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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:38 PM
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America, if you fall for this nonsense, you deserve what you get
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 04:44 PM by lynyrd_skynyrd
If voters once again fall for this media manipulation regarding Obama's words, then the blood is on their hands.

It has been 28 years now that Republicans and DLC Democrats have succeeded in destroying the middle class while keeping the corporate power on top.

It has lead to the deaths of over 4000 troops and over one million innocent civilians within 5 years.

It killed over 3000 innocent people in the span of one day a little over 6 years ago.

It killed thousands a few years ago in a hurricane named Katrina.

It has killed millions of Americans via gun violence, non existent health care, pollution, and starvation.

By now, you'd think Americans have had enough. You'd think Americans have finally woken up. You'd think Americans wouldn't fall for it yet again.

We shall see whether "small town America" is going to once again bite down on the feeding pellet, or whether they finally stand up against the lies. Clinton thinks these typical and despicable tactics are going to work. Will America prove her wrong?

Either you get behind the Democratic nominee -Barack Obama- or you allow John McCain to maintain the status quo for another 4 years. Make your choice. If you make the wrong one, don't cry about it later, because the blood has been on your hands for a long time now, America.

Wash them.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:39 PM
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1. It's America's fault.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:39 PM
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2. superdelegates know what's up!
it's gonna be fine. Hill will get some consolation out of PA, and O will get the nom.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:40 PM
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3. why was the middle class doing better than ever under Bill Clinton then?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:43 PM
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11. Just more trickled down then ... thanks in great part to the tech sector
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:40 PM
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4. I'm washing my hands ... of DLC Dems ...
WE'RE TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK, damnit!
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:41 PM
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5. he ain't won it yet........
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:42 PM
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8. "he's going to be the next president...no offense"
great SNL opening.

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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:41 PM
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6. Obama wouldn't be in this mess if he didn't keep making "bone-headed"
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 04:41 PM by tritsofme
decisions like the comments he made that are causing this controversy.

2024 or bust. See you in Denver.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:43 PM
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12. "2024 or bust"????
explanation, please.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:47 PM
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14. That's the number of delegates Obama needs at the Convention to become the nominee.
Any less on the first ballot, and we go to a second ballot, where it's a whole new ballgame. (We could actually end up with Gore.:))
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:50 PM
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16. ok, thanks. I thought it was a reference to a year.
which didn't make any sense to me. Thanks for the clarification.


and I'm sorry, but the clinton campaign has already gone "bust".
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:56 PM
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19. Really, we could end up with Gore? Explain please because this would
make me very happy.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:06 PM
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20. At the Convention, there will be a first ballot on the Presidential nomination --
If no candidate gets a MAJORITY of the delegates, it goes to a second ballot. On the first ballot, pledged delegates are "pledged" and will vote as designated. SuperDs on both sides would be loath to abandon any declarations they have made in support of one candidate.

BUT, on the second ballot, both SuperDs and pledged delegates are completely freed from their previous committments: they may vote for Hillary or Obama or ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. The ballots contine that way through a third ballot or more if necessary until SOMEONE ends up with an overall majority. Like Al Gore.

It really could happen. There are still about 300 SuperDs who have made no committments whatsoever. There are even 18 pledged Edwards delegates who will not be voting for Obama or Hillary on the first ballot. (If somehow Michigan is seated, there will be 55 Michigan "uncommitted" delegates seated, if somehow Florida is seated, Edwards will pick up more delegates.) If Hillary and Obama are close enough, and enough of these SuperDs/"uncommitteds"/Edwards delegates DECLINE to vote for either one of them on the first ballot, neither one of them will achieve a majority. Then everything opens up wide.




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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:45 PM
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13. So He Makes Boneheaded Statements, While She Lies Straight To Our Faces On A Daily Basis...
I'll take the candidate trying to get to the truth, over the one that cannot seem to tell it, any day of the week.

:wtf:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:41 PM
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7. BINGO !!! - EXACTLY !!! - K & R !!!
:banghead:
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:43 PM
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9. "The blood has been on your hands for a long time now, America.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 04:43 PM by smalll
Wash them."

Hey, that's a great talking-point! Any way we can contact the Obama campaign? Maybe have them put out an ad with this as the tagline? Could we maybe even work it into Obama's stump speech?

(Pastor Wright, is that you?)
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:43 PM
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10. K'd & R'd
Keep your eye on the prize, friend.

We're gonna get there.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:49 PM
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15. You left out a choice, get rid of the elitist and nominate Hillary. She can win 2008.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:22 PM
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22. Sure she can, the heroine of Tuzla vs the prisoner of the Vietcong
Give me a break.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:50 PM
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17. kick
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:52 PM
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18. This kind of stuff (jumping on "bitter") etc
is the epitome of the "silly season". S.I.L.L.Y.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:09 PM
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21. K/R for truth.
:kick:
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:23 PM
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23. I'm leaving this country no matter what happens.
I'm so sick of "our" professional political class. These vile aristocratic enablers are keeping Americans stupid, irrational, and subservient, and I'm sick of seeing it. Machine politics makes me puke, and the democratic party is so tainted by the Clinton machine that it is an abomination. Fuck the DLC, fuck DLC Democrats, and fuck every fucking idiot "working class" loser who votes to keep the foxes running the hen house. You want your house taken by the bank, your kids dead in Iraq, and your job sent to the third world, then just keep letting TV dictate our politics. It's what you deserve and it's what you'll get.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:36 PM
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24. We deserved John Edwards but the MSM crucified his campaign and Obama said nothing! Nada!
The MSM hyped Obama like he was God, the Beatles and Elvis Presley rolled into one all last year, while John Edwards was actually talking about solutions for poverty.

Now, when Obama gets caught sucking up to the people with money, catering to their prejudices about poor folks in order to raise some cash, Obama supporters have the nerve to criticize the poor if they do not bow down before the MSM sanctified Obama.

The nerve of some people around here just amazes me. "you deserve what you get" This is Puritan bull shit. This is telling the unemployed and the poor that it is their own fault. This is the worst kind of classism.

I do not think that there is another person writing on DU who makes me feel the need to write as many threads of rebuttal as you do, lynard but I can not let this stand.

Blaming poor folks in America for their own poverty---that is really low.

:grr:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:15 PM
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25. Kick !!!
:kick:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:54 AM
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26. Amen.
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