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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:28 AM
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Hillary Clinton Sets Goal Of Cutting Murder Rate In Half
Arlington, Virginia - At a speech in Philadelphia today, Hillary Clinton unveiled an ambitious new anti-crime agenda that would cut the murder rate in big cities in half and put 100,000 new police officers on America’s streets. Through her plan called “Solutions for Safe and Secure Communities Now,” Hillary would also invest $1 billion competitive grant program to reduce the number of repeat offenders and the size of the population in prisons and juvenile lock-ups nationwide. In addition, Hillary will partner with states and communities to support early intervention programs that would prevent at-risk youth from engaging in criminal activity.



“It is a sad day in America when the President can find hundreds of billions of dollars to police another country’s civil war, but cuts funding for police officers right here at home,” said Clinton. “We deserve better. Our mayors like my friend Mayor Nutter shouldn’t be tackling this problem alone. At its core, my agenda is about responsibility. It’s about the federal government living up to its responsibility to help restore order in our communities, pave the way for economic development and new jobs, and help our families feel safe in their homes and neighborhoods.”

Hillary delivered her remarks at the West Philadelphia YMCA, joined by Mayor Michael Nutter, who has made fighting crime a top priority. In Philadelphia, there were 392 murders last year – an average of more than one murder a day. In the plan, Hillary addresses many of the issues that big city mayors confront, including gang violence, drug sales, and illegal gun trafficking. Mayor Douglas Palmer of Trenton, NJ and President of the U.S. Conference of Mayors also joined Hillary at the event.

Hillary also calls for additional funds to stop online crimes such as child exploitation and identity theft. Hillary will direct the Attorney General to make online child exploitation and harassment a major federal priority, and vigorously prosecute identity theft, particularly theft of children’s identities. She will strengthen and vigorously enforce federal laws against online child exploitation, and she will dramatically increase funding for state Internet Crimes Against Children task forces.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:35 AM
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1. Gee, how about getting living wage jobs back into this country so people don't have to
rob and kill other people to survive. Or is that too last century?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:17 AM
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17. She is more progressive on trade than St. Obama
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:47 AM
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25. Define "Progressive" oh anonymous one.
Hillary's "Progress" sounds a lot like the rest of the reality challenged right wing.
Haven't we had enough of that yet?

As others here have noticed, rising crime rates are a symptom. Treat the symptoms and the "need" for more law enforcement will go away, along with the added cost.

Hillary talks about jobs. Has she ever said anything about what kind of jobs or anything about Living Wage jobs so the people don't have to hold two or more jobs or turn to crime to survive?

No? Didn't think so.
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:26 AM
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34. Why Are You So Bitter?
nt
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:37 AM
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2. "its a sad day when..." you vote for a war based on lies, Sen Clinton
sad sad for many families who lost a loved one, or for those
poor souls who were horribly maimed or disfigured.

But you are cackling all the way to the bank.

Its about your ugly huge ego and hunger for power.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:42 AM
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3. After reading how successful her plan to add 200,000 jobs in NY was
I take all her plans with a grain of salt.

She is very much over promise and under deliver.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:45 AM
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4. this is a reintroduction of her husband's successful effort that Bush evicerated
There's not a jurisdiction or mayor who will disagree with this type of initiative. Here, though, it's fodder for cheap political shots.
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LiberalZrule Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:56 AM
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11. I agree
just more rubbish to denigrate Hillary Clinton. Vulgar obama supporters and vulgar hillary supporters go away. You are not helping either candidate with your inane unintelligent drivel. We need civilized discussion of the candidates. Why are there few threads discussing the candidates policies and program initiatives and a whole lot of what they did wrong or how horrible they are? Come on people lets not degenerate into second class republicans. Bashing is what they do. Not us. Not the people's party. Not democrats.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:59 AM
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13. Good economies solve crime.
Good jobs solve crime.

Opportunity solves crime.

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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:19 AM
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30. See my post #28 - it failed before, so why expect it to work now?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:19 AM by usnret88
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:45 AM
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5. From the headline I thought this was an Onion link. It still could be. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:48 AM
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6. Oh! Thank Gawd!
We just don't have enough people in prison!! More! More!

.... but not Shrub, Cheney, Alberto, Donnie, Karl ... or the rest of the cabal who're responsible for more killings than two or three entire SuperMaxes-full of prisoners. Heavens, no! The 'ownership class' gets a pass on mass homicide.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:53 AM
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9. Ya gotta admit, it's gutsy
being against murder and all.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:28 AM
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20. Politically Pavlovian ... ring the bell and the punch-drunk boxers foam at the mouth
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:29 AM by TahitiNut
It's transparent 'wedge issue' crap on steroids. God forbid the rape of the economy get discussed.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:50 AM
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7. Security before FREEDOM AND EDUCATION
Hermann Goering Democrats
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:52 AM
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8. I think she's shown she's capable of multi-tasking
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catcher Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:54 AM
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10. yeah bullshitting and fleecing
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:58 AM
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12. that was witty and lucid
for your 21rst post
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:09 AM
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15. bullshitting, fleecing, lying on the Tarmac of the heart of her Campaign
For all the world to see, but she got run-over by the PLANE TRUTH
as she and her family ran for cover.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:01 AM
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14. Notice the Hermann Goering STRENGTH AND ORDER shit she is doing?
I guess NOT.... Now, do you want to look into the Private Prison system in the US?

AND WHO IS making money out of this as a BUSINESS?

WHEN CRIMINAL 'JUSTICE' is not and never should be a private BUSINESS?

This is her Macho bullshit last chance.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:16 AM
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16. Damn.. I thought she promised to cure Cancer and
And warts
and to make the Palestinians & Israelis kiss on the lips

and to make gasoline 1.00 a gallon..
and personally many every american a banana split
and get us all a brand new car
and build every town 50 new schools


how's she ever gonna have time to do it all :)

(and keep an eye on what Bill's doing downstairs)

I guess she could invent Zipper LoJack™ in her spare time :evilgrin:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:17 AM
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18. three cheers for authoritarianism!
A hundred thousand more police, and an intensification of the war on (some) drugs (like there aren't enough people in prison for nonvioloent drug offences already)...

and wanting to reduce crime is a fine thing and all, but you don't do it with more police, you do it by addressing the underlying social causes of poverty and inequality.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:18 AM
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19. Not the job of a president. n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:23 AM
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32. Yep....
...she is such an ass for pandering like this.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:34 AM
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21. ANY GUN CONTROL WITH THAT ORDER OF BULLSHIT????
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:37 AM
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22. Try to eliminate poverty first Hillary.
Take a page from John Edwards playbook.

Once the poverty level begins to drop, a drop in crime will follow.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:28 AM
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27. Perhaps she thinks its possible to do both at the same time
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:43 AM
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23. What about the troop death rate and the Iraqi civilian death rate?
Oh my bad... their deaths are just gifts of freedom...
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:47 AM
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24. "More police" isn't a big sell where I live
Perhaps it is different elsewhere.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:52 AM
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26. Fix the fucking econonomy
and you'll see the murder rate drop.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:33 AM
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28. It didn't work before, and it probably won't again, and here's why

http://www.slate.com/id/2058553/
<snip>
About one-third of the officers in the count, it should be noted, are not new cops but existing ones—who are theoretically freed from paper-pushing desk jobs to chase crooks, thanks to grants to buy computers and other new equipment. The reality doesn't always match the theory
<snip>
The IG also found evidence that many police departments have no plans to retain new hires once their federal funding runs out.
<more>

And some additional blurbs for your enjoyment

"The president has formed an alliance with the law enforcement officers around this country and experts in fighting crime, passed legislation, over the opposition of Senator Dole and Speaker Gingrich, that is now putting 100,000 extra community police officers on the streets." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96


What actually happened, according to the following statement

"What I am advised is that there are 17,000 officers that can be identified as being on the streets." --Attorney General Janet Reno, media availability, 5/16/96

And not all of the new officers were fighting crime on the streets:

"At least $7.2 million in COPS grants has been used to hire 86 officers for state parks, marinas and other areas seemingly far removed from violent crime." --Investor's Business Daily, 7/16/96




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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:21 AM
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31. crime of every single category, excepting reported sexual assults, went down
each and every year of the Clinton admininstration. That is the total opposite of what happened under Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:46 AM
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29. HC says "Renew the Assault Weapons Ban". The revised AWB she supports would ban semiautomatic
firearms used for self-defense and other purposes such as the ubiquitous Remington model 11-87, one example is below:



That will cost her many votes and indicates the new push by gun-grabbers now that SCOTUS is just two months away from ruling that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right, not a collective right.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:24 AM
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33. Instead of MORE police, how about BETTER police?
What's the use of bringing in more cops, if they're only going to be learning from the bad apples already in place? I don't think we need 100,000 more taser-happy cops.
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