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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:33 AM
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"What Obama Really Meant"! It's the new game that's sweeping the nation!
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:36 AM by indimuse
http://www.correntewire.com/what_obama_really_meant_its_the_new_game_thats_sweeping_the_nation



And best of all, anybody can play! Even, or perhaps especially, Obama campaign operatives! Times:

his aides made a flurry of calls to superdelegates to explain his remarks and to reassure them about his electability. And Mr. Obama told audiences Saturday that what he had said about people’s economic circumstances was true, if in-artfully expressed, but that he was not trying to play down the importance of religion or gun rights.

Heh. For the record, let’s go to the tape:


“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them,” Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Leaving the insults to “small town” voters aside — did Obama “cling to” Reverend Wright? — the worst thing about Obama’s gaffe is that with it, he proves that he has no understanding at all of the voters he’s dealing with. He doesn’t understand their lives, and he doesn’t understand their experience.

Because Obama performs his usual trick—so appealing to his narrow, youthful, uncritical base—of lumping Bush and Clinton together as part of the same past. But for these voters, the Clinton years were a lot better. Clinton’s economic policies were a lot better than Bush’s, and as a result, people were better off, especially as measured by income. As a PA truck driver said: “What don’t you like about Clinton? The peace? Or the prosperity?”

Obama convicts himself, with words right out of his own mouth, of complete ignorance of a huge swath of voters in the American heartland. So, since he doesn’t understand us, why would we trust him to come up with policies that will help us?

The answer, increasingly: We don’t.

And now the Obama campaign is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. And call me crazy, but if I were an automatic delegate, and I got a call from the Obama campaign saying “Don’t worry! My guy is really electable,” well, I just might start worrying — especially if I were one of the downticket Dems that Mr. Hopey “transformed” into a target of opportunity for Republican attacks with his “in-artfully expressed” insults. Heck, if I were counter-suggestible enough, I might even think to myself “If they were all that confident, why’d they even make the call?”

I’m betting there people who aren’t quite as anxious for their Unity Pony to arrive as they thought at first…


<<<snip>>>

Update:: http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012327.php

So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people feel most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...I think they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Sen. Obama obviously sought to distance himself from the false charge that white working class voters are not voting for him because they are racist. However, it is rather hilarious that he used this opportunity to advance the entirely false claim that "everybody" believes that racism in the white working-class is the reason why he is struggling to win their votes. What is most insulting about his statement is that it is Sen. Obama's supporters who have been spreading the destructive meme that working class whites aren't voting for him because they are racist. I'd love to believe that he disagrees with this notion, but when his campaign and supporters have gone out of their way to falsely smear the Clintons as race-baiters or racists (something that egregious fact-challenged jokers like Donna Brazile have been only too happy to propagate) let's say that I am not entirely convinced just yet.

I don't think Oilbama's campaign will survive this. Obama has virtually done himself in. He has proven AGAIN, he is simply electable. The RW will eat him up! Too many vulnerabilities and unknowns...

Oh, and what's with Barack Oilbama's continuous attacks on Bill Clinton? Always dissing his Presidency!! ( how democratic of him...) Obama is so full of himself... what an arrogant fool.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:38 AM
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1. There are a lot of angry, bitter folks out there, believe it or not
and with good cause.

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:44 AM
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7. love your sig line!
Yes, I agree, though I think this will only be more ammunition for RW...it lends it's self to the Hate theme they are slowly stoking.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:52 AM
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34. Thankfully most Americans are smarter than Republicans give them credit for
The Right Wing wants to dish out a "hate" meme because they're desperate to convince white people that people browner than them are out to "get them." It's the "reverse racism" idea that the right has been rubbing frantically for years now - and so far, no sparks for them. I don't think they're going to get any friction from this, no matter how much the Clinton campaign tries to help them with it.

Obama was exactly right on with his comments. People are bitter. They cling tightly to what they have left, which is frankly damn meager. They see little hope in American politics outside the wedge issues - religion, guns.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:41 AM
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2. hey, did you hear the good news?
Another SD for Obama today! The trend is clear. SD endorsements over the past month and more, have overwhelmingly gone for Obama. I thought Hillary Dearest's "big wins" on March 4 were supposed to get those SDs flocking to her! Wow. She only down -2 since then!

:rofl:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:46 AM
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8. good 4 Obama..
he will need them!

REmember..."Trends" come and go ~~~ :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:50 AM
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11.  She needs more of them-
and she won't get them. Not with attacking him in a blatant right wing way using the likes of Grover Norquist. I say, You Go, Girl. Keep alienating SDs!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:06 AM
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15. I think after the vote in PA
we shall know, what is what...but from what I'm reading and hearing, Doesn't look good for Obama.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:11 AM
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17. That's what you've been saying for months
and hilly still hasn't made up any ground. She's still in trouble.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:58 AM
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29. polls are flipping..again.
I don't know...I think this gaffe might grow legs..PA..IN..alot of people were offended. In wake of the Rev Wright expose'...this could be the damaging blow the ends it for Barack. We'll see..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:19 AM
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30. hope lives on in the hearts of hillfans everywhere!
he has teflon. She has none.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:24 AM
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20. Your picture is offensive. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:43 AM
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6. please don't
it's reprehensible to call her that and it only give the hillaryites ammunition.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:49 AM
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9. really??
you are disgusting!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:24 AM
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21. You comment is offensive. nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:47 AM
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28. Link?
:evilgrin:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:43 AM
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5. I like the game: "Hillary's latest lie" myself. It's the classic.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:50 AM
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10. There is no bitterness.
There's no bitterness over empty promises for the last 25 years - by the Bush's and the Clinton's.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:53 AM
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12. correntewire is the gay Taylor Marsh
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 07:54 AM by gaiilonfong
except he dresses better.
He is known in the gay community as Repub-lite....actually he was a log cabin at one time !
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:56 PM
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35. Wha...?

___

The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy, now at my new home: Correntewire.com
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:00 AM
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13. eriposte is a Taylor Marsh CLONE
along with her girlfriend Jeralyn of Talk Left foot in mouth!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:01 AM
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14. Then it's briefly replacing the "What Lie Will Hillary Tell Today" game. nt
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:09 AM
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16. NO..
Obama is a masterful liar. A 'Liar Savant'. Soon all will be revealed. The MSM is getting antsy.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:15 AM
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19. Or maybe the Hillary "Sniper Fire" game. That's always fun.
:rofl:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:40 AM
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26. did he or didn't Barack attend
politically and hateful services during Rev Wright's rants... No . ~ Obama Yes. ~ Obama


well, I have video...which proves Obama a HUGE lIAR and MORE!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:45 AM
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27. I've got a new game: "Pathetic."
You just won a round by making the most pathetic argument so far.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:34 AM
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24. Really
They've just been sitting in wait for 15 months

Unlike her husband Hillary is a bad liar.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:13 AM
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18. I prefer the COUNT HILLARY'S LIES GAME. It's much more lively. NT
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:33 AM
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23. That game is like Risk and Monopoly
Takes hours to play...better clear away an afternoon for that one.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:35 AM
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25. LOL!
:thumbsup:
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:27 AM
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22. I love how Obama supporters keep on truckin' even after Obama apologizes for his comments.
If Obama apologized don't you think they'd agree with their Deity?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:37 AM
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32. So, he should have lied about them -- or had his wife come out and bully reporters?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:36 AM
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31. Here's a better game
What did Hillary really say? Of course, so much depends on what day it is.

As Hillary has morphed into Mitt Romney in a pant suit, it's getting harder and harder to keep track. First, she was Rambo, then she was Rocky. Now, apparently, she's a mixture of Annie Oakley and Davey Crockett, embracing guns and killing small defenseless animals for fun.

Maybe Obama didn't choose the best words, but I'd rather have someone tell me what they really think and tell me the truth -- even in the wording is a little clumsy -- than tell me provable lies finely honed by one of the most despicable public relations firms in the Western hemisphere.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:23 AM
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33. Thanks, I was looking for the original remark because it's been transformed
into Obama's saying the American people are fed-up or angry. But we already had that candidate - Edwards - and Obama helped throw him under the bus. We didn't want an "angry" candidate.

It's clear in context that Obama was saying something else: "And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

At best he is calling them misguided. They "cling" to their beliefs"as a way to explain their frustrations." He has other explanations? People are anti-trade because_______? People are anti-immigrant because______? They - those typical white people - cling to their religion to explain their frustration? But black religion is a deep and abiding part of their culture?

Funny how that word "bitter" keeps coming up. KO used it when he threw the Clintons under the bus. Obama used it when he divided the Democratic party into the bitter past and the hopeful future. His supporters are making it synonymous now with being angry, but Obama ran AGAINST that. He ran on being so about hope and a new politics that republicans were simply transformed by the change.

No, I don't think Obama should be allowed to slough this off to saying people are angry with their government. His remarks truly were not about that.




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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:57 PM
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36. LOL
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 03:58 PM
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37. He meant: Let the bitter peasants eat arugula!
Or Belgian endive, if Whole Foods is out.
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