It's the accumulted effect of Obama's faux pases and revelations that are sinking his candidacy.

[ginchinchili]

There were the revelations about Rev. Wright, Obama's father figure; there was Michelle's comment about never being proud of America until Obama did well in Iowa; there was Michelle's ethnocentric, black power college dissertation; there's the clip of Obama standing with his arms at his side while everyone else has theirs on their hearts during the playing of the national anthem; there was Obama's reference to his grandmother as being a "typical white woman." With each revelation a more detailed picture of Obama being a ethnocentric, elitist is emerging. The furthest Obama can reach now is winning the nomination, giving the presidency to the Republicans. He'll never be president. He just can't keep his true thoughts hidden. They keep slipping out. The Democrats made a big mistake banking on this guy. He just doesn't represent enough Americans, and even he would probably agree privately that he has little in common with most Americans, and is probably proud of it.

[countingbluecars]

1. I think you have most

of the republican talking points covered there. Way to go.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. unfortunately, that is who he will be running against.

:shrug: :yoiks:

[Voice for Peace]

20. But you're forgetting who he's going to be running WITH....

... a majority of the voters.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. let us hope

no pun intended.

[bbinacan]

4. The OP makes a good point

because you can bet the Republiks will use each and everyone of these talking points. Ad nauseum.

[bvar22]

67. So what?

The Hillary campaign has already used all of those ad nauseum.
Didn't work for Hillary.....won't work for McCain.

Obama can thank Hillary for making all of this "old news".

[ginchinchili]

12. Exactly what Tuesday Afternoon states in her/his post.

Sticking your head in the sand is no way to win. Obama keeps handing the Republicans more and more ammunition to use against him, and it's the kind that works in this country. It's hard to imagine how Obama wins the presidency at this point, that is if you're thinking objectively and haven't drank the Obama Koolaid.

[Fridays Child]

15. Wait a minute. We should go over them just to be sure.

Let's see:

GOP Talking Points

Obama = scary black dude

Obama = scary black dude

Obama = scary black dude

Obama = scary black dude

Obama = scary black dude

Yep. I'd say that the OP covers it pretty well.

[Johnny Battleground]

89. You can't hide the 10,000 pound elephant...

Thinking the opposition and swing voters don't notice is what is going to nuke the party... again.
This election isn't in a vacuum, and our candidates haven't been vetted early enough.
Wright just added to the burden as well. It'd be nice if he kept his mouth shut and went away.
Obama wasn't challenged early and now we have damaged goods leading thus far.
It ain't over... I hope someone else gets the nomination. Hillary is better.
At least she knows how to play hardball.

[anonymous171]

3. lol.

Wright. :rofl:

[GarbagemanLB]

5. naftagate, colombiagate, cacklegate, snipergate, donorgate, and the fact that she has enormous

negatives...yeah, Hillary is the better candidate clearly!

:sarcasm:

[PBS Poll-435]

6. According to Rasmussen...

They have the same favorable/unfavorables.

[GarbagemanLB]

11. According to Gallup, he is ahead of her by 9 points...

[PBS Poll-435]

21. We were talking about negatives...

right? :shrug:

[GarbagemanLB]

Sure. Please make a thread about his negatives a week from now.

[cliffordu]

18. And let's not forget "Billspeakingfor huge$$$$gate..."

all that looks like influence pandering/selling to me....

But I wouldn't know, never having been paid $800,000 to speak.

[JeffR]

7. I keep wondering who hijacked your DU account

because the person who originally posted under your handle used to contribute a lot to discussion here, as opposed to offering up these worn-out talking points.

[RC]

28. And I was thinking I will be glad when Monday get here so the kids

will be back in school and not harassing the adults.

[cali]

bwahaha. OK, Karnac.

you hillbotz are a riot with your endless poop playing.

[KamaAina]

8. Funny, despite the "accumulted" effect of all these "faux pases", Obama is close to the nomination.

Not shabby for "a ethnocentric, elitist". :P

[ginchinchili]

17. And it doesn't mean shit unless you win the general election...

...now, does it?

[Saturday]

25. You beat me to it, the primary is NOT the general. nt

[John Q. Citizen]

35. President Obama will win the GE. Just you watch. And learn.

[ginchinchili]

39. I suppose if you say it enough that will make it so, eh?

[Bake]

47. Yeah. That's what we said about Dukakis too.

There was no way he could lose ...

But he did. I see Obama going the same way.

Bake

[John Q. Citizen]

49. Obama is far and away a better candidate than Dukakis His campaign is much better, on

a whole lot of levels.

[Bake]

90. Duke was a good candidate too, until he made two big slips.

That's all it takes.

Bake

[Saturday]

9. It's true and although Obama supporters refuse to listen to the

downside of Obama here at DU the public will be glad to listen in the GE.

[mkultra]

80. yeah, but there will be one less major republican

talking about him as her candidacy will be over.

[Bonobo]

10. Simply put, the label of "elitist" will not stick to Obama. It cannot.

Rich White people who are millionaires 100 times over do not have the standing to call Obama an elitist.

It will not stick because it is absurd on the face of it.

Absurd.

[ginchinchili]

26. An millionaire, intellectual, Harvard graduated lawyer...

who makes comments like his "bitter" comment? Who are you trying to kid? Ignoring reality will not help your plight.

[Bonobo]

29. "Ignoring reality"? I really don't think people will see it that way.

He and his wife took out student loans to go to college.

Absurd.

[ginchinchili]

36. Student loans??? Wow, I had no idea. That makes all the difference.

What kind of jobs did they hold in order to pay their Harvard tuition? Obama is the very definition of elitist.

[GoldieAZ49]

50. Liberal elite:

This is why Hillary is going after him on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_elite

Liberal elite:
In the US, the term is most often applied to residents of the Northeast (especially New England, New York City and the rest of the BosWash area) and the West Coast (especially the San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle areas), who often hold advanced college degrees and are politically left-leaning.
It is considered a political disadvantage for a campaigning US politician to be associated in the minds of the electorate with the "liberal elite" because they would then seem to be not only out of step with mainstream opinion, but also privileged, and therefore unfamiliar with the concerns of the typical American voter. Thus it is often used by many politicians to apply to their left-leaning opponents if they also live an affluent or upscale lifestyle.


much more info at link

[Botany]

13. Now did you have all those smears in front of you when you posted ...

.... or did you do it from memory?

Why the hell are posting on a "democratic site?" It is over
and Obama will win the nomination and he will crush McCain
in the General Election too.

[Voice for Peace]

14. LOLOL! Yes, his candidacy is really sinking fast. nt

[Willo]

16. And, what did the SDs say when you finished?

[YDogg]

19. FOX news "reporter?"

[Joe the Revelator]

22. His candiacy is sinking? Since "Bittergate" Obama is +1 in SD's and +2 in PA endorsements

I think he's weathering this just fine.

[C_U_L8R]

23. Dream on.

And Hillary just said church isn't relevant.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/13/clinton-not-relevant-last-time-i-went-to-church-fired-gun/

The word twisting game cuts both ways.

[dkf]

34. Oh my...she said Church isn't relevant?

Is that how this is going to be played?

Yikes!

:rofl:

[hisownpetard]

24. Hillary only wishes her candidacy were 'sinking' like Obama's is.

I'll take mine char-broiled, with pickle on the side.

[Nitrogenica]

30. What isthis opposites day, or FOX news. Childish, disgusting post.

get lost, asshole.

[grantcart]

31. . . . in your mind anything is possible

[BlooInBloo]

32. With sinking like this, who needs success?

[hisownpetard]

33. "...faux pases"? That really takes the gateau!

[Genevieve]

40. Ha ha!

:rofl:

[hisownpetard]

52. Welcome to DU.

:shrug: :hi:

[SoCalDem]

37. Thanks for your "concern"

:rofl:

[guyanakoolaid]

38. "ethnocentric, elitist"? Ethnocentric? Ironically you're probably one of the Clintonistas who cry

about imaginary Democratic sexism, all the while opening your own mouths wider and revealing your racist underpinnings.

And it's beyond funny that you decry that "He just can't keep his true thoughts hidden.", AS IF THAT WERE A VIRTUE! People are sick of calculated politicians like Clinton who keep their true thoughts hidden, especially when she, like the OP, chooses standard right-wing talking points to hide behind.

[ginchinchili]

43. True, but people don't want a president who can't relate to them either.

In other words, an elitist, someone who disrespects others, particularly white people, because they don't think like him.

[guyanakoolaid]

53. "someone who disrespects others"...

:banghead:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

75. That's the problem: Obama disrespects white people!

You say he's "elitist" because he disrespects white people, but isn't the word you're really thinking of, "uppity"? Good grief, we can't have a black man disrespecting white people! Quelle horreur!

[book_worm]

41. I don't see it sinking? He still leads and picked up yet another super delegate today.

[thoughtcrime1984]

42. Candidacy sinking? Not that I'm aware of.

You can wish it all you want, but that doesn't make it so. He is the best candidate for the job, and the best candidate may finally win.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

44. There is actually no factual evidence to support your position.

Is there? Let's see it.

[azmouse]

45. ...

[InfiniteNether]

46. Lol , tool. You would like him to lose, wouldn't you?

[Faygo Kid]

48. You are full of crap, says this 56 year old white American.

"He just doesn't represent enough Americans, and even he would probably agree privately that he has little in common with most Americans, and is probably proud of it."

What an awful, horrible statement. As the son of a single mom, I say you are wrong.

[aquarius dawning]

51. The OP is right on the money says this 37 year old white American

Obama does not represent me.

[PBS Poll-435]

55. He does not speak for this 26 year old.

Cuz I am not bitter.

Bitterness doesn't get shit done.

[aquarius dawning]

58. The bitter thing is stupid. It was the rest of his comments that were more alarming to me.

[ginchinchili]

72. Exactly, but Obama is trying to spin this as being about the "bitter" part of the comment.

He's lying. He was responding to a question about why he's having a hard time with white, rural, blue-collar workers. His response was arrogant, and insulting to a large number of good Americans. And many of them vote. The only reason he would do this to himself and the Democratic Party is either pure stupidity or pure arrogance, and I don't think he's stupid.

[ginchinchili]

78. What does being the son of a single mom have to do with it?

[Raffi Ella]

54. Agreed

"The Democrats made a big mistake banking on this guy."


He can not win the White House back for Us, period. I'm hoping this latest "Bad Judgement" moment of his takes him out for good.

[Name removed]

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[smiley_glad_hands]

56. Collective delusions of Hilliary supporters.

She cannot win no matter how you spin it.

[Justice Is Comin]

57. I wouldn't vote for this

string bean phony if Clinton came to my door and asked me personally.

I can't even stand to look at him or listen to him anymore. I've had enough of his conniving bullshit to last me until November.

[ginchinchili]

73. You're not alone.

[TheCowsCameHome]

59. So, other than that, how's things over at Freak Republic................

[Lucky 13]

60. It's the accumulated effect of Hillary's compulsive lying that is sinking her candidacy.

The public tends not to like liars. I think she'd lose that fight.

[Faygo Kid]

61. Thank you. Sometimes us long-time posters forget to say thanks,

I for one want to say thanks, Lucky 13.

[Lucky 13]

68. no thank YOU faygokid!

and great picture!

[TheCowsCameHome]

62. Her Bosnia experience must've made her come unglued.

How horrible it must have been.:spank:

[PM7nj]

63. He's sinking?

Well, that is news to me!

[Hepburn]

65. And it is Pathological Lying that sank inevitable nominee HilLIARy.

Your point?

[TragedyandHope]

66. Yes and that's why you should vote for Hillary

because she can't win on the issues or character.

[zulchzulu]

69. Obama WILL BE THE NOMINEE... repeat after me.... Obama WILL BE THE NOMINEE...

Your "revelations" are garbage.

Obama WILL BE THE NOMINEE...

...And....

...The Next President of the United States.

[ginchinchili]

74. Does that mantra come with Koolaid?

[Neshanic]

70. Nicely put. Sadly Obamists will have none of this logic.

[ginchinchili]

76. Thanks. Yes, I'm seeing that Repubs aren't the only ones comfortable w/their heads in the sand.

The Democrats were in the process of winning over many disillusioned former Bush voters. An Obama candidacy will send them all running back to the comfortable folds of the Republican Party. Democrats don't know how to win because they can't adequately analyze America's political landscape. I've read endless variations of, "There's no way the Democrats can lose." It's that kind of attitude that will cause any competitor to lose a competition.

[AZBlue]

71. Sinking his candidacy? WTF? What color are the clouds in your world??

[dionysus]

77. ummmmm..... 1) he's winning 2) hillary is sinking....

omg how f'in daft....
:rofl:

[ginchinchili]

79. We'll see. I think the Democrats have screwed themselves.

At a time when we can't afford another Republican in the White House. But the odds of that are increasing with each passing day, and don't blame Hillary for not dropping out. That's our process. Blame the Democrats for not knowing how to choose a winning candidate, with a lot of help from the ever-meddlesome news media.

[madrchsod]

82. i guess we should`t have voted for obama in illinois

after all keyes was such a formidable opponent...70% to 27%! out of 102 counties in illinois obama lost 9..

obama won`t get those numbers in the general but i`m going with 55% to 45%...

obama spoke for a hell of a lot of republicans in this state.. he`s going to speak to enough republicans to win the general election.

[graycem]

83. Dadgum Democratic voters...

We should've known that more than half of the Democrats can't pick a winner, afterall we are the party who loves defeat. Does that explain your defeatist attitude?

Since you seem convinced he can't win, can you explain how Hillary can?? Before she ever got started her level of support was maxed out. She was painted by the Republicans as "divisive" and "polarizing" and their labels worked. Do you think that they won't drag up all of the Clinton's dirty laundry, with a fresh new Snuggle scented list of things the public hasn't been aware of about them since they left office? They both have a good fight, no matter who is the nominee because power has to be wrested away. I can absolutely guarantee you that if we ran Jesus H. Christ himself, Republicans would call him a socialist, and "elitist" because to them, apparently, smart = elitist. And if you say Obama can't win because he's offended large blocs of voters, then I say Hillary can't, because she's done the same. So, I guess we should just forfeit now, and coronate McCain. OR, we could stop buying into the false arguments they're using, when in all actuality, they are peeing their pants because of the infighting going on within their OWN party. McCain was the best they could do, and they aren't happy about it, no matter what CNN tells the public.

[JVS]

88. Hillary should have dropped out to let Edwards be the non-Obama candidate.

:rofl:

[madrchsod]

81. the debates between john and barack will be brutal

i could almost feel sorry for john...john will understand how keyes felt after the 2004 election

[graycem]

84. Indeed..

I absolutely cannot wait for them... This is going to be a great election cycle! :D

[smiley_glad_hands]

85. Guess he's not white enough for some people. eom

[rodeodance]

86. Yes, the DNC and so-called party leaders are making a big mistake

[OneBlueSky]

87. (sigh) . . . can't we just draft Al Gore? . . . n/t

.

[Seabiscuit]

91. He's got some heavy baggage that's for sure that isn't easy to get rid of

especially when he claims to be the champion of hope and change. He is a complete disaster when off script (similiar to Bush) and it is a given that the Republicans will exploit his words and actions in the GE. Last night's Compassion Forum on CNN, I was looking forward to listening to the thoughts of both Hillary and Barack on the issue of faith and politics but what totally turned me off is that Baracks answers were incoherent. He never directly answers a question, he rambles it seems like his thoughts are elsewhere and he dances around the questions while changing the subject. I wonder what he really believes.

[Arugula Latte]

92. So "sinking" means "winning" now?

Wow, I can't keep up with the kids' slang these days.