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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:16 PM Original message |
Obama Screwed Up. |
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Nitrogenica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. I thought he's been addressing this head on all weekend, and |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. People hear what they want to hear! The media will twist his words |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. You may be right |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. I agree. But you'd better buckle up... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. And Clinton will suffer a backlash for twisting his words in a sustained assault on him. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Precisely. If anyone can make lemonade out of lemons, it's Barack. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Sigh - let me know when he manages |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. No kidding! |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
97. As soon as Hillary puts country and party above self. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. People are smarter than the image she's trying to portray, her NAFTA support isn't going to be a.... |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. No she won't This is politics, not tiddlywinks. nt |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm black and live in rich urban and I'm bitter too. The reason why his AWEFUL choice of words will |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. You've been listening to too much cable. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
77. Exactly..you only have to |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. David, you clearly haven't been paying attention |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's Hillary that is under fire for her response to this non-issue. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think you're overstating this-- massively |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. I agree completely. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes. It's just unwise to generalize about any group of people. However, |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. The negatives of his statements are outweighed by the connection to truth he makes to mid America |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. I disagree. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. fine, he put something the wrong way but fundamentally what he was trying to say is correct |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. BINGO! Great minds think alike :-) |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. It's Hillary and McBush who are stoking the flames and telling people to be outraged. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. Except that people are agreeing with him. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. I just think he has not been exposed to small town America |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Looking at the CONTEXT of the statement I think he nails it. Uses aweful choice of words but peggs.. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. I was raised in about as small a town as one could imagine. |
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riskpeace (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Your post points out that people are persuaded |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I don't know. I think he would seem very out of place in a small town. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
89. Another small-towner here. |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
99. geez, |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
98. that post reads like a form letter. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. He said he chose his words poorly. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. He has said it is true of poor urban folks |
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PetrusMonsFormicarum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. Bitter urbanites |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. Polls Say... Nah |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
26. Get a life! |
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
71. Obamanites attacking each other |
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Median Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
27. The Fact That We As Americans Will Make A Decision |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
28. Lord Obama said the peasants cling to their anti-immigrant sentiments out of bitterness. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. He's right on that point |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
90. I think that plenty of peasants understand exactly what he said, |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
30. Prove to be fatal? I think you're vastly overreacting David |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
31. I don't think I can agree with you on this one.... |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. Nonsense. |
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CC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
33. You are right, he screwed up and he made |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
35. Nah, he came out of the Wright issue just fine and it was 100 x's worse. Dont worry |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. These are his own words |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. The MSM wants to tank his campaign, they aren't voting April 22nd, we |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. YOU'RE taking the bait, David? Seriously? |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Try looking at it differently: |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. thanks for your concern, Obama "fan". |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. oh for pity's sake. David is a big Obama supporter |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. my apologies, then. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. no problem, lerkfish. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
80. It's cool. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
39. Most Americans don't expect perfection from our elected leaders. They just want someone who is REAL. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. Sorry. |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. It wouldn't hurt to get on the bus again for a few days..... |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. Too late now, we find ourselves in the midsts of an experiment. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
45. It didn't help that Obama made the comment while addressing San Francisco elitists.(eom) |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. I don't see "toothless hillbilly" from his comments at all |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
50. He'll get pounded for a week, then he'll re-group |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. Fox News: Republicans are going to hammer on this all the way to the election |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. It would have been better for Obama if he had made some of these... |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. private conversation with financial backers reveal more of who he really is |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
92. You betcha. n/t |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. That's good, Mr. 9 houses can call Obama "out of touch" all he wants to. Please, tell him to do such |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. Hillary knows Obama was referring to wedge issues, and so does everyone else. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. Yes, he screwed up. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
60. Really? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. I guess Bill Clinton did too... |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #62 |
91. He didn't use the word "cling" in close proximity to the words "religion" and "guns." |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
63. Makes you wonder... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
64. What did Barack Obama say that was untrue? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. nothing |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
66. Zephyr is the ONE, the ONLY Obama supporter who is being realistic about this. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. The OP's "toothless hillbilly" bit is utter horse-hockey. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. See what you want to see. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. It used to be called "the American Dream" for what it's worth. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Yeah, and I'll be paying on my student loans for another 20 years. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. You make my point exactly. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. No, there's a difference. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I seem to recall the "MASTER" making some gaffes of his own lately. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Too bad that there aren't any Hillary supporters out there who will speak their mind. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #81 |
101. I'm a Hillary supporter and I've criticized her several times. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. Dupe. |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
74. If this is the "biggest" political mistake you have ever seen then you must not have been following |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
75. I respectfully disagree. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
87. We always have to hope the "Good Hearts of the People" will win out... |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
78. I doubt any of us are saying they won't use it (um, they already are) |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
79. David, do you live in San Francisco? Because I think it best to hear from voters |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. "They" vote to protect their religion and their guns because they value them |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
85. self-delete |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
88. Zephyr is one of those guys |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
93. Zephyr, the saving grace is that there is no video footage (yet anyway) |
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
94. Watch this video, he was talking about this as early as 2004 |
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Jonathan2000 (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. Obama has started to bring up the Charlie Rose interview |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
96. Thanks for your thoughtful post. For what it's worth, IF he's the nominee |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
100. I don't think he lost any votes that were his to lose |
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