Fight the lie with the truth...... that's all it takes. Let Hillary/McCain lie and distort

[TLM]

All they can do is lie and distort what Obama said, because what he actually said most folks agree is true, honest, and accurate.


This is the current process for the clear and willful lies on the part of the Hillary/McCain team of Obama haters:

Step 1; Take his quote about wedge issue voters being bitter at government, and leave out the government part... in order to distort what he said and act as if he was saying all rural folks are bitter in general.

Step 2; Leave out the part where he's talking about wedge issue voting... in order to distort what he said and act as if he was speaking about anybody who owns a gun or goes to church.

Step 3; Plug ears, accuse obama of being a condescending elitist, express poutrage, and repeat.

Step 4; Most important, if somebody posts the full transcript that shows you are clearly lying, start a new thread continuing the same attack with the same distortions and lies. Maybe quote a hillary supporter saying obama and his supporters are limousine liberals or out of touch elitists... and try to pass it off as voter sentiment.



The simple fact is that Obama was talking about wedge issue voters being bitter towards government and politics... the transcript proves this beyond any argument. Which is why the haters run from the transcript and start new threads once it is posted in their attack thread.

The fact they have to lie to spin these comments as something else, shows how weak, desperate, and dishonest Hi-LIE-ry and her supporters have become.


The Hillary/McCain team think PA voters are so stupid they'll believe Obama was talking about anybody who goes to church or owns a gun, when he was clearly talking about wedge issues voters and why they vote on wedge issues. They think PA voters are too stupid to bother reading the whole statement to see the context for themselves.

They think PA voters like being told they are dumb and that they need Hillary to tell them when they should be offended.

And apparently they think rural voters will respond to someone who made 109 million last year telling them that everything is fine and they are not angry or frustrated with government.... and anybody who says otherwise is elitist.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

Full transcript:

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people feel most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...I think they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter).

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What's the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- close tax loopholes, roll back, you know, the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American. So we'll go down a series of talking points.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

[gateley]

1. I hope Obama's getting an earful

from those of us who TOTALLY support and appreciate what he said.

I'm dying for this to come up in the debate -- and I hope he brings it home hard.

I wish he wouldn't have demurred that perhaps he could have chosen his words more carefully. He was right on target with millions and millions of Americans.

[Nitrogenica]

3. I can't wait for that debate. Today, for the first time, I am confident her campaign is over.

[TLM]

4. Iagree he could have worded it more clearly....

And said cling to "issues" like guns etc.

But that's not for the sake of clarification as much as it is about making it harder for Hillary to distort what he said and lie about it.

The context makes it clear that he is talking about wedge issues... which is why the haters have to cut that context out.

With Hillary using rove tactics, Obama not only has to focus on getting his message out, but on wording his message in a way that makes i more difficult for Hillary to distort his words and lie/spin what he said.

[leftofcool]

2. it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then th

He implies that PA'er are racist. He then says that people "cling to their guns and religion because they are bitter." They are also "anti-immigrant and show antipathy to people who are not like them" All of this said about rural folks while at a dinner with rich folks. But if you think it's all okay, go for it.

[TLM]

5. The quoted context shows you are lying....

If you are OK with using RW distortion tactics, it shows how weak your position really is... desperation.


There's no implication of racism.... there is a flat out statement that rural voters don't trust politicians or government.

But hey keep grasping at straws and cherry picking half sentences, because it is reassuring for people to see clearly... that's all you've got left.

[leftofcool]

6. Maybe we should let the PA voters decide