Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Bitter Herbs

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:44 PM
Original message
The Bitter Herbs
This week, Jews around the world will sit down together to celebrate Passover with the first Sedar, a meal as heavy with symbolism as it is with food. The most symbolic ingredients are the Maror, the bitter herbs, usually some manifestation of horseradish bound to clear the sinuses of every living being for miles around. The bitter herbs stand as a reminder of the bitter hardship under Egyptian, combined with haroset (a fruit and nut concotion) and slathered onto pieces of matzah that are made into a sandwich (Korech), becoming the bricks and mortar used to build for their masters.

The memory of that bitterness is central to Passover; it is a remnant of the longing for freedom and the emancipation found in religion. Obama said that "they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy". Interpreting his words depends on how you interpret "clings". But at least in one instance, you cannot say that bitterness is not a motivation for religion. It's there, in the text of the Bible itself. It would be quite condescending to assume that our spirituality ought always be a product of high-mindedness. Indeed, much of the religion is rooted in the hardships of everyday life--a sanctuary therefrom.

As a somewhat spiritual person, I am confused as to why people would take umbrage at Obama's statement. Perhaps most won't understand it, and will withdraw votes in future elections. But to criticize it is to criticize some of the fundamental experiences of Christianity and Judaism. It's as if the people who are offended have never themselves read the Bible. (For that matter, Wright's statements were perfectly in line with the books of prophecy.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
1. Interesting point, and thought-provoking.
It seems those of us with any strains of religion in our backgrounds all resonate to this in some way - just as Barack Obama described.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Thanks
I think this is hard to remember when are culture has become accustomed to "holding up the cross" just as it "waves the flag."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. And unfortunately, our culture doesn't really understand what those concepts
mean anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 AM
Response to Original message
4. thanks for a thoughtful analysis!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC