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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:45 PM
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Is Obama's wife now doing the speech writing for her husband?
Is that the source of the small town bitter American speech do you think?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:46 PM
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:47 PM
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2. You seem so bitter. What's up with that?
Why do you hate Barrack Obama the way you do? What exactly did he do to you to cause you be so bitter?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:33 PM
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57. BenDavid, I could tell it was you.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:47 PM
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3. She is too busy hating America to write speeches
It's just played, Jerry. So played.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:48 PM
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4. WTF is this, a gradeschool playground?
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 05:48 PM by jhuth
Are you an actual adult asking a question like that?

Just wondering.

Are you the mustard man?

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:48 PM
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5. He may have been channeling her.
I think he thought that this would never see the light of day.

He believed that he could talk honestly about how he felt about those rubes.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:14 PM
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17. Try to get your head around this...
He has been talking about these issues since 2004. He WANTS it to see the "light of day" - and he wants you to see it, too.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:19 PM
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19. Obama said: "Well look, if there - obviously, if I worded things in a way that made people offended,
Obama said: "Well look, if there - obviously, if I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that.

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173355267416
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:02 PM
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54. I meant what I said, I just didn't mean to say it the way I said it.
Jeez.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:48 PM
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6. And don't forget he's really an anti-semite
and a racist.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:52 PM
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11. He only wishes - then he could find some justification in his own bigotted and racist hatred.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:00 PM
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15. If we could only address bigotry in the African American community
Their bitterness turned inward, the conflicts they have with their achievers ... they don't want to be American Palestinians.

But politicians use constituencies - I was hoping for something better from Barry.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:23 PM
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23. Predictably disgusting
you are stunning unself-aware.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:53 PM
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51. Ah, my predictable stalker. Couldn't restrain yourself, could you?
But that would require maturity.

If you've seen my work profiled on the evening news, you'd know I'm delightfully self-aware. In fact, in the credits section of my latest project, I'm thinking of describing myself as, "Everyone's mother."

Only you would be disgusted by an earnest desire for reconciliation. But your pain originates elsewhere ... I'm just your latest target. Stalkers always have one ...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:25 PM
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48. You really posted that?
Like, with your name on it, and everything?

Good gawd.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:53 PM
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55. Poster has no shame.
Now freepers, once so-called dems are apparently free to post amongst us true democratic progressives. Not for long, soon it will all be over.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:34 PM
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34. Comments like yours belong in the trash heap at the Free Republic
Why do young, intelligent progressive multi-racial men who talk about justice and equality and who face America's issues straight-on, why do people like that frighten you so much that you make stuff up?

I really want to know why you do it.......but I doubt you're brave enough to answer.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:51 PM
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50. Frightened of whom? I live in a majority minority district ... my choice
after growing up in East Flatbush. It was my oldest brother who asked in Lefferts General Hospital, "Mommy, am I Black?"

No, we were observant Jews - and easy targets for the rioters of the 60's. I'm not afraid any more ... heck, I'll work w/NYPD again offering free computer classes to any kid they bring in.

Make stuff up? Life's too interesting for fiction these days. What's bothering you?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:25 AM
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59. oh for pity's sake
my post was sarcasm. And if you were a bit more familiar with this place, you'd know that. And you'd know why I posted it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:18 PM
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46. You forgot unpatriotic antichrist.
And homophobe.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:51 PM
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7. You know BenDavid, I hadn't thought of that, but I believe you could be right.
Small town American folks, are proud, patriotic, hardworking and proud. They work hard and know who is with them and who is belittling them. I'm a small town person and I hate the elitist crowd looking down at me and so do my neighbors.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:08 PM
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16. They sound very "proud"...
:eyes:

I'm glad you live in a small town where everybody is "proud, patriotic, hardworking and proud" and nobody is angry.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:26 PM
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25. Obama's church flock and his neighbors may not be but most people are proud, patriotic, hard working
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:58 PM
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37. Yes, and angry....
Nobody's attacking their work ethic or their sense of pride, but to deny that there's a large (and growing) segment of working class America that is angry is naive.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:27 PM
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49. And, I imagine that also means the rest of us....
... are not as proud, patriotic, proud, proud, hardworking or proud as the good folks in Mags' town.

One could have a little more fun with the "elitism" concept than one originally thought. ;-)
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:56 PM
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52. unlike us downtrodden, unpatriotic, lazy big city Americans. We're just
elitists who look down on rural America. :eyes:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:52 PM
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8. Saw a video of her at a huge rally the other day and they loved her

Michelle is a passionate speaker and she is passionate about her country.

I have met her and I had the honor of seeing her speak at UCLA.

Caroline Kennedy, Oprah and Maria Shriver all spoke.

The star of the day was Michelle Obama.

She thrills a crowd.

Believe me now or believe me later. :bounce:

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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:52 PM
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9. Excellent question!
I was kinda wondering, myself, where it came from.

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:52 PM
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10. You forgot in your post
that he kicks puppies and eats kittens. Hates Moms and her fucking apple pie!
might as well go for the gusto if you're going to make up shit...eh?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:58 PM
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14. no need to put words in Obama's mouth, his own are sufficient
we will wait for him to actually say it


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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:22 PM
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56. And what he says is very accurate.
People across this country are pissed. Take a look of B* approval numbers, and the numbers of Americans who feel this country is going in the wrong direction. Obama speaks the truth.

I dont know about you, But I am tired of the bullshit lies.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:54 PM
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12. LOL!!!!!!!
His comments do sound like Michelle


She never tried to hide her attitude towards America, guess BO doesn't at fundraisers
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:54 PM
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13. You folks are really getting desperate and it shows. n/t
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:18 PM
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18. I cannot wait for you to make that big slip
You're going to do it. You're going to go too far. Personally, I think you crossed that threshold months ago.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:25 PM
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24. charmed life
and just clever enough not to repeat her early more obvious shit.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 PM
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Doubtful
There's still an offensive, kinda racist post still standing. And ironically, it contains cries of self-pity for being called a racist.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 PM
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26. Another Obamite making a veiled threat to an Obama critic
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 PM by jackson_dem
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:29 PM
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30. No threat
Just waiting. One can only camouflage for so long. When it happens, it will be obvious.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:30 PM
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32. The dude has been here since 2002
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:31 PM
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33. So?
That proves what?
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:19 PM
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20. hahahahaha I can't stop laughing! Good One!
:toast:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:21 PM
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21. umm. interesting. There is a simularity. yes.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:23 PM
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22. NO - look at this report from someone who was there - it was off the cuff.........
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5473374&mesg_id=5473374

And then go here and check the Blogger out that wrote about this! Some are saying her husband had given HRC 25K donation and it seems fishy after looking at what she has written in the past that she is a true Obama supporter. If true it is going to blow up and it isn't going to be in Obama camp!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/12/15638/8512/891/494398
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 PM
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27. No. What a ridiculous suggestion.
Your mistake is in assuming there is malevolence in speaking the truth.

It is condescending and patronizing for your candidate to pretend to speak for working Americans and tell them they're optimistic.

Plus it's bullshit. Consumer confidence is LOW.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 PM
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28. Maybe it was the product of two decades of hearing his bigoted mentor/pastor?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 PM
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29. No a single "obigot" this time. I'm almost saddened by your cowardice.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:30 PM
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31. For the sake of clarification:
I'm confused. Someone needs to clarify the rules for me.

*Here's what I've heard:

*You can't ever say Obama's middle name.


*You can't repeat what Obama says -- nor try to explain it or put it into context.


*You can't mention Obama's decades-long relationships with pastors, real-estate tycoons, radicals or felons.


*We're supposed to ignore any and all statements and actions Obama has shown with respect to American flag lapel pins, pledging allegiance, or standing attention when the national anthem is played.


*His experience is not supposed to be relevant; only his "soaring rhetoric" and the fact that he's a smooth talker (when on-script, that is).


*We're to believe him when he says talking with terrorists is good for the country.


*And, of course, whenever he or his wife says something that is racist, anti-American, or socialist -- we're to look under rocks and leaves until we can twist it into a Karl Rove plot, or pin it on Senator Hillary Clinton.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:50 PM
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:17 PM
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45. Yep, I saw a B&W movie on the TCM network made in the early 40s
depicting just as you mentioned.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:39 PM
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35. oh,SNAP!
lol..
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:02 PM
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38. Ya think?
Good call.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:02 PM
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39. I dunno. Is it the assistance of President Clinton that explains the lies in Mrs Clinton's speeches?
I'd say you're better than this, but it's too late in the game for that.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:08 PM
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40. THIS POST GOT 10 RECS!!!!!!
Oh my god. For some reason, I find that so pathetic.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:17 PM
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43. The problem lies with your expectations of DUers.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:13 PM
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41. She's made her disdain for working class white America very clear.
Oh, and Wright probably contributed his two bits.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:16 PM
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42. Is Bill now doing Colombian trade deals for Hillary?
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:17 PM
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44. She could. She is brilliant. Someone as unoriginal as Hillary Clinton could use her.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:18 PM
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 07:58 PM
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53. It's my old friend "Name Removed"
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:38 PM
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58. Is Pinocchio doing the speech writing for HRC?
All her newfound fond memories of duck hunting makes one wonder. Oh well, I'm sure it's just another "late night" misspeak.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:29 AM
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60. Stranger things probably happen in that situation. You may have something.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:26 AM
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61. Oh Ben, you are driving me back to CHURCH with your bitterness!
(Most people would have a drink, not go to church or find religion or buy a gun or rant on an immigrant or whatever the fuck Obama thinks he was trying to say that he now is truly sorry for.)

Oh, by the way: SARCASM on the subject line.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:20 AM
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62. I think cynical politcs that uses spin over substance is the sourc of the speech that generates..
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 06:22 AM by cooolandrew
..negative sentiment. Barack has ran a very positive patriotic campaign only cynics and spindoctors would distort that for gain and lust of power. Which is grim in of itself.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:51 AM
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63. How is it that you've suddenly appeared on the scene with 1000+ posts and post nothing but flamebait
?
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