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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:16 PM
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Politico on Tweetie: Obama won't get Jewish, low income white or Latino votes.
That's what he said the Clintons are telling Super delegates.

So, if this report is true, the Clintons have never stopped marginalizing Obama as the black candidate that only liberal elites and black people will vote for.

Are Super delegates stupid enough to believe this?

(And as always, the Clintons are so uplifting in their focus on issues that matter to voters losing their homes, their health, their children in Iraq, their pensions, their jobs, their hope in a better future for their families.)



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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:18 PM
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1. And don't you just love how she continues to explain why she would
be a great President, instead of tearing the other guy down. :sarcasm:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:18 PM
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2. Well, first of all, just because HE said it doesn't mean it's true
What was his source?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:20 PM
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3. It's in the OP. It was an editor at the Politico AND
I said "if this is true".
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:23 PM
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7. Sorry, didn't mean to get testy, but everyone is suddenly saying this.
I haven't heard Hillary discuss it at all.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:32 PM
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20. I put the link to the article in #19. And, we're ALL a little testy. lol
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:24 PM
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13. This, likely
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:20 PM
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4. I saw that guy and this is what happened
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:22 PM by crankychatter
Matthews dug in on "who said what? on what do you base this?"

he kept back pedalling with vague "on my authority, as an insider watching the Clintons" blah blah

Then... he owned it... He said his op ed was based on the demographic data from polls... spewing all the usual

It was JUST HIS OPINION, and nothing else.

pseudo authority, trying to get airtime and credibility by ascribing his OWN beliefs to the Clintons

it was just a sideways way to get the spin out there

for all I know he WAS speaking for the Clintons and QUITE directly...

THAT's the irony...

he should be waterboarded
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:23 PM
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8. Clintons are getting ever so close to becoming racist.
Using race to get elected is disgusting.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:26 PM
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15. Yep. A way to catapult the propaganda.
But, it does sort of match up with earlier messages out of the Clinton campaign about Jews, Latinos and low income white people.

He did a terrible job -- it was just so naked.

Then, another guy went on to say that's a loser for Hillary because she can't win without the black vote or the youth vote. :crazy:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:30 PM
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35. I thought Matthews made him look pretty foolish. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:22 PM
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5. good on Hillary. The job of SD is to choose who can best win the GE.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:23 PM
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6. Hopefully, Super Delegates Understand Rev Wright and Louis Farrakhan
and the Nation of Islam.

Enough said.

Do your homework.







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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:25 PM
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14. Yep. I know people who fit the categories
in the OP and they ain't voting Obama.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:27 PM
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17. I'm sure they understand the Clinton's use of the Reverend Wright.
And I agree, you've said enough.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:32 PM
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21. Actually, there is a long history there and
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:33 PM by BeatleBoot
the right wing will let everyone know about it before Halloween.

My party has its blinders on.

Again, I beg you. Do your homework.









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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:33 PM
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22. Innuendo. My blinders aren't good enough to screen out your bullshit.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:39 PM
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29. Okee. Dokee.
I wish you the best. You are a dynamic person. And I respect your viewpoint.

And, just so you know, I am voting for a Dem this fall.

But I'll tell you this: Homework trumps bullshit, any day.












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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:38 PM
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28. LOL!
Super Delegates understand that he's a stronger candidate than hills. That's why she's gotten virtually no SD endorsements for months and he's gotten over 70. duh.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:23 PM
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9. Shows what they know about the Jewish vote n/t
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:23 PM
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10. Who was it?
The lovely Mike Allen or the delightful Ben Smith? Which one of the Democrat's not concerned "friends" at Politico was it?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:35 PM
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24. I put a link to the article in #19 abut don't know which of the two authors
it was.

He was pretty slimey. The problem is, it's hard to tell any more if I'm listening to divisive RW slime or the newer, closer variety.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:24 PM
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11. If "he" says it, it must be true.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:28 PM
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18. Did you read the OP? I hope not. lol
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:31 PM
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19. This is the link to the article the guest was talking about but
I don't know which of the authors he was. Shoot me.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9564.html
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:52 PM
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34. Did he look like this?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:24 PM
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12. This Jew Will Vote For Obama!
And I'll have a word with my kin who run the media from an underground vault - maybe they can help Barack out a little.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:26 PM
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16. Only anecdotal, but every one of my Jewish family members
(extended), are passionate supporters of Obama.

And the whole line of thinking that groups of people who tend toward Clinton in the primaries won't therefore vote Dem in November is screwy.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:34 PM
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23. Another Jew for Obama here
and my whole fam damily too!

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:36 PM
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25. Politico's wrong - Ben's wrong.
He got one Jewish low income vote - mine.

Hawkeye-X
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:41 PM
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30. And, I'm a Latina. But the pitch was just so contrived
it made me think, this could well be what is happening behind the scenes.

They tried to use Farakhan to disaffect "the Jewish vote". They've tried to use race to distance a portion of the white vote. I don't know how the hell they figure Latinos won't vote for Obama, lol, since some of us *are* black.

Obama is a great candidate for Latinos. He communicates as a quietly successful man of faith, family and community. In fact, I'd be willng to bet he could get a record number of Latinos out exactly for those reasons. :shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:38 PM
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26. No SuperDees are smarter than clinton
and all her rag tag team of operatives and then some.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:42 PM
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31. Thank you.
lol
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:38 PM
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27. well......, Rev Wright, Farrakhan, having tea with Qaddafi and Obama's Palestinian remarks
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:40 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
:think: it might have some affect on the Jewish vote
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:44 PM
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32. Sure
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:45 PM by gmudem
Wright got hashed plenty. Nobody cares. Farrakahan? LMAO at you for thinking anybody will give a shit about that or that there is anything there to begin with.

You can keep wishing but there are already plenty of Jews for Obama, and I myself have a Jewish background and most of my family is for Obama. Me and my father are a couple of New York Jews who absolutely cannot stand Clinton.

There's also this.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2008/04/hillary-clintons-little-noticed-israel-problem.html
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:45 PM
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33. Kein Anu Yecholim (Yes We Can)
A statement and long list of Jewish endorsers at http://jews4obama2008.wordpress.com/

Okay, the Clintons have more Jews, for reasons I don't understand ... but liberal progressive Jews are backing Obama in large numbers. In fact, I believe a recent poll has them almost splitting the Jewish vote.
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