New Indiana SUSA Obama Collapsing - Clinton 55% Obama 39%

[sunonmars]

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportPopup.aspx?g=d8b46eaa-c463-408e-98d2-b830eb122d39&q=45558

Oh Dear he's collapsing in Indiana

Just look at these swings in a week

Indiana Men, Democrats, & Young Voters Move Away From Obama: In a Democratic Primary in Indiana today, 04/14/08, three weeks until the primary, Hillary Clinton defeats Barack Obama 55% to 39%, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for WCPO-TV Cincinnati and WHAS-TV Louisville. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll released two weeks ago, Clinton is up 3 points, Obama is down 4 points. Clinton had led by 9 at the beginning of April, leads by 16 mid-month. Here's where the movement is occurring: Among men, Obama had trailed by 2, now trails by 12, a 10-point swing to Clinton. In greater Indianapolis, Obama had led by 12, now trails by 1, a 13-point swing to Clinton. Among Democrats, Obama had trailed by 12, now trails by 27, a 15-point swing to Clinton. Among voters focused on health care, Clinton had led by 10, now leads by 30, a 20-point swing to Clinton. Among the youngest voters, Obama had led by 19, now trails by 2, a 21-point swing to Clinton.

Sorry I've been away for 8 weeks in Australia but I'm back with a Vengence.

[acrosstheuniverse]

1. thanks Hillary

and HELLO MCCAIN!

[AX10]

2. SUSA has been the most accurate this season.

And for those Obama people, don't give your myth crap about how "SUSA is not accurate".
We are in PA and will be in every other state fighting to win the nomination for Hillary!

[Edgewater_Joe]

4. So You DO Want McSame To Win, Don't You?

Hillary can only win if she continues to Swift Boat the entire party. If you really want that to happen, keep doing what you're doing.

[Tarc]

14. Let the chips fall where they may

It isn't Clinton's fault that Obama just denigrated a huge swath of the American public.

[rodeodance]

56. what a stupid ASSumption.

[cali]

9. Sorry, she's still in a close to untenable position

SUSA has done well this year, but there are still 3 weeks to go. And there's no evidence at all that SDs are moving to Clinton. She's still a very long shot.

[aquarius dawning]

55. Obama is winning because of A.) red state caucuses B.) the disenfranchisement of two states

and C.) the disproportionate support of a single demographic. The super delegates are nucking futs if they fail to consider the implications of these facts. Furthermore, they are fools if they think that a large number of Hillary supporters in most every state will be more comfortable voting for John McCain than Barack Obama and even worse yet, Obama is not winning the battle ground states, Hillary is. Barack Obama may look better in the primary run up but in the G|E, he's gonna get beaten. I would bet money on it.

[SoCalDem]

12. goody for you guys.. but no thanks to your "offer"

you like her?..make her Queen of Pennsylvania, and keep her:)

[bowens43]

20. Hillary has already lost.

Nothing you can do about it so continue wasting your time , your money and your efforts if you like. America is and is tired of the Clintons. Hillary will never be president.

[sunonmars]

3. Those swings are devestating.

[acrosstheuniverse]

6. no wonder we are so hated around the world

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Can You Elaborate?

America was much more popular around the world during the Clinton administration...I do rememember President Clinton getting a standing ovation at the U N and being met with adoring crowds whever he traveled abroad.

[avrdream]

54. And Bill is still very much loved down here in Oz.

Regarding the OP: SUSA has done quite well this polling season. No reason to not believe these numbers.

I also think Barack is going to have to spend extra time in other states and won't be able to make much of a dent in Indiana.

[Tarc]

5. Ahh, the "bitter" truth comes out

Obama just doesn't cut it.

[Edgewater_Joe]

7. The Bitter Truth: Clinton is McSame

And you apparently want McSame to win, since destroying the party is the ONLY way to win.

Damn right I'm bitter - and the rest of the party will be too if you keep on this track.

[Tarc]

29. Did you stop beating your wife?

Being opposed to the ineptitude of an Obama campaign does not mean that I want McCain to win.

Go take a few courses in elementary logic before you come try to talk with the adults again, ok?

[acrosstheuniverse]

10. We are just not fucking ready for a change in the country

[Cameron27]

23. Obama talks about hope & change,

but he won't bring any more change to the WH than Hillary would.

[Lord Helmet]

46. he IS change from the Bush-Clinton stranglehold on gov't

[IndianaJones]

8. there are lots of bitter and/or typical white people here. nt.

[acrosstheuniverse]

16. I blame this lousy shit on the media - the polls ALWAYS swing at the littlest things

And every little thing is picked apart non-stop by the pro-Mccain media.

[enid602]

22. Indiana

But lots of African Americans in and around Indianapolis and Gary, I would think. And so close to the Great One's home state of Illinois! I think Frenchie Cat and Babylon Stister need to jump on this one fast; major damage control/spinning needed.

[Faygo Kid]

11. Ouch. This hurts.

It ain't over yet. But this is not good. I only wish I was young enough to leave this country, because if it's Hillary-McCain, I have no choice.

[ErinBerin84]

19. Yeah...

I'm young, and I wish that I could use the "I want to leave the country" thing too...but the dollar sucks everywhere.

[goldcanyonaz]

26. Except Mexico. One can still live well there.

[ErinBerin84]

32. True

So there's still HOPE !!!!! Yes, I said it.
And on the CHANGE front, even though this is a played out joke, Pat Buchanan was saying the other day "Older people don't care about change...to them, change means going to the funeral parlor!" Ok, Pat is a dick, but I did laugh at that.

[enid602]

31. Bs As

Except Argentina. Buenos Aires is the Paris of the Western hemisphere. No wonder you'd want to leave if Hil gets elected, after what you've read here. Hill responsible for Iraq, economy, NAFTA, joblesness, and a nasty, evil bitch as well. Major de-programming will be necessary if she wins the nomination.

[ErinBerin84]

39. Yeah, I was for the most part joking.

Since a lot of people say "I'm leaving the country if so and so wins the election", or people say "If you are soooo unhappy, why don't you just leave the country?" I forget that sarcasm does not go over well on the internet.

[rug]

35. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[goldcanyonaz]

28. Many feel the same if it's Obama-McCain. Amazing how split we all are.

[aquarius dawning]

58. you can say that again.

[Faygo Kid]

13. Ouch. This hurts.

It ain't over yet. But this is not good. I only wish I was young enough to leave this country, because if it's Hillary-McCain, I have no choice.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

15. McCANE CHOOSES HIS RUNNING MATE

AND IT IS HILLARY

[Tarc]

21. /yawn

Y'know, I bet you are the first one to ever come up with the "OMG lets connect McCain to Hillary!" meme.

Seriously, gold star for you, for this stunning display of original thought.

[Texas Hill Country]

17. ouch, that is pretty brutal.

[jackson_dem]

24. Great news! Hope and change!

:bounce:

[AX10]

27. It seems that Indiana is hopeful, not bitter, as Mr. Obama suggests.

[JasonHill]

36. that makes no sense

if they were hopeful they wouldn't be swinging wildly on a comment taken out of context as an affront to an identity which has led many to reinforce the sense of victim hood they have rather than pro-actively taking steps to change it. It'd be one thing if they were changing over a policy issue, but this only reinforces the truth Obama was speaking of.

[Cameron27]

25. Yea!

K&R

[hayu_lol]

38. Lessee here, if McCain chooses Hillary to be his vp,

then that leaves Obama with KindaSleezy as his vp choice.

Back at cha!

[Triana]

30. Hello President McSame Pfft! (n/t)

[nebula]

33. So has the goalpost been officially moved to Indiana?

Pollster results for PA shows
4/13/08

Her 20-point lead has all but collapsed.

[burythehatchet]

37. I believe the goalposts are now officially in Puerto Rico.

[nebula]

41. Puerto Rico

I heard they will decide the election this year.

[MattNC]

34. not good

He should largely put his lead in NC in the bank and launch a major (more than he is already is) effort in Indiana.

[indimuse]

40. this is just the beginning..

K&R

[PetraPooh]

42. DO NOT BE TOO CONCERNED! Look at the "filters". Granted it says

that Reps and Indies are allowed to vote in the primary, but it
also states that of the 1600, only 571 were determined to actually be likely to vote in the primary. Could that mean that 1029 are likely republicans that aren't even going to vote in the democratic primary? This isn't as bad as it looks; breathe people.

"1,600 state of Indiana adults were interviewed 04/11/08 through 04/13/08. All interviews were completed before the Democratic candidates appeared in a "compassion forum" the evening of 04/13/08. Of the adults, 1,386 were registered to vote. Of them, 571 were determined by SurveyUSA to be likely to vote in the 05/06/08 Indiana Democratic Primary. Indiana has 72 Democratic convention delegates, which are awarded proportionally. Republicans and Independents are technically eligible to vote in Indiana's 'open' primary."

[1776Forever]

43. American Research Group Hillary Clinton 49% Barack Obama 46%

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/indiana.html

Democratic Polls

Research 2000 for South Bend Tribune WSBT TV WISH TV WANE TV
Date: 3/31-4/2
Indiana
Added: 4/4/08
Est. MoE = 4.9%
Hillary Clinton 49%
Barack Obama 46%
Unsure 2%
Other 3%
Source

[sunonmars]

47. That was 2nd April, i think we are way past that

[Vinca]

44. Polls take about a week to reflect the news.

He'll be up again next week.

[milkyway]

45. Thanks. Anything less than a 16% win should be regarded as a failure for Clinton.

That 16% margin should get even larger as all the happy voters turn against Obama. Clinton should win Indiana by at least 20%.

[aquarius dawning]

57. Talk about moving the goal posts.

:eyes:

[CreekDog]

48. How does this affect that other number: 1642 to 1506?

:shrug:

[uponit7771]

49. Any other polls have double digit HRC leads of BHO in Indiana? Thx

[Auntie Bush]

50. Welcome back with open arms!

We need more like you. You are in for a surprise as this place is much more hostile since you left. Lots of new people have crawled out from under the rocks. Warning! Put your flame suit on extra tight! Good Luck!

[sunonmars]

51. just in time for the fireworks, glad you didnt start without me.

[sunonmars]

52. Guys for the record

You honestly do not get swings like that unless there has been a huge honking collapse in support.

Sat what you like about SUSA, but they have been on the nail. I'd be seriously worried if I was the Obama campaign right now looking at those massive swings in the detail.

[MadBadger]

53. His lead remained steady in NC as well as in the Gallup Poll and regained the lead in Rasmussen.

[nichomachus]

59. McCain wants to run against Hillary -- tells staff to lay off her

Republican presidential hopeful John McCain has confided to his inner circle that Hillary Clinton may yet be the Democratic nominee, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, a development the senator from Arizona would personally welcome!

"Look, I know something about long odds, they had me written off last summer," McCain explained over the weekend, according to a top source.

McCain would prefer to go up against Clinton in the general election, insiders reveal.

He has instructed his campaign staff to "chill out" on countering Hillary Clinton's torrent of claims and promises as primary voting comes to an end over the next 6 weeks.

McCain made the tactical decision to downplay Clinton's tale of Bosnia sniper fire, leaving some McCain staffers frustrated and perplexed.

Instead, the critical focus has been on Barack Obama. McCain's official website features 14 press releases taking on Obama since the first of the year, only 3 for the former first lady.

http://drudgereport.com/flash1jm.htm