 PM
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16. She's doing McCain's work for him -- and he doesn't have to get mud on him
That's her whole point for remaining in the race ... to help McCain win.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:59 PM
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17. McSame's surrogates won't be so civil once Obama is the nominee.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:01 PM
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19. Obama's kinder to Hillary than Bill is - McCain's kinder to Obama than Hillary is
I'm going to throw up cotton candy if I go on one more ride
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:04 PM
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20. more of that coronation stuff. You've gone over to the Obama camp
. . . and now you want everyone else to fall in line behind your view that his nomination is inevitable. But, to the little less than half of the voters between these two candidates, there's still a primary contest going on. It may well suit your choice in this election for his opponent to fold and bequeath her hard won delegates to Obama to help him achieve what he's been unable to obtain by votes cast alone. But, he's not the nominee, and his campaign is only as inevitable as the outcome of the process at its end. And, it's not over.

If you're expecting that McCain will lay off of our nominee you're in for a big surprise.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:05 PM
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21. Hillary wants to destroy Obama to keep him from being president...
Hillary won't allow any Democrat but herself to hold that office. :-(
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:06 PM
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22. he's also being kinder to Clinton than O and his supporters are. go figure. nt
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 03:07 PM by VotesForWomen
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