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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:15 PM
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Hillary is guilty of a major rewrite of US history
First off she lied about Al Gore having lost the election. Secondly she attributes the closeness of the race to the "elitist" factor, which is also not true. If she was an honest woman, she would have said the reason the election was close enough to steal, was her husband couldn't keep it in his pants and then he lied about it. Had her husband behaved in a more honorable manner, Al Gore's margin of victory would have been so great, nothing short of a coup would have given shrub the White House.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:17 PM
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1. Actually, lies are when you put words into someone's mouth...like
you're doing...pathetic lies and distortions...that's all you Bots got these days.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:20 PM
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3. Lies are what comes out of Hillary's mouth, every time she speaks
Certain irony that you support a liar, who is on par with bush jr, yet you try and accuse others of lying. Nice try, but you support Hillary, so you don't support honor, honest or integrity. So any concerns along those lines are clearly disingenuous.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:22 PM
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4. Oh I thought lies
were when you say you ducked sniper fire but then when tape surfaces of you walking, smiling, waving, it becomes a misspeak, even you said the same thing at least three times before

thanks for Clarification DS
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:17 PM
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2. Oh the irony....
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:23 PM
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5. Bill Clinton just said "everywhere I go in North Carolina I see Signs"
Over seven stops in North Carolina, Clinton said "Everywhere I go there are all these people with signs, saying I'm not bitter - I'm not bitter."

Thing is........... there are no signs......
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/bill-clinton-ke.html
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:25 PM
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7. he also said he didn't have sex with Monica, honesty is something in very short supply
at camp Clinton.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:34 PM
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13. Some more Bill Clinton - 'straight talk'- And even Tiger Woods says he cheats
On Jan. 19, 1992 Bill Clinton said, "I want to make it very clear that this middle-class tax cut, in my view, is central to any attempt we're going to make to have a short-term economic strategy."

But on Jan. 14, 1993 at a press conference, Bill Clinton said, "From New Hampshire forward, for reasons that absolutely mystified me, the press thought the most important issue in the race was the middle-class tax cut. "I never did meet any voter who thought that."

Tiger Woods: Bill Clinton Cheats at Golf, Too
In Arkansas for a children's golf clinic, Tiger Woods was asked about playing golf with former President Bill Clinton.

"Interesting math," Woods said, drawing a laugh before telling a story about a round the two played in February before the opening of the Tiger Woods Learning Center in Anaheim, Calif.

Woods described a hole on the back nine.

"President Clinton rolls one in the bushes, then hits another one off the tee ... right in the middle of the fairway, hits a nice little wedge shot up there to about, I don't know, 6-7 feet.

"I hit a bad pitch, I blasted it by about 12 feet. ... Then all of the sudden, he does one of these," Woods said, gesturing like a player picking up his ball.

"It was 6-7 feet and he walked off the green. ... So I'm sitting in the cart. He's writing down the numbers, I happen to kind of ..." Woods said, leaning back as if reading a scorecard over someone's shoulder.

"Woods 4, Clinton 3."

http://failgolf.com/post/30309093
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:33 PM
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12. Well, to be fair, they 'planted' the astroturf a bit early.
The tools on whom they pasted the campaign stickers didn't have a clue what the campaign was about at the time.

It's faux manufactured poutrage. (Don't look behind that curtain.)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:24 PM
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6. Yes, everything is the fault of one Clinton or another. Whatevah.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:27 PM
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8. I guess you are from the school of thought that says the Clintons are such great and honest people
that they are never to be held accountable for anything they say or do.:eyes:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:35 PM
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14. My remark derives directly from the OP. Yours is nonsensical.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:40 PM
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15. If you support Hillary, you show extremely poor judgement
so your opinion is meaningless. No good DUer can still support Hillary after has attacked the Democratic party and liberal values. Used the city of San Fran in a scornful way. Lied lied and lied some more. Threw Gore and Kerry under a bus. Has attempted to kneecap Obama. Pretty much shown she has zero honor or any morals. The only thing important to Hillary is power.

So if you support someone like that, I don't think you share any of my values and I would no more expect you to agree with me, than I would a freeper.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:44 PM
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19. Skinner has a message for you
BEING A GOOD DU CITIZEN

Remember that simply because something is not forbidden by the DU rules does not mean it is constructive, civil, or appropriate. If you are serious about improving the tone in the GDP forum, you should start by becoming the type of DU citizen you expect others to be. Here are a few ideas:

Read the DU rules and follow them.

Call the candidates by their appropriate names: Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, or Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.

Do not refer to candidate supporters using derogatory names. Say "Clinton supporters" and "Obama supporters."

Do not make broad-brush statements about supporters of either candidate.

Remember that supporters of both candidates are good people who want what's best for this country, and for the world.

Don't just stick up for your own candidate. Defend BOTH candidates against unfair, misleading, bigoted, or otherwise inappropriate attacks.

Don't believe something simply because it is favorable to your candidate, or because it is unfavorable to the other.

Be extra sensitive when discussing issues related to race and gender.

Don't act like a jerk.

Don't be a hypocrite.

Use your brain.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:49 PM
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20. Maybe you ought to send that to Hillary
she needs it way more than I do.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:59 PM
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22. Hillary is discussing what a good DUer is or isn't? That would seem more Skinner's realm, no?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:06 PM
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24. Hillary would be tombstoned here on DU if she said the things here
that she has been saying on the campaign trail.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:28 PM
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9. Where is the link or links to what Hillary actually said?
Al Gore didn't want Bill Clinton's help. Maybe you forgot: he wanted to be his own man.....?

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:41 PM
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16. He didn't want his help, because Clintons bad behavior had tainted
his legacy and would have hurt Gore more than helped him.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:02 PM
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23. Clinton left office with the highest popular rating of any modern President. His support...
....during the 2000 election could only have helped Gore.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:11 PM
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26. I think we can all understand why now...
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 09:15 PM by stillcool47
who knew? These are just a few from this Campaign Season alone! All on tape at the link. What a hoot to watch!

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/bill-and-hillary-clintons-top-5-lies-to-voters-on-the-campaign-trail/
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s Top 8 Lies to Voters on the Campaign Trail
#1 Bill Clinton lied to voters at their rallies and said he had been opposed to the Iraq war from the start.

#2 Hillary Clinton lied and said she had been opposed to NAFTA. After an advocacy group sued to have her First Lady records released, it was revealed that she had supported and advocated for NAFTA.

#3 Hillary Clinton lied to voters about a trip to Bosnia claiming she was running for cover and did not attend a greeting ceremony.

#4 Bill Clinton lied to voters about Barack Obama’s Iraq record.

#5 Bill Clinton just completely made up a story to supporters about Obama dismissing the 90s.

#6 Hillary Clinton said she was instrumental in helping bring peace to Northern Ireland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCmKkLdCuA&eurl=http://... /

#7 Hillary Clinton lied to Iowa and New Hampshire voters about whether she would try to count the Florida and Michigan primaries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C08W-jgyLlA&eurl=http://... /

#8 Hillary Clinton lied at one of her rallies and said she began criticizing the Iraq War before Barack Obama did
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/bill-and-hillary-clintons-t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:28 PM
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10. Don't forget about how she was against NAFTA from the beginning.
Lie lie lie...
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:33 PM
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11. HELLO!
No matter what you say - if you are not delusional about Hillary and sticking your fingers in your ears and singing real loud you are going to be called a liar. But I'll bet you knew that when you posted this.:hi:

I would not go as far as to say that Gore lost the election (which he did not) was due to Clinton's inability to behave like a married man and remain true to his vows... I saw what happened and that election was stolen outright. It has been suggested, had Clinton have been allowed to run for a third term, he would have been reelected. He was still at a 50% approval rating at the end of his second term.

I think I want to watch this for a while :popcorn:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:43 PM
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18. Gore won, but his margin would have been much greater
head Bill behaved himself. If he hadn't tarnished his reputation, he could have been a major help to Gore. Instead georgie boy and cheney were able to get away with bullshit comments like "bring honor back to the White House".
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:42 PM
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17. "If she was an honest woman"... LMFAO.. We know that isn't so..
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 05:53 PM
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21. Granted these are only a few...
from this Primary Season but they are all on tape..which you can see at the link. A real hoot to watch!


http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/bill-and-hillary-clintons-top-5-lies-to-voters-on-the-campaign-trail/
Bill and Hillary Clinton’s Top 8 Lies to Voters on the Campaign Trail
#1 Bill Clinton lied to voters at their rallies and said he had been opposed to the Iraq war from the start.

#2 Hillary Clinton lied and said she had been opposed to NAFTA. After an advocacy group sued to have her First Lady records released, it was revealed that she had supported and advocated for NAFTA.

#3 Hillary Clinton lied to voters about a trip to Bosnia claiming she was running for cover and did not attend a greeting ceremony.

#4 Bill Clinton lied to voters about Barack Obama’s Iraq record.

#5 Bill Clinton just completely made up a story to supporters about Obama dismissing the 90s.

#6 Hillary Clinton said she was instrumental in helping bring peace to Northern Ireland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCmKkLdCuA&eurl=http://... /

#7 Hillary Clinton lied to Iowa and New Hampshire voters about whether she would try to count the Florida and Michigan primaries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C08W-jgyLlA&eurl=http://... /

#8 Hillary Clinton lied at one of her rallies and said she began criticizing the Iraq War before Barack Obama did

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/bill-and-hillary-clintons-top-5-lies-to-voters-on-the-campaign-trail/
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:15 PM
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25. On the subject of lies
I literally just got done watching the forum on tape. She didn't say Gore lost the election. She did say, correctly, that Gore got portrayed as not caring about mainstream values. If you are going to call other liars get your own facts straight.
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