Obama on Clinton in Pa: "Shame on her. Shame on her."

[Coexist]

STEELTON, Penn. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama lashed out Sunday at rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, mocking her sudden vocal support for gun rights and saying he understands the concerns of working class people.

"She knows better. Shame on her. Shame on her," Obama told an audience at a union hall here.

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After reiterating his regret for his choice of words, Obama turned the tables on Clinton - mocking, among other things, her sudden fealty to the rights of gun owners.

"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsman, how she values the second amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley," Obama said, invoking the famed female sharpshooter immortalized in the musical "Anne Get Your Gun."

Obama continued, saying "Hillary Clinton is out there like she's on the duck blind every Sunday. She's packing a six-shooter. Come on, she knows better. That's some politics being played by Hillary Clinton."

Wow.

[AllentownJake]

1. Finally

RAIN down the hay-makers.

[tishaLA]

2. Dang. I really didn't expect that kind of response

from him. Good for him.

[jackson_dem]

3. Why is Obama echoing right-wing talking points on a possible Dem nominee regarding guns?

Watch the blind to irony crowd K and R this thread as they Obamagasm...

[MonkeyFunk]

5. Yup

and remember when Clinton said "shame on you" to Obama and people here thought it was about the worst, right-wing attack they'd ever seen in their lives?

[JackORoses]

13. only difference being, Hillary truly is shameful and shameless

[jackson_dem]

23. Would Hillary throw the woman he raised her under the bus to gain a few votes?

[JackORoses]

60. please clarify, your statement makes no sense

[jackson_dem]

18. Oh yeah. How could I forget?

Then they wonder why they are seen by many as a ____...

[golddigger]

35. Yeah, I know MonkeyFunk. Chalk it up to short term memory loss.

[stillcool]

83. No. We remember it real well..

and Obviously...so does Senator Obama...:rofl: Boomerang!!

[Zachstar]

37. Ya it was because it was baseless.

Unlike this crop of crap Clinton is growing.

[IntravenousDemilo]

46. Hey, turn-about is fair play. n/m

[Zhade]

58. clinton's a proven liar. What's your point, oh supporter of lies?

NT!

[Petrushka]

65. When HRC says "Shame on you.", it's "school-marmish". When BHO says "Shame on you.", too, maybe

it's "obamarmish"?

:shrug:



Edited to add:

Oops! My bad!
BHO didn't say, "Shame on you."
He said "Shame on HER."

So . . .
Bully for HIM!

:spank:

[Willo]

73. She had faux outrage. He was laughing and mocking her.

[Whisp]

115. he has a treasure trove of Hillary nonsense to bring up by parroting her.

hope he'll decide to have more fun with this.
He's been holding back, maybe it's time to pull out the big guns and blast her ass with her own idiotcy.

[stillcool]

81. Duh...don't you get that he was...

doing a riff on her?

[Qanisqineq]

93. FIRST thing I thought of

And post after post of "she sounds like a scolding mother". Are we going to hear complaints that Obama sounds like a scolding father now?

[ericgtr]

9. Come on man, she's ripped him up and down for the last two days straight

and finally he says something back and you go into a fit? Hell yeah this is going to get kicked and Rec'd.

[jackson_dem]

20. It's the hypocrisy of Obamites and their fake outrage...

[nsd]

11. As you wish: K & R.

[Window]

41. Hell, he tried to stay above the fray, but that twisted sister has been begging for payback.

:rofl:

[jackson_dem]

43. By attacking her from the beginning of his campaign?

Obama's new kind of politics: just words...

[Coexist]

61. interesting way to put it.

[americanstranger]

94. Hey, don't dis Twisted Sister.

You gotta watch this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AgkrX-NSt6Q

- as

[Window]

47. Oh, and K/R.

:kick:

[MethuenProgressive]

109. Because he's a right wing Reagan "democrat"

He's stopped trying to hide it, what with his sneer about the peasants in PA.

[elmerdem]

112. take your peasant shit and go home!

you've been using that word all fucking day. Do you think people will believe he said that or are you trying to be regarded as a moron?

[D23MIURG23]

119. Yeah not like Corporate Hillary and her 100% "large donor" campaign.

She has the little guy's interest at heart.

:eyes:

The "peasants" already rejected the candidate that the dukes and duchesses were after.

[Mugweed]

120. give it a rest

My father has been a registered republican since he could vote. He lives in Bucks County. He's bitter at the current administration for fucking things up and lying incessantly (he voted for Bush in 2000 not 2004). He will be voting Obama over the republican clone McSame or the republican-lite Clinton. Did I mention he's bitter? He agrees that everyone he knows...all middle-class retirees who are living well...are bitter about the crap that our current administration has pulled. The real outrage is that Bush is not behind bars.

[Hugabear]

110. You mean like how Hillary was against guns before she was for them?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E7D9173FF93AA35756C0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

So I guess bringing up Hillary's record is now considered "right-wing talking points"?

[ericgtr]

4. It's about time, he's taken enough of her shit

good for him.

[tekisui]

6. Hypocritical KNR!

[Barack_America]

7. Harsh, but true.

I certainly wouldn't go hunting with her.

We've all seen what happens when a shotgun is thrust into the hand of a politician.

Buckshot in the face and heart.

No thank you.

[americanstranger]

8. Yowch.

I guess if she wants hardball, it's hardball she shall get.

She might end up regretting it.

- as

[AJH032]

10. and if Hillary had said "shame on him"

for anything at all, the reaction in this forum would be the exact opposite (to the tune of "how DARE she shame another Democrat!")

[babylonsister]

15. She's already done that; where have you been?

She fairly screeched it, sounded like his mother:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_X-RoRghAY

[bettyellen]

121. sounded like his mother? you want to know what you sound like?

a woman hater. get a fucking clue.

[Coexist]

19. she already did - the day after she said she was "proud" to be on the dais with him.

[jenmito]

26. Um, she DID say it. And for a non-valid reason.

[jackson_dem]

38. She did say it and Obamanation acted as if it was the worst attack ever made by a politician

Now Obama takes pages out of Rove's playbook to bash Clinton and says "shame on her. shame on her." and the same people are having Obamagasms...

[Window]

45. Have you forgotten, 'SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA, MEET ME

IN OHIO.":rofl:

This less than a day after, "I'm really so proud to share a stage with Senator Obama," in a really sweet soft voice.:rofl:

[AJH032]

59. aaah, so she did say it

and what was this forum's reaction, do (any of) you remember?

I'm willing to bet it wasn't welcoming and enthusiastic.

[druidity33]

103. well

some things are shameful, some things aren't...

:shrug:

[thevoiceofreason]

12. He called her Annie Oakley? Good for him!

[sniffa]

14. Is he reading DU?

:woohoo:

K&R

He's quick on the draw. :bounce:

[Window]

16. Ha ha. Good for Senator Obama. It's about time.

:rofl:

[JI7]

17. good

[NC_Nurse]

21. Bwahahaha! That's great. Throw her own words back at her.

I like it. :-)

[cbayer]

22. Once again, I want to make sure I am clear on the rules.

Clinton says "Shame on you" - bad.
Obama says "Shame on you" - good.

It's just so hard to keep up.

[babylonsister]

27. She scolded; he's using humor in response to her attacking him.

Should he not say anything? I prefer his approach btw.

[FrenchieCat]

29. Well, you are almost clear on the rules....

Clinton says "Shame on you" - If it's based on lying while shaming, yes, bad.
Obama says "Shame on you" - If it's based on the truth while shaming, yes, it's good.

[elmerdem]

113. He was

MOCKING her. I'm sorry that it was over your head.

[IntravenousDemilo]

49. Not quite...

Strike the first dirty blow -- bad and destructive.
Respond in kind -- smart and justifiable.

Nothing's quite so satisfying as ramming someone's own words down their throat till they choke on them.

[tekisui]

105. When Hillary said "Shame on you" she was serious and angry.

Talking TO Obama.

Obama used her own words, changed it to "Shame on her". He didn't direct from himself TO her, but TO the audience. He did it with a wry smile. It reminded everyone of her public scolding, and effectively threw it back at her.

[IntravenousDemilo]

118. Somehow I don't think either of them really meant it.

They are both politicians, and you can take anything they say with a grain of salt. It's important to the punters, though.

As for me, I liked it when Obama used sarcasm to good effect in his "Annie Oakley" comments. That was fun, and I wish public figures did that sort of thing more, because we get more of a glimpse into the quickness of their minds, the essential nature of their characters, and what they really think. For once, I'd like a politician on the stump or during a televised debate to say, "You know, that's just a load of horseshit and you know it." Or, "That was a completely moronic thing to say." Or, "Mr President, you are not fooling anybody with that phony buddy-buddy crap." Or, to the press: "Guess what? What I do in my personal life is none of your business, and what you do is none of mine. If you'd like, I can dig into your past and tell the world about it at my next event. Next question..." Politicians, take the damned gloves off, you craven cowards! Real people speak their minds, and real people will cast their votes for a real person if they are offered that choice.

John Kerry should have destroyed the Swiftboaters and left their smoking, fly-attracting carcasses to rot in the sun. But he didn't, and that was chickenshit of him. And when the "October Surprise" of bin Laden's tape surfaced, instead of saying, "Well, I think that blah blah blah blah blah blah and furthermore blah blah blah" for five minutes, all he needed to do was say, "Ah yes, Osama bin Laden -- George Bush's little family friend!", turn on his heel, and walk out with no questions from the press. I bet that would have been the headline in every major newspaper and his approval rating would have gone up about five points. Of course, the Republicans would start screaming about the decline in the level of political discourse (or grunts to that effect), and the pundits would say it was a horrible mistake for Kerry to say such a thing, at which point Kerry could have told them all, "You know that I'm right, so shove it." And then his poll numbers would have shot up another five points.

[tekisui]

24. He's fighting mad, now. Go get fer, Obama!

[ampad]

25. LOL

Good for Senator Obama. Annie Oakley my ass! :rofl: K&R

[Frank Booth]

28. Good. She deserves it.

She's shamed herself by becoming a Republican after losing the Democratic nomination. Joe Lieberman, whom she is quickly becoming, should be ashamed as well.

[babylonsister]

30. It's worth revisiting Clinton's 'shame on you' video (here): listen to

her scolding, and what she's scolding about. Now she's doing the exact same thing she accused him of. Oye.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_X-RoRghAY

[jackson_dem]

31. Is Obama dog whistling on gender again?

You know how guns are for us menfolk only, nudge, nudge...

[earthlover]

64. women hunt too, you sexist!

[Petrushka]

69. Like: "This is my weapon; this is my gun. One is for . . . (?)" WHAT-ev-er, it's all fun!

[Name removed]

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[BumRushDaShow]

32. ROFLMAO

:rofl:

What goes around, comes around.

[RememberWellstone]

33. How thoughtful and creative

I've never heard that before.

[madfloridian]

34. She deserved every word he said and more.

She really deserved it.

[DemGa]

36. Wow, he's REALLY mocking --- It comes off as cheap, arrogant -- desperate.

[Zachstar]

40. To desperate Clitnon supproters perhaps.

[rodeodance]

50. I would not trust him at the red phone with that temper

[DemGa]

53. He's really losing it --- Obama: unhinged --- NT

[rodeodance]

54. not cool

[earthlover]

67. So...go ahead and trust the red phone to someone who was duped on Iraq!

And voted for WAR on the basis of political expediancy....

And this is different from Bush how?

[gal]

98. So you want him red faced?

You would rather seem him red faced and shaking her fist like Hillary did? Least he has a sense of humor.

[earthlover]

66. Having a prohibitive lead is not desperate....what planet are you from?

[Blue_Roses]

99. It comes off as hilarious...

:rofl:

[Zachstar]

39. Now THAT is the Obama I know and want for president!

No more BULLSHIT! Not from Clinton Nor from McCain! Obama is going to be in your face and when you fuck up McCain! Obama is going to be there to call you on it!!

This is OBAMA!!

[Joe the Revelator]

42. Hillary Oakly

I love it.

[JackORoses]

57. Ladies and Genetleman, I present the Bitterest Pistoleer this side of the Pecos,

Hilly Oakley!!!

[Joe the Revelator]

91. Awesome!

[rodeodance]

44. ha ha--ho ho so Hillary got his goat. ha ha

[bigtree]

48. boy, he sounds really bitter

really. wow.

[DemGa]

51. "She knows better" ? -- how utterly condescending and bitter -- NT

[NJSecularist]

55. Let me guess... he is sexist now?

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[Cha]

52. hilary's closet is full of costumes..

And she just added Annie's chaps.

[Coexist]

62. funny!

[Marnieworld]

56. that's what I'm talking about!

I'm glad he's saying it. She's earned it. Good. :woohoo:

[Scurrilous]

63. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Arkana]

68. She should know better.

She's so transparent when she tries to pander--comparing herself to Rocky in Philadelphia, posing with mariachi bands in the Southwest...my God, does she ever have an original thought?

Good on Obama for calling her on this newest bout of faux-outrage.

[Willo]

71. LOL, Barack said Hillary thinks she's Annie Oakley ROFL

[Tatiana]

72. Good. I'm ready for his campaign to take the gloves off.

It's time to wrap this up and go on aggressive offense.

[Willo]

74. Here's the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo

I

[mamalone]

80. Man-O-Man!

He was having some fun!

This guy is really something new and different.... whatever they throw at him, he is able to turn to his advantage. Sounds so corny, but he really does give me hope.

[Barb in Atl]

87. Oh My....

He's pissed. When folks in my family are angry but smilin... That's your a**.

:popcorn:

[Willo]

95. Yep. Exactly. n/t

[Coexist]

106. thanks for the video.

[GarbagemanLB]

75. Holy shit. That's hilarious. I love it.

[quantass]

76. Finally! It's about time Obama start reacting against Hillary's silly season.

[Major Hogwash]

77. Hahahahahaha! Annie Oakley! I love it!

Go get 'em, Obama.

Snark is so much better when it is left in the oven overnight to stew a little.

[Willo]

78. He's got them laughing at her in PA. Duckblind LOL

[liberaldem4ever]

79. K & R!!

[Evergreen Emerald]

82. He sounds too emotional...

Yikes. He may need a nap.

[goodgd_yall]

101. God forbid a candidate show he's human.

:scared:

[Catherina]

84. His response. He NAILS her

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo :applause:

[aaronbees]

86. "I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blind."

:rofl:

[Kaylee]

85. Damn! That's rough.

GOBAMA!

[Tatiana]

88. Watch the video, folks! He's fantastic and completely nails her.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo

[NJmaverick]

89. I think it's great how he treats the classic dishonest politics

with such disdain

[Skip Intro]

90. He sounds so bitter. And pathetic.

Sounds like someone who can dish it out but can't take it.

Attacking her instead of facing the music lays bare the substance of this candidate.

"After reiterating his regret for his choice of words" - he apologizes for his words while defending them by attacking Hillary.

This from the guy who began his campaign by calling her repuke-lite.


Says a lot about his actual substance.

Pathetic.

[stillcool]

92. Oh man....you are bitter...

Talk about being able to dish it out...and not being able to take it..that boomerang stuff is a beautiful sight..watch again!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo

[Willo]

96. Actually he took it and took it and finally dished it back quite nicely

[TragedyandHope]

97. Obama speaks for the people.

Hillary tries to treat us like a bunch of dummies and he's sticking up for us.

[McCamy Taylor]

100. Wait, didn't someone brag that Obama never said "Shame on you, Hillary"?

I swear that this was supposed to be one the ways in which Obama was perfect, because he never criticizes another Democrat.

[Raine]

102. GObama!!! nt

[futureliveshere]

104. This should help calm down all the people who thought he is TOO SOFT. Don't piss the guy off.

[Scurrilous]

107. Kick

:kick:

[Vinca]

108. Just watched this over at the Huffington Post - it's a thing of beauty. nt

[chill_wind]

111. And when asked to name the last time she picked up a firearm or attended church herself?

"Pressed by reporters Sunday to name the last time she attended church or used a firearm, she said the question was 'not relevant'."

Obama Rails on Clinton at Steelworkers Event

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/04/13/obama-rails-on-clinton-at-steelworkers-event/?mod=WSJBlog

[elmerdem]

116. now the HRC crickets

will chirp.

Answer the question Hillary!

[Texas Hill Country]

114. the video comes off worse... dumb. real dumb.

[Bake]

117. Has Obama ever actually fired a gun?

Because there's that whole Commander in Chief thing, ya know? Where does he stand on gun rights?

Bake