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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:55 PM
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This is the shit that needs to stop!
From a Time Magazine article, November 1988. Funny how some things remain the same:


The aristocratic Vice President would seem like an ideal target. Son of a Wall Street banker and U.S. Senator. Andover. Yale. Kennebunkport. What could be easier? But Bush reversed the normal equation. The man with four names jettisoned his g's, touted his taste for pork rinds and successfully put himself across as a regular guy. Bush persuaded voters to forget his background by pushing to the foreground the themes of cultural, not economic, populism: patriotism (the flag and the Pledge) and toughness on crime. His campaign has cynically mined the white fears and racism that feed this form of cultural populism. At the same time, the Bush campaign depicted Dukakis as a "Harvard elitist." Dukakis' initial lawyerly defense of the flag issue played right into that perception.


This is amazing considering that when Bush was a child he had five maids and a chauffeur. Supposedly he was driven to elementary school by his chauffeur! and he had the nerve to call someone else an "elitist"...
I am fascinated that this continues today. And we Americans keep falling for it!


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:58 PM
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1. Hillary is the one hoping we fall for this.......it is no longer Republicans
as much as it is our own.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:58 PM
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2. K & R
:thumbsup:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:59 PM
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3. SCARY how gullible the American public is
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:01 PM
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4. Yep,
but I'm tired of rolling over and taking it....
we seriously need to find OUR voice!
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:01 PM
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5. I know neither Clinton came from wealthy families did McCain or
BO?
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:24 PM
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6. Hillary's dad drove a cadillac. Obama's dad lived in a hut in Africa.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:11 PM
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7. Indeed it does.
But the power of imagemaking and lie-telling is such that it can take a Purple Heart Vietnam vet and transform him into a wimpy coward, and take a guy who went AWOL from the National Guard and make him into a war hero.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:41 PM
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8. mind boggling, huh?
THAT was what ticked me off so much in 2000 and 2004, the repubs were able to win with a marketing campaign. and it was completely false advertising! I'm not sure that we have a way around it, but it's crazy. I guess if the "common man" (that's me!) gets fed up enough to band together and finally do something--we DO outnumber them. just not sure what it's gonna take!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:44 PM
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9. The hateful, deceptive persona of GHW Bush converted me from being a Republican to a Dem.
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 06:44 PM by Buzz Clik
I am stunned to see this behavior in a Democrat for whom I used to have the greatest admiration.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:46 PM
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10. "Americans keep falling for it."
Many certainly do.

And if you want to see why, read Dear Hunting with Jesus by Joe Bagent.

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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:52 PM
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11. I think when Bush and republicans use the term "elitist" they do not mean
it in terms of wealth. I think they are trying to label their targets as persons who think their "views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight." quoting Wikapedia.

So I think they can be effective with this label regardless of the wealth of the person using the term or the wealth of the target.


Am I right on this or is this one more thing I am not clearly understanding?



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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:03 PM
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12. I think by labeling a person "elitist"
they are saying he is not a common man, not one of the people. that could be because of wealth, or just ideologies. like being out of touch with the public. not knowing what the majority of americans are facing because you are elevated to a higher "standard" than them. just my opinion...
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:07 PM
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13. I think you are right and that is part of what they are doing.
I think they are also suggesting an arrogance. Unfortunately they seem to score some points with this tactic.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:10 PM
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14. it's just ironic that when she chose
to work for one of the largest corporations in america (and non-union at that) he chose to work in the streets helping displaced workers find new jobs and support families.
elitist? please!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:31 PM
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15. Interesting.
"The man with four names jettisoned his g's, touted his taste for pork rinds and successfully put himself across as a regular guy. Bush persuaded voters to forget his background by pushing to the foreground the themes of cultural, not economic, populism: patriotism (the flag and the Pledge) and toughness on crime"

And we now continue it in our own party.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:34 PM
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16. yeah....
the flag and the pledge thing is really ironic...
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