Was there "reaching out" to supporters of other candidates by HRC supporters just a few months ago?

[sniffa]

The recurring theme here since it became obvious that Obama was going to be the nominee, is that his supporters are just so damn nasty, and that they need to reach out to the HRC supporters, because he's going to need them in the fall. That theme has been ratcheted up to 11 in recent weeks, and with more of a nasty tone than in the beginning.

I have to say, when Clinton was inevitable prior to the new year, I didn't see any sort of "reaching out" here. I saw repetitive posting of polls, and an attitude of, "get used to it" and an assumption that everyone will fall in line because you're Democrats.

When she lost Iowa, the trend continued: repetitive posting of polls, self-assurance that Iowa is just a blip, and that everyone will fall in line because they're Democrats. There was no attempt to reach out to Biden and Dodd supporters.

When she won NH, the volume went back up to 11 - she's now back on track, and nothing will stop her. There was no attempt to reach out to Richardson supporters.

When Kucinich dropped out, there was no reaching out to his supporters.

When Edwards dropped out, there was no reaching out to his supporters.

After Super Tuesday, when she didn't seal the deal, and the bleak news that her campaign was teetering on bankruptcy, the volume did go down a notch, and only a few clung to the posting of polls as proof that she's still going to win.

Now that we're in April, the volume is back to 11, and it's stuck on the theme that not Obama, but his supporters need to reach out to HRC supporters. If we don't, then we shouldn't expect them to fall in line as the supporters of other candidates were told to for months. There are some HRC supporters who claim they'll never vote for Obama, and that's their right; some even claim they'll vote for McCain (that's actually an organized strategy on some other sites) and again, that's their right. There are some (I'd hope most) who claim they'll gladly vote for Obama because McCain would be a disaster, and that too, is their right.

My point is: it's your vote. Vote, or not vote however you please, but don't expect the courtesy that was rarely extended to supporters of other candidates to automatically be extended to you. It's your vote, it's your donations, it's your volunteerism and you're all adult enough to choose your own path, whether someone offers you a pony or not.

Signed - a former Kucinich/Dodd, sorta Edwards before he dropped out, now firmly Obama supporter.

[ruggerson]

1. Since you're one of the most egregious

violaters of civility here, your words are laughable.

And btw, there was indeed "reaching out" to Edwards supporters here from Hillary's crowd.

[sniffa]

11. And I value your opinion

or not. :hi:

[ruggerson]

12. This puts the lie to your OP

and this is just one of among many posts reaching out to Edwards, Biden and Kucinich supporters. From both Hillary and Obama people.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4495160

[sniffa]

13. Good for you

:hug:

[ruggerson]

14. Not about

me sniffa. It's about the fact that your OP is untrue.

[sniffa]

18. Yes, and I'm one of the most uncivil DUers here

I <3 u
:loveya:

[UALRBSofL]

23. ruggerson, I can't understand sniffa's train of thought

The Hillary campaign has always reached out to everyone and she does not label them Kucinich supporters, Edwards supporters; she labels them Americans. Americans ready for change from the Bush dictatorship, a regime that is about "do as I say".

I have never seen a civil thread started by sniffa. He is just a divisive poster on DU. He is a very bitter person like many Obama supporters, but, not all are bitter.

That said, the best way to win someone over is through showing concern, acceptance of that person's beliefs and ideals and allowing them to understand that Hillary is about a melting pot of people from all walks of life.

Don't let him get you down. People like that are miserable and want everyone else around them, whether in real life or on the internet to be miserable with them. :)

[sniffa]

24. ...

:hug:

[JVS]

25. It's time to reach out to them. With a big Shit Sandwich!

[sniffa]

28. That's a good option

:thumbsup:

[Lisa0825]

2. You nailed it!

The Hillary supporters here were really rude, insulting, and downright viscious here when she was "inevitable." It always gives me a chuckle when one of them blames all the negativity on Obama supporters, and then their group all chimes in to agree and vote the post up.

[LiberalZrule]

7. You should amend

your statement that "Some" of hillary supporters here were reayly rude and insulting. I am a hIllary supporter and have not been rude insulting and viscious. The same could be applied to some obama supporters here on DU and since there are more Obama supporters here the margin of offensive obama supporters is larger than offensive hillary supporters.

[sniffa]

8. Very true

My OP is not meant to encompass everyone, but specifically, a certain segment.

You are correct though, it's some, not all (of any side).

[TheWraith]

9. And we appreciate your civility.

The worst offenders are a handful of the HillaryClintonForum types, who go out of their way to try and embitter and demoralize all opponents. During their weeklong boycott of DU, there was actually a degree of rational discussion.

[LiberalZrule]

10. In light of

that I am ashamed they are hillary supporters. Boybotting a democrat forum because they dont like Obama? That is absurd and they should just go join the Republican party because that does nothing but divide us and make republicans stronger. Mccain must be laughing his ass of right now at our behavior toward each other.

[cooolandrew]

3. To be honest people are grown adults if they gravitate to a candidate then vote for them,if not dont

We are just voters on here mostly it isn't our place to earn any votes, if Obama has run a cleaner campaign and you respect that vote if not don't if Hillary has vote for her. Although if a Democrat as everyone should be on this board we would expect that the nominee has our support.

[cooolandrew]

5. Remember we are on "Democratic underground" that is why the assumption is the nominee has support.

So I agree it is not unreasonable to expect that folks on a Democratic board will fall in line. Hopefully we all do what we say on the tin.

[sniffa]

6. As I said in my OP

Do what you wish. If you don't want to support the nominee, that's your right. You don't need the crutch of not being reached out to, to not support the nominee. Stand on your own two feet and make the decision yourself.

[Bluebear]

4. OMG sniffa.

[JVS]

15. What you post is so very true!

[sniffa]

21. Thanks

It's kinda tiresome to see that posted over and over. Just go ahead and undermine the nominee, as your mind is already made up to do so, and don't blame others for it. If McCain wins, blame yourself, not Obama supporters. If Obama wins in spite of it, then oh well, you didn't try hard enough to get McCain elected. :hi:

[bettyellen]

16. i honestly think reaching out can't ever happen round here- because it's all a game to some

winner take all or some such immature tit for tat bullshit. i honestly don't think a lot of the obama fans round here could be expected to actually even stop the over the top 24/7 nastiness against both Clintons (and truthfully all Dems who came before Obama). but i think that's because a lot of them are trolls. (or only bothering to vote because they like BO) they seem to be egging on a lot of normally nice people (like the one who called me a fatass yesterday- she used to be sane, and decent and has become a raving fucking lunatic) to new heights of nastiness. all i can say is, i'm glad my state is going blue without me, because without me is the likeliest scenario at the moment. i find all this hyperbolic there never was a dem as good as obama (except for those endorsing him) shit on history get out of the way minimally informed crap. it's all tiresome bluster, so yeah. i'm with you, anyone who expects a hand extended is tripping.

[sniffa]

20. As I said

We're all adults, and we make our own choices. You vote, donate, and volunteer as you please (or not to as well). You don't need another candidate's supporters to help you make that decision - if that's the case, then you're using them as a crutch for your own decision.

I've made my own peaceful DU experience in GDP. I started doing so on Feb. 7, and have encouraged others to do the same. Once the primary is over, the i-lists can be emptied. It helps my sanity, and helps me to refrain from racking up deleted messages.

And you are definitely not a fat ass. :loveya:

[bigtree]

17. you should be able to count on the opposition supporter's votes

But the nominee could also use their organization and other support, which may be lacking because of a distance some may feel from the Obama camp. I think you're fine to hold your view, of course, but I think it's short-sighted.

[bettyellen]

19. this will be the first itme not volunteering to help in a presidntial in a looong time.

can't do it. and i like obama. and i know a lot of his fans will say "so what" but, yeah short sighted is a nice way of phrasing it.
our nominee will need the help, and suffer from the losses. the trolls are getting what they want, but lots of dems are helping them.
not too bright.

[sniffa]

22. Let me reach out to the poster at the top of GDP right now

He deserves it.

[Major Hogwash]

26. Not only that, but then they started lying about who were the worst offenders here!

And that wasn't right, at all.

How can the people who have been calling other DU members that are Obama supporters at DU all kinds of names, calling us cultists, etc, not be on temporary timeout?

Damn, that's what time outs are for - to make them think what they did wrong, and give them a chance to apologize later for it.

That makes no sense to me at all.

[bridgit]

27. hahahaha, i see sniffa "reaching out"...i clutch what money i have left...

like a game winning super-bowl football on the one yard line, 1st & goal to go :spray:

[NC_Nurse]

29. So true. I remember MANY a thread about how Hillary was GOING to be the

nominee - so GET USED TO IT! It was quite annoying. Now there's a bunch of whining about how mean Obama supporters are.
Whatever. There are jerks on both sides and WHY the hell would you let them influence you one way or another? Seems like a
silly reason to vote for either candidate. Every candidate has supporters who don't reflect well on them, oh fuckin' well.

My ignore list keeps growing, but I feel so much better not listening to the baiting anymore. Nice post. :pals: