Is it just me or...

[Brundle_Fly]

is Hillary's latest attack coming off as incredibly desperate?

seriously, I am a Canadian, and these kinds of politics don't really fly here, and if they did the news wouldn't give it any coverage, so please explain to me how this isn't a completely manufactured ( and in mho: LAME) last hour desperation attack?

seems like a bad joke to me....

We'd never have a member of the same party do this to another party member... it's unimaginable.

[C_U_L8R]

1. bad joke and bad acting

brought to you by a bad actor

[goldcanyonaz]

2. I see you're from Canada, can you even vote in the US?

[gabeana]

3. Is there a law against a canadian posting on this board?

[babylonsister]

8. What do you know. "Ignored" said something ignorable! nt

[goldcanyonaz]

41. And, Mrs. White America speaks for me. NOT!

[goldcanyonaz]

9. Only if they're a Clinton supporter.

[SunsetDreams]

11. how rude!

sorry to the OP for that posters rude comment.

[goldcanyonaz]

15. Would it have been rude had he been a Clinton supporter?

[Brundle_Fly]

21. how do you know who I support?

it was a question...

as it was pointed out, (sorta) i can't vote.

[Brundle_Fly]

6. Of course I can't vote in the US....

Can you even vote in Canada?

wtf?

[goldcanyonaz]

10. WOW! SERIES!! You can't even vote in the US??

:rofl:

At least your monies worth more here.

[NanceGreggs]

35. WOW! SERIES!

You mean it actually comes as a surprise to you that Canadian citizens don't vote in US presidential elections?

But judging by your grammar ("your monies worth more here"), your ignorance is apparently far-reaching indeed.

[rodeodance]

23. but you come on board with more crap. But glad your RW gov make crap for obama over nafta.

[Brundle_Fly]

25. I asked a question

I haven't gotten an answer, but you decided to insulted the canadian government instead?

Brilliant debate so far guys.

[Brundle_Fly]

29. what about your RW government

if you want to go down that road....

[DerekJ]

40. rodeodance, Don't make me start on the difference between our government, and yours.

The status of women in Canada versus yours..
The status of the GLBT in Canada versus yours...
The status of minorities in Canada versus yours..
The status of human rights in Canada versus yours ..
The status of accountability in the Canadian government versus yours..
The status of Health Care in Canada versus yours..
The standard of living in Canada versus yours..

It's an argument you can't win.

[DerekJ]

39. Got a problem with Canadians posting here?!!

Let me know...

[Brundle_Fly]

51. and you didn't SEE I was from Canada,

you read it, because I wrote it in my op.

If you don't like Canadians posting on this board you'd best take it up with Skinner, he's welcomed us since the beginning.

So get used to it.

[Archnemesis]

4. It's not only you

She used to stick to legit issues. Now she's circulating GOP talking points. That is desperation if you ask me.

[donheld]

5. It's not just you

Seems to be a large majority of the US.

[babylonsister]

7. It's 'molehill politics' ...and Hillary is looking like a bad joke to me, too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x352297

[DemGa]

12. Hillary's just giving it back -- hard

Maybe you've missed the kind of tactics Obama and his campaign have used -- he may pretend he's clean, but he's not. For example, Obama has run a campaign to smear Hillary as a liar since this began -- character assassination.

[Brundle_Fly]

14. okay...

but didn't she actually "Lie?"

I mean if a politician had claimed to have been under sniper fire here, the press would have eviscerated them, not gone with the "misspoke"

I don't recall Obama commenting on it.

[DemGa]

26. They've been at this "Hillary is a liar" smear all the while

They've done all they can to foster that perception; so when the sniper story appears, they do sit back to some degree and reap the rewards of their work. Not to say his campaign is not busy working to get the message out -- they certainly are doing that.

[Brundle_Fly]

27. okay

give me some examples of the liar attacks from the Obama camp.

[DemGa]

33. Alright

Biased, but properly sourced.

http://www.attacktimeline.com/

“People have heard a lot of things that just aren’t true from the mouth of the First Lady, from the mouth of the former president, from the mouth of the campaign," said Robert Gibbs, Obama’s communications director."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8002.html

"Senator Clinton has consistently made political calculations to deliberately mislead the American people and the voters have noticed.

it’s time that Senator Clinton be questioned aggressively about this pattern of misleading voters.

A history of misleading voters"

http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-clinton-misleading-voters/


Q. Has she been truthful to voters about what she would do as president?

A. “No.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/27/us/politics/28q-aobam...

[gabeana]

18. So Hillary didn't lie about Bosnia?

I can't wait for your answer

[Bluebear]

13. With the composition of this board did you honestly expect anyone to say "it's just you!"

[bridgit]

16. heh-heh...

;)

[Brundle_Fly]

19. I expected...

an argument as to why its not coming off as desperate.

Not questioning of my being here, there is lots of interest here in canada, I have been a member since 2004.

No I can't vote, but the outcome will effect me nonetheless.

[Bluebear]

24. Oh, I love Canada and Canadians.

I know our election affects you, but one glance at GDP would lead you to believe that 90% of people will agree with you.

[GoldieAZ49]

17. This started at HuffPo, then the MSM picked it up and Hillary started using it

This really is the first thing she could use without the racist charge being leveled against her

American Politics is not for the faint of heart

[mtnsnake]

20. How's those Leafs doing in the playoffs this year? (snicker)

Golf Leafs Golf! :evilgrin:

[Brundle_Fly]

22. My Heart is with Calgary....

=)

[mtnsnake]

28. Good comeback

Craig Conroy is a local hero, born and brought up in my area of northern NY.

[Bigleaf]

30. Hi Brundle. I was born and raised in Canada and now have dual-citizenship. I agree that this shit

would not fly up in the Great White North. It is desperation and it's not going to work although the media is trying to stir the shit up as much as they can. That's why I brought my Canadian satellite with me and watch CBC for my news. I agree with you that you don't pull this shit on a fellow party member. Fuck, even the Repubs wouldn't pull this shit on their own. Off-topic Brundle, can you imagine George Bush in the House of Commons during debate as the leader of Canada? hahahahahaha Fuck, that would be priceless. Bush having to defend his bullshit and think on the fly?

[Brundle_Fly]

31. We'll still have you back too...

after the collapse. =)

P.S. I can't imagine bush in the Taiwanese Parliament let alone the Kanucks.

[Bigleaf]

36. I own a house in Toronto so I'm covered if need be.

[Brundle_Fly]

37. I'm right here in T.O. Beaches

we could be neighbours!

[Bigleaf]

38. We are. I grew up at Kingston Rd and Dundas. I bought a house in 'Pleasantville' @ Queen/Woodbine.

I love the Beach area. We're going to retire there.

[JBoy]

32. Hey Brundle_Fly, another Canadian here

Of course it's a manufactured last gasp, and the media is eating it up.

You're right that this kind of stuff wouldn't happen in Canada. We prefer to do our intra-party backstabbing behind closed doors!

[Brundle_Fly]

34. damned straight we do~!!

Hey did you see the last game with Vancouver / Calgary?

So classy... =)

[goldcanyonaz]

42. Are you able to vote in the states?

[JBoy]

47. Are you trying to tell me to shut up?

[goldcanyonaz]

54. Nope, but if you can't vote in our election...

who really cares what Canada thinks?

[JBoy]

55. You don't have to care about what I think.

I participate because I'm interested and care about the outcome, and I think many on DU like hearing an international perspective.

[Metric System]

43. Your post is hilarious. If you are really Canadian, I feel bad that you know so little about

Canadian politics. Apparently this Canadian poster has never heard tell of the legendary Jean Chretien/Paul Martin intra-party feud which ultimately helped to usher in Canada's current Conservative government. Hell, there's even internal fighting going on within the Liberal party right now between the Liberal leader Stephane Dion's camp and Michael Ignatieff's camp. If you are Canadian, you're blissfully unaware.

[goldcanyonaz]

44. What they said! IN YOUR FACE!!!

[JBoy]

49. 99% of that feud was behind closed doors

Not on the stump, in front of cameras and on TV ads.

[Brundle_Fly]

50. Ah yes I remember Jean Chretien being all over CBC/FOX

slamming Paul Martin repeatedly for his elitism, and out of touchedness.

It was maybe a 3 night Rex Murphy chit chat. Hardly the same thing.

AND

Didn't the Liberals got themselves kicked out via the Sponsorship scandal?

Maybe I do know a thing or two... they hardly ushered in the Conservatives with their dislikes. Get Real.

EDIT TO ADD...UM FACTS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsorship_scandal

[Mooney]

45. WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN????!!!!!????!!!!

/sarcasm

[Two Americas]

46. the other way

I am seeing a little desperation from the other side tonight for the first time.

This business of Clinton destroying the party or the other candidate is mostly a matter of people here repeating and repeating it until they believe it - it is a feeding frenzy with people whipping up outrage in one another over little or nothing, and then getting more and more excited and worked up each time they hear it again. It is an amazing thing to watch. It can't be much fun, can it?

People seem awfully desperate in their accusations of desperation, but that seems to be a feature of this campaign season - lots of projection, and confusion about cause and effect.

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Actually these kinds of attacks don't fly almost anywhere else

not only in Canada....

Ah yes, one more reason to become the laughing stock of the world

[Jed Dilligan]

52. The vast majority of DU welcomes you, Canadian brother/sister.

[Brundle_Fly]

53. thank you....

don't want to go and have to sit in the International forums my entire visit here.

[JBoy]

56. Seriously, the Canada forum is like visiting Grandma's

GD-P is a raging kegger.