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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:30 AM
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Does anyone doubt if the Clinton's were the Obama's we'd being hearing all about...
Whitewater, Troopergate, Filegate, Travelgate, Lewinskygate, Fostergate, Pardongate - all of it.

I have no doubt in my mind after this week that if the tables were turned and the names switched, the new Obamas would be using all the junk from the sewer against the Clintons.

I mean HRC slammed Obama for his association with Rev Wright, but who did she just break bread with? Richard Mellon Scaife. This guy peddled every piece of sewer he could into the political lexicon. Hell, you could probably assign some of the 2000 election debacle on him.

HRC could have turned this into a double teaming on McCain, but no, she turned her most vile attacks on Obama. Just imagine if out of both HRC and Obama's mouth it was pointed out the free ride McCain is getting.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:37 AM
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1. You're right, but if the names (and positions in delegates) were switched
The MSM and the party big shots would have already forced Obama out of the race weeks ago.

Hillary has been getting a pass with the MSM due to her name, and with the party big shots due to their infamous grudges in the past when anyone dared stand up to them.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:21 AM
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2. Vile attacks? What vile attacks are you talking about?
**but no, she turned her most vile attacks on Obama**

If it's true that Hillary used *VILE* attacks, you should erasily be able to quote one or two of those vile attacks in specifity. But be fair -- remember that you can't quote what you INTERPRETED her say INSIDE you head; you have to confine yourself to the real world -- to actual quotes -- to the realm of of fact when you try to quote her.

I say "try" to quote her because, despite your VILE ATTACKS, Hillary is not guilty of the things the Right-wing (and now Obama-oriented) Kangaroo Court of public opinion has charged her with.

It is easy to call someone names if you don't have to justify it with any facts.

Easy, but immoral.

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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:02 AM
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3. For a starter.....
How about the subtle race baiting by her campaign?

Or how about the tepid response on 60 Minutes whether Obama was a Muslim?

Or how about how she allowed for the beliefs over the Wright comments?

Or telling America Obama is elitist and "looking down" at regular folks?

Shall I go on? I'm sure I can list many more of what either she, her campaign or her surrogates have spewed out.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:15 AM
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4. Well? nt...
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:17 AM
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5. ummm... vile? she has brought up nothing that would not be used against him in the GE, but
on the other hand, Obama threw that bullshit meme that the clintons are racists that would never have been brought up in a GE


he is the one I find vile.
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