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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:16 PM
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Photos from Obama's San Francisco Fundraiser
along with information about the neighborhood and such.

Posted for any who care to read it. I have no agenda here, since I no longer have a candidate in this race, but thought others might find it interesting.

http://www.zombietime.com/obama_visits_billionaires_row/
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:17 PM
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1. I like this gallery from that site better:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:17 PM
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38. This was great
Though I think that many men, regardless of who they will vote for would appreciate the Natalie Portman photo. Jeez girl! If not then do you ever wear a bra?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:19 PM
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2. "No agenda"?? That's rich.
If you have no agenda, why link to a clearly negative article?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:19 PM
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3. bullshit you have no agenda. You've had an anti-Obama agenda for at least a month now.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:20 PM
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4. It starts off fairly childish, and is loaded with false argument, for example,
"Obama didn't want you to know about it. Because the events he was attending weren't for people like you."

This reminds me of the right wing e-mails I've seen over and over and over for years now.



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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:31 PM
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13. IIRC, the only time Hillary's shown up in my town in last few yrs is for private fundraisers. nt
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:50 PM
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20. Well it's a RW site....
So I guess having "no agenda" on DU now gives posters license to parrot the worst of the RW talking points.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:21 PM
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40. It is NOT right-wing site.
This is perfectly unbiased, for instance:

http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/al_gores_secret_message/

I mean, how could anyone argue with that? :crazy:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:21 PM
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5. your pants are afire, dear.
You post nothing but anti-Obama stuff.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:22 PM
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6. .....the events he was attending weren't for people like you.
Biiiiig money....BIIIIG MONEY!!!!!!!!

No wonder he shot off his mouth--he thought he was safe, as no MEDIA was allowed:

Your trusty party-animal-by-proxy has tried to infiltrate these events, but transparency seems to be fogged up. No media eyes allowed on the collection kettles; when the gifts are big, the press is barred. ...... Obama bills himself as a man of the people, who will beat down big business. ... Given his populist stance, Obama's recent trip to the Bay Area, during which he hobnobbed only with the richest and most famous, is amusing, since it either presents a man with no discernible principles or it presents a bunch of rich people who are allowing themselves to be led like lambs to the slaughter.
...
The 46-year-old Democratic senator started the day in Atherton , made his way to Marin and then was due in at the Getty mansion in San Francisco for another event.

Actually, the political pandering from Obama, on the one hand, and the stupid fawning from the rich, on the other hand, wasn't what I found so irritating about the IJ article. Politics in America is, after all, mostly about power, and Obama looks as if he will have the power and these people think that they can buy access. End of story.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:33 PM
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14. Yep
He was stupid. Shame on him. Those people are not his base and he should have known better. I love Barack but going to talk to those people for money like that was a huge mistake I hope he doesn't make again.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:36 AM
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30. Now wait a minute
"Those people" are Americans too. They have just as much a right to contribute to a campaign as any American. Not all millionairs are bad people. Why can't candidates address all Americans? I once paid a lot more than most could afford to speak to Wes Clark at a private fundraiser in Chicago. I did it because I believed in him and cared deeply about the direction this country was headed. Maybe these people have the same feelings toward Obama. Are you really saying he should turn his back to these Americans because they are wealthy? :shrug:

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:39 AM
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33. thank you
the class warfare here is demeaning and juvenile.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:38 AM
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32. how do you know cali's family
doesn't have money?

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:22 PM
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7. No-agenda, but you'll read an anti-Democratic blog?
Uhm, ok. Why were you over there in the first place? It's a site that mocks and demonizes many who protest the Iraq War. Hell, it's even anti-Hillary. :eyes:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:24 PM
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8. Good lord, dissing small town PA -- in front of some serious limousine liberals
Yeah, that's gonna play real well. Face it, Obama is done.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:39 PM
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17. Oh DemGA
You've been predicting the end of Obama for the past two months. I'm going to be worried when you say he is going to win.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:26 PM
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9. Nice rightwing site, jackhole. n/t
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:28 PM
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10. maybe he felt they needed to be reminded that unemployed people in the rust belt
have a right to be frustrated that their jobs have gone away.

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:28 PM
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11. Zombie...
...of zombietime is a regular contributor at the littlegreenfootballs hate-site.

Why are you posting his garbage here?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:34 PM
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15. Because there is very little difference between LGF
and your typical online Clinton supporter.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:30 PM
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12. Give him a break
He's desperate to keep up with Clinton in fund raising :)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:36 PM
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16. Go Go Power Funders!
Oh wait, wrong candidate. Haim Saban is a Clinton man.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:40 PM
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18. Here I go, trying to break ignore again.
lol
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 04:41 PM
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19. Neat ! Thanks for posting ! I like knowing that Obama has "big donors" too ! Like Hillary !
GOBAMA !
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:48 PM
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21. Oh, Goody.
Another Right-wing site to alert on.

Thanks!
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:46 AM
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22. No agenda, huh?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:48 AM by WIllo
This is some of what you say on your "gallery":

Obama Visits Billionaires Row

On April 6, 2008, Barack Obama visited the San Francisco region, zipping from event to event all day long, from one end of the Bay Area to the other.

What? you might ask. How did I miss that? If only I had known, I would have gone to see him.
Well, there's a reason you didn't know about it. Obama didn't want you to know about it. Because the events he was attending weren't for people like you.
They were for people with lots and lots of money, who use that money to gain access and influence with politicians -- especially politicians who might become president.

So although the San Francisco Bay Area is probably the most pro-Obama section of the entire country, with Obama signs and stickers visible everywhere you turn, when Obama himself actually visited his electoral home base, he ignored the hoi polloi -- all the little people who swoon over him -- and instead, he spent the entire day with the rich. According to local gossip columnist Leah Garchik:


However, additional video was released:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x117848

Barack Obama - S.F. April 6, 2008

video transcript:

I very early on, when I was elected to the U.S. Senate said, that George Bush's ownership society essentially meant you're on your own and that's been great for us, those who are gathered here. But it hasn't been good for a whole bunch of people and because we have not been willing to reinvest all the wealth and all the productivity gains that have been achieved over the past decade, resentments have built up and if you go into Ohio if you go into PA if you into the vast midlands of the country they are ready to shut down globalization tomorrow.

Protectionism, anti-immigrant sentiment which is a variation on protectionism and its not that they don't understand that things have changed its that they feel like they don't have a stake in that change and they're right because all of us have enjoyed tax breaks from George Bush that we didn't need and weren't even asking for instead of taking some of that money and some of those surpluses and reinvesting it in infrastructure, laying broadband lines in rural communities, making college more affordable and retraining workers who have been laid off and so rediscovering in the sense that we're all in it together that's going to be critical and again, that's a political issue, that's not that we don't know how to do it.



And now Fowler has released the full audio from that meeting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-exclusive-audio-on_b_96333.html


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:51 AM
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23. and the myth that Obama's campaign is grassroots is crumbling.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:57 AM
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24. He went to a fundraiser and advocated on behalf of the working people.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:02 AM
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25.  He went to Billionaire Row in SF and dumped on small-town Pa.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:15 AM
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26. "...it's been great for us. But, it hasn't been good for a whole bunch of people..."
Selective reading and listening doesn't make your case.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:24 AM
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27. they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion" I can selective like you can.
''It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.''
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:25 AM
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28. Which is why those wedge issues always work and the long-tenured politicians
in Washington can continue to ignore those people in Pennsylvania or Indiana or Illinois...
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:35 AM
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29. You are being selective in your interpretion. What are you afraid of?
What do you fear losing by an Obama presidency?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:09 PM
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35. Those were BHO words , not my interpretation.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:53 PM
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50. Again the fact that you can only support your lies by editing the quote....
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 02:54 PM by TLM

proves how weak and dishonest you attacks are....


Even when meeting with well off doners, Obama is fighting for the plight of the middle Americans who Hillary left behind with her support of wal*mart and NAFTA.... but what does she care, she has her 109 million... so everything is fine in her eyes.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html


Full transcript:

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people feel most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...I think they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter).

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- close tax loopholes, roll back, you know, the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American. So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.
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GeniusLib Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:27 PM
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41. it's been great for us. But, it hasn't been good for a whole bunch of people
Interesting who he self-identifies with, the billionaire aristocrats and not the working class despite being a "man of the people"
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:49 PM
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48. Obama has close to a million individual donors, very few of them are rich
And since when has it become a problem for rich people to give Democrats their money? Lord knows plenty of rich people give Republicans their money.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:35 PM
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52. Obama actually has about 1.5 million individual donors.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:37 AM
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31. I know I'm sick and tired of the need to debunk B.S.
Let this sham of a primary be done after PA.

There's work to be done in this country
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:16 AM
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34. Do you think for a second that Hillary doesn't attend events just like that?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 11:16 AM by pstans
That is the way the game is played. You have to court the big money and special interests to raise enough money to get elected. This is exactly the reason we need clean elections.

I bet Hillary has had 10 times as many fundraisers like that than Obama has had.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:10 PM
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36. Its BHO who give the illusion of a grassroots camp--but that myth is fading.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:18 PM
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39. Yes, his campaign is actually organized by evil robots.
Evil robots FROM HELL.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:29 PM
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43. I disagree--they are not evil.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:44 PM
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45. Yep. It faded for me a long time ago....
Look... I wasn't born yesterday. Anyone who believes that Mr. Obama is raising the millions he is raising.... from middle and working class folks like me....

Well, let's just say... I've got an Ocean here in Ohio I can sell 'em.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:39 PM
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46. Obama is doing both.
He is getting the $2,300 checks and getting a ton of $25 checks also.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:48 PM
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47. No different than HRC then.
Interesting....
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:44 PM
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54. But Obama is raising a ton more small donations than Clinton is and isn't taking PAC $
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:44 PM by pstans
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:48 AM
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55. I keep hearing that.
But... what I see is something entirely different. I see "bundlers" with great influence. And I fail to see how they are different than PACs.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:14 PM
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:30 PM
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42. No agenda?
:rofl:

I don't mind you posting this, but don't piss on our leg and tell us it's raining.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:40 PM
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44. Wow! And if that were Hillary....
we'd never hear the end of it. Would we?
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:52 PM
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49. No, Hillary is not allowed to do fundraisers.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:05 PM
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51. Well, well, well, so St. Obama is nothing more than a mere...
social climber after all.


I know, I know, it's all Hillary's fault.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:37 PM
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53. And?
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:51 AM
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56. Are any of these scary rich people even as wealthy as Hillary?
look it's a LIMO!!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:32 PM
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57. And I can post the locations....
of several super-swank, private fundraisers Hillary Clinton has done here in San Francisco and the Bay Area. :shrug: So?
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