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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:41 PM
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Why would Hillary say that about Al Gore
you would think she would be trying to get Gore's endorsement...not insult him...unless there is some truth behind the rumors of Carter and Gore preparing to endorse Obama
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:42 PM
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1. He probably called her today
To tell her to knock it off or I'll do it. This was her backslap.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:48 PM
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13. The article said Gore and Carter we going to step in to end it.
Not that they are necessarily going to endorse Obama soon. Carter said he would not endorse until the Convention, but that his entire family is for Obama, and eluded that has his guy. They could very well have called Hillary, and the SuperD's.

I would really love a Gore Endorsement, though.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:54 PM
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24. If Gore did endorse Obama the Clintonites would call him a Judus too
because he was Clinton's VP and the Clinton's think anybody who has served with them has to be with them no matter what.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:58 PM
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34. And bil screwed him with his blue
dress debacle.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:43 PM
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2. To make herself appear like a common person. It's called projection.
If she calls Obama, Gore, Kerry et. al elitists, how could she be one herself? It's so utterly ridiculous I can't stand it. :rofl:
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:44 PM
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3. I've seen that rumor in a few places now
maybe Hill did get the call and this was her way of saying, "thanks"

I wonder if Bill Richardson got the same treatment when he said he was going with Obama
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:44 PM
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4. Hard to tell what's going on behind the scenes, but in front of the
cameras, she really dropped the ball on the Gore thing this evening.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:45 PM
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5. makes you wonder
someone making nice, trying to get their endorsement wouldn't go about it by backhandedly calling them a snob.


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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:45 PM
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6. what did she say?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:46 PM
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7. Not really.
She understands that there is no way that Al Gore is going to endorse her in the primary. If she had won the nomination, he certainly would have. But he is supporting the winner, Barack Obama.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:46 PM
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8. I think they are getting wind that Al is going to come out for Obama
So, paint the Nobel Laureate as an 'elitist', put him on the enemies list, and throw him under the bus.

Hillary is going to run out of buses to throw Democrats under, real, real soon.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:56 PM
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30. They'll be living in that bus down by the river soon enough.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 08:56 PM by cottonseed
Those two will have alienated so many big time Democrats by the time this thing is wrapped up, they may find themselves persona non grata to the party.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:47 PM
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9. she said
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 08:48 PM by bigtree
"We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for president in 2000 and 2004," she said. "Large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand, or relate to, or respect their ways of life."

It's entirely true that there was a divide in the electorate in those contests. The side which voted for Bush did hold those views, about our party, that she expressed.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:52 PM
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20. i wondered why she said that.
i know the right painted kerry as an elitist, but i don't remember them doing that to gore. did i miss something in 2000?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:55 PM
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27. both men won...
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:58 PM
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35. Wow, that's just awful!
:crazy: :eyes:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:47 PM
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10. Wasn't about Gore
sounds like it was aimed at Kerry.

Nice try, though.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:49 PM
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15. Kerry didn't run in 2000, Gore did. eom
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:53 PM
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21. Did she mention 2000?
Got an exact quote?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:56 PM
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29. Yes. She mentioned "as recently as 2000 and 2004..."
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:57 PM
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32. 2004 was mentioned then
I don't think you have much to flog here. All she did was mention the two previous presidential elections.

Big deal.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:59 PM
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38. She was talking about Gore and Kerry being seen as "elitists."
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:53 PM
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22. Yes it was aimed at Gore...listen to her comments.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:55 PM
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26. HAHAHAHAHA! Kerry didn't run in 2000, genius.
But I hardly expect accuracy from someone who denies the proven lie about nonexistent sniper fire in Tuzla.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:01 PM
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39. unlike Hillary , Kerry was shot at, so it's not ok to say it about him either
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:48 PM
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11. Because she is a fool in my view.
Perhaps she thought that a badly worded insult would get Gore to endorse her for some reason? I don't know I just know that It is disgusting that someone who is supposed to be part of the democratic party would throw great democratic candidates of the past under the bus like that.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:49 PM
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16. indeed
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:48 PM
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12. I missed what she said.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:49 PM
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14. So, is Al Gore dead to her now? (nt)
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:50 PM
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17. That's it. The Gore endorsement this week
So she can now say "See, the elitists stick together"
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:51 PM
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18. He is not a sacred cow immune from criticism.
nt
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:59 PM
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36. You're a little early with the AL GORE is dead to us screed.
he hasn't endorsed Obama ...........YET
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:10 PM
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41. But Gore is not above critisism, nor is anyone else.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:20 PM
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44. Excuse me
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 09:21 PM by DearAbby
DU Belch :blush:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:20 PM
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45. See post above
:hi:
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:52 PM
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19. She's confused
she doesn't know where she is in the campaign. She never prepared herself mentally for a long primary because she thought she thought it would all be over by Feb 5. She thinks it's the GE (she thought she would be campaigning in the GE in April not still grinding away inthe primary) and she knows Obama is running as the democratic candidate and she knows she is his opponent, so she is adopting the opponent persona/stance regardless of what it is. If she actually had to run against McCain, who knows what positions she would adopt?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:54 PM
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23. carter and gore do not like bill clinton
i think she knows that neither one of them will ever endorse her. this may piss off gore enough to come out and endorse obama
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:54 PM
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25. They may have already had that "uncomfortable" conversation.
Dodd and Richardson can relate. Gore and Carter probably have already had it.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:55 PM
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28. Did Hillary really say that Gore is an elitist????
Did she actually say that?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:56 PM
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31. Either because Gore has decided to endorse Obama...
Or she wants Gore to endorse Obama.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:58 PM
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33. because she is a bitter person who can't believe this upstart is taking her nomination away
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:59 PM
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37. Man, talk about painting yourself into a corner.
Unreal.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:08 PM
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40. And good on Obama for pointing out that Gore won!


Obama is a real democrat... Hill just showed she's not in any party but the "get hillary more power party."
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:12 PM
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42. Oh for sure!!
Woot Woot for Obama, saying AL GORE Won in 2000!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:13 PM
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43. Carter said he would endorse at the convention nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:21 PM
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46. When it became clear
that there was going to be a relatively close and extremely hostile contest between Clinton and Obama, a number of the "party elders" made a decision to not endorse either candidate. They decided that they needed to remain out of the contest, so that if it became clear the contest was severely damaging the party, or if there was a dispute near convention time that was possibly going to court, that they could try to step in and negotiate a settlement. This group includes Al Gore and others (including at least one person who was in the primary). Many people believed that Gore was concerned that Obama would win the popular vote and have more delegates, and that Clinton would try to strong-arm the super delegates at the convention. They believe that Gore would not allow the winner to have the nomination stolen from him. Certainly Clinton, who had a less than positive relationship with the Gores in the 1990s, is aware of this.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:13 PM
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47. Will Carville be calling
Gore a "judas" soon? Seems strange she would be burning her bridges this way...
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