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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:04 PM
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I believe the debate on Wednesday is the time for Obama to "switch to southpaw".
It's a boxing term for a right-handed boxer whose opponent is used to them throwing punches from the right switching to left-handed punches. Clinton makes her atrocious statements because she knows that Obama won't call her on most of them. I'm not advocating going negative, just calling her to task for one or two of her statements.

...and the Wednesday debate is the perfect opportunity. It'll be nationally televised, the press will be writing about it for days if not weeks, it's face to face, it doesn't allow Clinton any time to craft a response, and it's near enough to the end of the primary season that any impression it leaves will remain for the rest of the primary season.

A 9th-round haymaker, if you will.

We can assume that a question about the candidate's statements over the course of the primary and how those statements will effect their electibility in the general election will be asked. Without going negative, here's what I'd love to see Obama say...

(you'll forgive my lack of speechwriting experience...my goal is to provide basic content, not eloquence)



"It's been a long primary season. There's always going to be something you wished you'd worded better...something you wish you'd spent more time clarifying. Over the course of fourteen months, something's going to come out in a way that leaves it open to negative interpretation, regardless of how true you feel the message is. Obviously, I have some recent experience with that. (smile)

I believe that voters are smart and tolerant enough to understand that. If you give them a real message...if you tell them the truth...they'll see the value of that message and forgive the occasional awkwardness of its delivery.

What voters will not tolerate are lies. They've spent decades being lied to, and they're tired of it. Don't tell them that things are fine when their own experience tells them different. Don't tell them that you've tried to protect their jobs from being sent overseas when you've spent years supporting free trade agreements...and have your own chief campaign strategist trying to sell a free trade agreement to Columbia. Don't tell them that you were under sniper fire...and then repeat that lie three more times when their sons and daughters are dying every day in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The American people are smart enough to see what the issues really are and to forgive an imprecise word or two if they believe in the truth of the message. All they ask is your attention and your honesty. I feel that I've given them that."




That takes a little over a minute to say.

I think it accomplishes the following:

1) It explains the reality of the difficulty of always speaking perfectly without resorting to Clinton's "I say a million words a day".

2) It downplays "bittergate" in a mildly humorous way.

3) It states that voters are smart enough to evaluate campaign statements for themselves...defusing the "elitist" accusation.

4) It ties that intelligence to forgiving poor word choice.

5) It reinforces his earlier "voters have been ignored and given false hopes by politicians" statement and specifically directs the discussion to lies.

6) It clarifies the discussion, stating that voters will not tolerate lies.

7) It gives three specific examples of Clinton's own statements (no iffy interpretation or judgment calls) in increasing strength to both support his contention and draw a distinction between his poor word choices in the past and Clinton's intentional mistruths.

8) It reinforces the message that voters are capable of making good judgments and restates the difference between his past statements and hers.


Oh, and the volume should steadily increase through the third paragraph.


Clinton is so used to Obama being completely hands-off about anything that could be remotely considered "negative" that I don't believe she'll be able to respond...especially in a live event.

It's not "going negative", it's using a completely accurate of her own words and actions to draw a distinction.


An I off-base?
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:07 PM
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1. I think you are off base
the metaphor is Ali - Forman Rumble in the Jungle. Think rope a dope... After all who's photo does Obama have in his office?

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, rumble young man rumble.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:35 PM
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3. Perhaps...that's why I asked...however,
I don't quite understand how your Ali reference pertains. Can you elucidate?
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:42 PM
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6. Round after round...
HRC comes out and swings with all her might - throwing everything at him including the kitchen sink. Obama cooly leans against the ropes protecting himself and biding his time. His fans don't get it - they are sure he's lost his mind. "Get off the ropes Obama" they shout "you're in a knife fight - you gotta fight back" they just don't get it. But Obama is biding his time, feeling her punches getting weaker, her swings getting wilder - she is running out of gas and he knows it. When the time is right - he steps away from the ropes and starts to swing. A left, a right, another right, now he doubles up his jab, finally a sharp combination and down goes Hillary, down goes Hillary!

If you've never watched this fight rent the video and study it - I'm sure Obama has.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:10 PM
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2. Obama should work in that
Americans will not tolerate LIES..they've been LIED to ENOUGH! Excellent, Mercutio.

"What voters will not tolerate are lies. They've spent decades being lied to, and they're tired of it. Don't tell them that things are fine when their own experience tells them different. Don't tell them that you've tried to protect their jobs from being sent overseas when you've spent years supporting free trade agreements...and have your own chief campaign strategist trying to sell a free trade agreement to Columbia. Don't tell them that you were under sniper fire...and then repeat that lie three more times when their sons and daughters are dying every day in Iraq and Afghanistan.


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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:50 PM
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4. That's more like a body blow. A "haymaker" is more of a wild swing
to knock out the opponent. It is most commonly used in street fights. Whatever, the part about sniper fire is a real body blow.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:56 PM
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5. Have you noticed that Obama is a southpaw?
I noticed it when he was taking notes in one of the debates. Wonder how many of our presidents have been left-handed (the only ones in their right mind) :)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:48 PM
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7. left handed presidents

# James A. Garfield
# Herbert Hoover
# Harry S. Truman
# Gerald Ford
# Ronald Reagan
# George Bush
# Bill Clinton

And of course, President-to-be Obama :)
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:12 AM
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8. Wrong, Hillary is at her best in a verbal fight and in debates
Obama hums and haws to much in his answers, he sounds like he is stumped.

But it should be more of a 'personality' debate, there really is no issue that hasn't been debated to death already and they pretty much are the same on the issues.


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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:14 AM
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9. slip some laxative pills in her drink
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:23 AM
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10. In her Crown Royal?
Just kidding!
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