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IowaGirl Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:41 AM
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An Open Letter to Senator Obama.....
This letter is so moving. (In the Pajama Media)http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/open-letter-to-senator-obama/

"Filmmaker Lionel Chetwynd thinks Barack Obama got it backwards in his March 18th speech on race, when the presidential candidate urged us to take the extreme statements of Reverend Wright in “context.” Writes Chetwynd: “That is the teaching opportunity I hoped you would evoke: not explaining Wright’s outrage to me, but explaining his outrageousness to him.”'

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"You say you are devoted to Reverend Wright because he brought you to Christ. I can only imagine how powerful a relationship that forges. But, my imperfect understanding of the Christian Faith tells me you can do him an equally magnificent service: You can help bring him back to Christ. Show him redemption and salvation lie not in the satisfaction of doing little dances in a pulpit while you slander good and decent people. Teach him that great leadership and Christian love abjures the very filth – and I pick that word deliberately – that he spews on an apparently regular basis. After all, Senator, you know our government did not invent the HIV virus to kill African-Americans. You know, Senator, this is not the United States of KKK America. You know the truth of 9/11. At least you should. Both you and Michelle have benefited mightily from the new spirit that has come to America in the last two generations. I thought you were part of that. I thought you were post-racial."

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:48 AM
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1. A Letter sent to Lanny Davis after his Op-Ed attacking Obama on Wright.
Message from Jeh Johnson:

Lanny-

I write this for myself, and not as a representative of Barack Obama or his campaign. I was prompted to write you when I saw your question “Why did he stay a member of that congregation?”

I think much of the debate over Rev. Wright and his statements overlooks the unique role of the black church in the black community. I’ve never been to Trinity in Chicago, but I’ve been to many churches like Trinity. Historically, the black church is the one place for blacks free of any white influence, something blacks can call all their own. It’s the fraternity, the funeral director, the marriage counselor, the lawyer, the tax preparer, the therapist, the AA anonymous. Black churches such as Trinity are often the center of the black community, the one place where people of different economic classes come together to see each other, worship God, engage in community service and outreach, and it is about much more than the pastor.

I am not biracial and I did not grow up in Hawaii. I did grow up in an overwhelmingly white community, and was constantly plagued by my minority status. I had no place to turn to find my own identity. My parents then had the wisdom and good sense to send me to Dr. King’s alma mater, Morehouse College in southwest Atlanta, the only all-male black college left in the country, and that four-year experience basically made me who I am today.

While there, I started attending the Baptist church across the street (though I am an Episcopalian). It was a real, down-home black church. My very first reaction to it was shock and slight amusement. The pastor was often over the top in his sermons, and he drove a Mercedes despite his poor congregation. I would listen to the good Rev. and often disagreed with much of his overheated rhetoric, but I kept going back to this church.

Why did I do that? For the first time in my life I felt like a full participant in the black experience, with no conditions. No one questioned who I was, where I came from, what I had done before to prove my blackness. There was just an elderly lady with a big smile at the door who handed me a program and said “God bless you son.”

While there I witnessed poor and uneducated black people shake off misery, poverty, addiction, alcoholism, death, sickness, relatives in jail and all the other stuff that makes life challenging in the big city. Women in white uniforms walked the aisle to catch people as they passed out from it all. During the service, a deacon or someone else would describe all the different church-related activities for outreach, helping someone who had lost a job, or visiting the sick and shut-in who could not make it to church.

On the way out, someone else would say “come back again and see us young man” though they didn’t know me at all. By attending that church, I felt part of the community around me, and it was quite uplifting on Sunday after I went back to the books. Barack has never explained it this way, but I suspect given the way he was raised he felt some of the same things when he first started attending Trinity, and why he found a home there.

In the course of my own life, I have encountered many very militant and angry elements of the black community, much of them as formative for me as the large corporate law firm in which I am now a partner, the Clinton Administration, or growing up in Wappingers Falls, New York. But, it would be an act of sheer hypocrisy for me to try to renounce any of this. For example, at Morehouse many educated teachers and invited speakers blasted the white man, black men who acted like the white man, and condemned our whole society as fatally racist.

When I graduated in 1979, Louis Farrakhan was our baccalaureate speaker and Joshua Nkomo, leader of the armed struggle to liberate Zimbabwe, was our commencement speaker. With Coretta Scott King sitting near the front row, I vividly recall Nkomo preaching “the only thing the white man understands is the barrel of a gun.” I certainly didn’t agree with that then, and I don’t now. But I love Morehouse and would rather quit all involvement in public affairs before I had to sever my ties of support to the school. Morehouse is part of what makes me a proud African-American.

A good friend to me from my parent’s generation, a retired ivy-league professor who is like an uncle to me, was branded a dangerous radical and subversive by our government in the 1960s. J. Edgar Hoover wiretapped his conversations with Dr. King. But, if someone combed his books and found something he wrote with which I disagreed, I’d rather disassociate myself from my right arm than publicly renounce this man.

The reality is this: Those of us who participate in both the white and African-American experiences will very likely have a Jeremiah Wright in our lives - it could be our teacher, our uncle, our brother, our father, or our pastor. It is simply part of the American experience.

But, here I am, a patriot who - I can honestly say - harbors no “anger” or racial animosity toward anybody, including my white law partners, my white neighbors, or my white family members. I can’t guarantee much about anything in life, but I can guarantee, from what I know about Barack Obama, that he feels the same in his heart and soul.

- E-mail from Jeh Johnson, a lawyer and Obama supporter, sent to Lanny Davis

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:35 AM
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15. Very nice.
:thumbsup:
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:49 AM
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2. little green football anyone?
why in the world would you call a blog at pajamasmedia 'moving' and expect anybody here to even follow the link?

those guys ooze hatred
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:53 AM
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20. Exactly! Parroting shit from a place run by...
...the asshole who runs “Little Green Footballs”—the righy-wing's leading hate site?

“Moving”?


Someone should “move” a tombstone right over the OP's empty fucking head.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:50 AM
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3. Lionel Chetwynd? You couldn't find somebody more obscure?
I read his "letter" and understand his point, but I don't agree.

...and why in the world would anybody take special notice of what Lionel Chetwynd thinks?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:53 AM
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4. ROFL... Lionel Chetwynd wrote "DC 9/11: Time of Crisis"!!!!!!
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:59 AM by VolcanoJen
Good Gawd, IowaGirl, that is rich! This has to be the most unintentionally hilarious thread of the day!



Some of his other works:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0156417/

"The Hanoi Hilton" (wonder who he's voting for in November?)
"Siege at Ruby Ridge"
"Kissinger and Nixon"

:rofl:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:10 AM
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12. Ruby Ridge?
Oh boy. This isn't one of the mild crazies...he's from the McVeigh wing of the party.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:53 AM
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5. A link to the right wing Pajamas Media blog. Really?
Your bias makes you beyond ridiculous.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:56 AM
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6. Does that letter come with a whole set of sheets? n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:59 AM
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7. Lionel Chetwynd is a big rightwingnut. He wrote and produced a "rebuttal"
film to "Fahrenheit 9/11" called "Celsius 41.11"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsius_41.11

Celsius 41.11 (2004) is a film produced to be a rebuttal to Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11. 41.11 was chosen because, according to the makers of the movie, it is the temperature at which the brain begins to die.

The film criticizes 2004 Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry. The documentary was released during the run-up to the 2004 United States Presidential general election.

Look at this cast!

* Fred Thompson
* Charles Krauthammer
* Michael Ledeen
* Mansoor Ijaz
* Michael Barone
* Michael Medved
* Fred Barnes
* Joshua Muravchik
* Barbara Comstock
* Victoria Toensing
* Bill Sammon
* John O'Neill
* Alice Fisher


Also:

In 2001, Lionel Chetwynd was appointed by President George W. Bush to serve on the President's Committee on the Arts and Humanities. In 2003, Chetwynd wrote and produced DC 9/11: Time of Crisis, a docudrama for Showtime Networks recounting the nine days in the Bush administration between the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon and the president’s televised address to the nation before Congress.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:03 AM
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8. Wow
Did an email go out from the Clinton campaign with links to all the right wing blogs to her followers?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:05 AM
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10. They sent out Grover Norquist quotes yesterday, so it's not so farfetched. NT
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:04 AM
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9. I guess the DU rule banning RW news sources is out the window.
NGU.


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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:53 AM
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21. actually it apparently litetrally is
I looked for it about 2 weeks ago to post a thread asking for it to be enforced and searched in vain.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:06 AM
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11. You know you seem to like hate sites so much....
...I am sure that if you google for them, you could find a whole list of links. Why don't you do that and go there and spare DU your vomit?

Just a thought....
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:13 AM
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13. Now, the opinions of Reagan supporters are okey dokey
He can go fuck himself.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:16 AM
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14. And now it's verified...
People are citing Pajamas Media as a source to back their candidates here? Lionel Chetwynd? One of the biggest blowhard wingnuts in Hollywood? He directed and produced that horrific puff-piece movie on the “heroic” Bush's actions on 9-11, and is a big time freeper.

Just when I think this place can go no lower...
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:37 AM
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16. Lionel Chetwynd doesn't get it and never will.
:thumbsdown:
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:40 AM
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17. Maybe you should add to your profile
Posting hatchet jobs from Rightwing whack jobs.

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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:40 AM
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18. They didn't even consider making a gay bomb either. Right ok. Not there is anything wrong with being
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:41 AM by cooolandrew
gay. But there is trying chemically regenerate people.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:48 AM
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19. a comment from the website

Forget the politics for a moment and look at the effects of the religion on the community. Has no one considered that it’s not a coincidence that so many young black men end up incarcerated if they spend Sundays sitting in church — church of all places, where they surely never question the truth of what they are hearing — listening to the vilest hatred, being told they’ll never get a fair break, having their anger constantly inflamed? Is it any wonder they do stupid stuff when they leave? That so few of them manage to commit themselves to the things that will make them successful?

What about the supposed “Great Racial Divide” in this country? How suprised can we be that African Americans that attend such churches and listen to such preachers assume that all white Americans are prejudiced? If they’re willingly hearing that on Sundays, what must they convince themselves the whites are listening to? If they believe that stuff, even a little bit, what do they tell themselves the white people believe? It would be easy to excuse it as being a way that people are coping with the stress of bigotry in their everyday lives, but I live in a majority African American city, in a majority African American county, where all of the positions of power are held by African Americans and where many neighborhoods are exclusively African American, yet such churches and such preachers are very common here. The permission to hate is very seductive.

Lastly, I don’t know how it is in Chicago, but I’m from the South, and G-D America? G-D anything?! A preacher saying that! Encouraging Young people to sing it? Other preachers calling it a mild profanity?! Please no. I’m not sure what sophistry convinced them that wasn’t taking the Lord’s name in vain, but that’s not one of the commandments that preachers want to be skirting the ragged edge on. Long after questions of Barack Obama’s patriotism are moot, preachers in the black community are going to be trying to teach young people to fear the Lord, because you can’t teach them anything if you can’t teach them that, and this sets that back. Way back.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:54 AM
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22. this source is unacceptable
It would be like getting a temperance lecture from Limbaugh.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:11 AM
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23. Pajamas Media?
You should really check your sources before you post on DU
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:14 AM
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24. “She” knew exactly who “she” was sourcing from. n/t
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:53 PM
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27. It seems they have no other avenue to attack from
:shrug: than to use right wing -- and in this case, neoconservative -- sources
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:15 AM
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25. Oh, for fuck's sake. n/t
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:17 AM
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26. No, the favor he can, and tired to do, it to show what Wright said is right.
All except the HIV stuff. America will be damned and to black people it does look like the KKK America.

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