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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:59 PM
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What's better:
1.) Being direct and honest about how you will help poor people, i.e. what you will do concretely to make their lives less desperate, or,
2.) Pandering to elitist rich people by disrespecting the poor behind their backs, calling them bitter church goers and gun users.

I think Obama chose option #2. Hey, maybe he thought by pandering to the rich he could ultimately give to the poor, ala Robin Hood. :shrug:
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:00 PM
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1. I don't think he did, in fact I know he didn't.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 04:01 PM by Levgreee
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:01 PM
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3. God, is that you?
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:02 PM
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4. no, but I'm someone who actually looks at context, and has reading comprehension
reading at higher than an 8th grade reading level isn't being a "God". Maybe in your mind.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:00 PM
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2. The Robin Hood Theory
I like it
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:04 PM
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5. What's worse is being such a low life scum as to use repuke talking points
and destroy the democratic party and the country in a self centered, self serving and eventually futile attempt to seize power for herself
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:05 PM
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6. Hey, did you get the memo?
THIS IS A PRIMARY!! :wow:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:06 PM
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8. Yes it's not a street fight. She has EARNED my scorn
She earned it by ignoring ethical and moral considerations in her lust for power.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:08 PM
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12. Lol, and BO is just a poor waif hoping and praying silently for the nomination nod!
:rofl:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:10 PM
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18. She is a DINO that would make the world forget just how back
georgie boy was, if she ever manages to scheme her way to power.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:10 PM
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16. So in order to run in a primary you don't have to care about the
Dem party? OK, got it. :eyes:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:11 PM
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19. Yes according to some it's GOOD to destroy the party
and let the Repukes win the election
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:05 PM
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7. disgusting post !!!!!!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:07 PM
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9. Yes, lets not speak the truth, lets lie and let them eat cake
People are bitter. I am the middle class, and fuck yes I'm bitter, to ignore that fact is crazy.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:10 PM
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17. But, what happened to all the HOPE?
I thought it was all about H-O-P-E, YES WE CAN, blablablabla:boring:blablablabla. Now it's all about BITTER. I am so confused.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:28 PM
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25. Its the hope that the government CAN work for the people, instead of against them
for reference, see NAFTA
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:34 PM
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26. Yes, you are a truly "confused" individual.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:07 PM
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10. HIllary has a promise for everyone and everybody to get the nomination
But if she was to be elected she will not know the folks she made promises too. She will say, even lie, do anything to get the nomination and elected. Hill was fired early in her carrier from the impeach Nixon committee for lying.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:08 PM
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11. Ridiculous framing to get the answer you want is better
You should have made it a poll.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:08 PM
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13. Or, totally distorting the facts?
Jeesh. Distort much?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:09 PM
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14. I dunno. That fits perfectly the descripton of the poor white folks I know.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 04:11 PM by cliffordu
could be that the 'LEETISTS in the Hillary camp don't know what the fuck they're talking about....

I mean, since she opposed NAFTA and all.....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5475939


Not elitist in the least....



:rofl:


:patriot:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:10 PM
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15. Well, both have done neither.
Hillary took option 3,which is call your opponent elitist and foreign to "Rural Values." That has nothing to do with issues, mind.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:13 PM
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20. boomerang is a bitch..
and I can already feel it coming. Have fun with it while you can. What are you re-cycling next? Obama is a black man? Obama is a Muslim? Are you going to run a few excerpts from some other preachers sermon? Maybe you can find another kindergarten essay?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:17 PM
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23. Depends on what kind of gaffs come out of his campaign!
Bring it on! :bounce:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:03 PM
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27. Gaffs?
We all know what lies are and what happens when politicians tell lies. But a "gaff'? what's a 'gaff'?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:15 PM
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21. Obama told the truth.
Why is that so difficult to understand?

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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:18 PM
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24. I don't know. I'm sure you will be whining that after he loses by 10 points in November.
But.. But.. how it it soooo... difficult... to understand....
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:17 PM
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22. All Clinton has done is have those $1000/plate fundraisers with the wealthy
where each of the attendees maxes out at $4300, while she tells the poor to "roll up their sleeves" and don't worry be happy. Just like Reagan told the poor to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" because "prosperity was just around the corner!".

Same message because Clintons = DLC = RW = Republicans.
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