Why do I feel like I am taking my life into my own hands when I bring Barack up to women?

[truthpusher]

I have not seen women this pissed off at me... ever! Some of the women that I have most admire for there beliefs and politics are suddenly acting like I am the worst person alive because I support Obama? From the reactions I have been getting, you would think Obama eats babies in his spare time? What is it that women find so horrific about him? Is it that they think Hilary needs protecting? I really don't get it? Seriously, WTF is going on?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. You're taking your life in your hands now.

:popcorn:

[cliffordu]

2. Odd. None of the women in my life like her at all.

They are ALL voting for Obama.


:patriot:

[Cha]

20. All the women and the men I know are

supporter Obama and have the intelligence to see right through hilary and her lies from day one.

[Darth_Kitten]

59. Intelligent people are people who support a candidate.......

based on what they stand for, not just to be "one of the crowd".

It doesn't matter if you decide to vote for Clinton or Obama, just do it for the RIGHT reasons. :eyes:

[Growler]

25. Ditto!!

My girlfriend should be in Hillary's demographic: older, educated.... but she's so mad at Hillary for trying to destroy the Democratic party she can barely talk about her any more.

[Darth_Kitten]

58. Yeah, right........

:eyes:

[Liberal Gramma]

3. I can't explain it but I am both a woman and an Obama supporter.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was running unopposed.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Which women would those be?

I'm not personally acquainted with any women who are supporting Hillary. Or men, for that matter.

[Beacool]

19. You must lead an isolated life................ n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

23. No, I don't lead an isolated life.

Pretty active in local politics, as a matter of fact. We just don't see a lot of Hillary supporters in my district.

[Beacool]

33. Well, go to PA and you'll see plenty.

Particularly after his "bitter" comments. We had a great weekend campaigning, people couldn't wait to express their anger at his comments. Some were even walking into our office just to vent.

[papau]

54. LOL :-)

:-)

[seabeyond]

63. i do lead isolated life, but more i live in texas, but even with that i still see NO hillary

and a couple obama. now i know there are hillary, i saw them at convention, but not anyone i know. the few dem voters i know are going obama

oh... and woman here

[AX10]

5. That could be because women resent the way...

she has been treated.

[mckeown1128]

8. yeah... how dare Obama supporters not vote for her... nt

[JeffR]

14. Yes, that simply MUST be it.

Very insightful.

[Hugabear]

15. She is being treated like any other fucking candidate

Get over it. You folks really think that other presidential candidates haven't fared much worse in the past? You have no fucking problem dishing it out to Obama and his supporters, but when you face any sort of criticism, you start screaming about "dirty politics". Hell, this hasn't even really gotten personal yet! The vast majority of attacks I've seen on Clinton have been on issues, her statements, and her history - you know, those vile "right-wing" tactics that you folks scream about whenever you don't want anyone touching Her Highness.

If you think it's bad now, you better find a deep bunker somewhere if Hillary does manage to win the nomination.

[John Q. Citizen]

46. By Bill? Or by Bill's women? Is that who they think is treating her poorly?

Our Missoula for Obama office is stafffed by women volunteers, most of them are older retired women who are gung ho for Obama.

I don't think they like the way Bill treats Hill though.

They also don't like Hill (or Bill) endorsing the Republican candidate for president.

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

Uhhh.. take it easy with those assumptions and generalizations.

Plenty of us ugly, shrill old white frumps like Obama but don't like being sneered at.

[woolldog]

53. ....

:hug:

[Adelante]

66. Hear, hear, ocelet!

I am 100% for Obama. But some of the sexism and ageism I see here pisses me off, too.

Another ugly, shrill old white frump for Obama :hi:

[TheDonkey]

7. Women I know like Obama. Find new friends!

:)

[truthpusher]

9. I Can't! one of them is my wife.....

...I don't even bring the topic up anymore...

[Levgreee]

10. if anyone actually believes what Hillary has said, they'd think Obama was a very bad man

that is the truth of the matter for the disdain for some women, they trust Hillary to tell the truth, have a personal relationship with her, and she has been talking negatively about Obama for months.

[truthpusher]

18. beware of the wolf...

...I think you are right...

[SheilaT]

11. I'm a middle-aged white woman

who supports Obama. Not quite 60 yet, but I will be by election day.

[myrna minx]

12. I guess you need to diversify your friends.

All of my female friends are Obama supporters. :shrug:

[goldcanyonaz]

13. I think his name is spelled B A R A C K, but aside from that we're gonna win Colorado!

:woohoo:

[truthpusher]

29. thanks

[blonndee]

16. Not this woman!

"Horrific?"

Hardly. In fact, quite the opposite. :)

[Beacool]

17. I don't know about your friends,

but I wouldn't vote for Obama even if he were running uncontested. I think that he is not prepared nor deserving of the presidency. His personality also rubs me the wrong way, he's an arrogant guy and yes, he is elitist.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. Isn't the word you're looking for "uppity" rather than "arrogant"?

[AX10]

22. As you said.

[Quixote1818]

32. I will bet you a million bucks that you liked Obama before he started beating Hillary. nt

[Beacool]

37. I was neutral about every candidate running except for Giuliani.

I think that he's a creep who shouldn't run even for dog catcher.

The rest of the Repugs. I didn't dislike on a personal level, I just don't agree with their policies.

The Dems. I was neutral on all of them, but was a Hillary supporter from the beginning. Obama I always found a bit arrogant and too inexperienced to be president this time around. I still think so, but now I also feel nothing but utter disdain for the fellow.

[Quixote1818]

41. Why do you suppose the vast majority on DU have had the exact same reaction to Hillary

as you have had to Obama? Keep in mind that most DUers including myself were Edwards supporters and now that it's between Obama and Clinton 90% have turned to Obama. You liked Hillary all along and turned on Obama when it ended up between your candidate and him. For most of us, we turned against Hillary because of her tactics. Since Obama wasn't our candidate don't you think we would tend to be more fair in turning against Hillary then someone who supported Obama from the beginning?

When being 100% truthful with yourself, is your hate for Obama because you support Clinton or out of solid reasoning?

[Jed Dilligan]

48. You were neutral about McCain, Romney, and Huckabee?

:crazy:

[DeadElephant_ORG]

51. self delete

[Jed Dilligan]

24. I haven't met one woman who judged me for my support of him.

[SunsetDreams]

26. That would be the real world lol

[Jed Dilligan]

47. Yep.

This is online, where "women" aren't always what they say they are.

[scheming daemons]

27. Maybe those women are mad because you continuously spell Barack's first name wrong..

....

:shrug:

[Arugula Latte]

28. That's really weird. For the most part, the women I know like Obama and not Hillary.

Seriously, only a few people I know like Hillary. Of those, I don't think any of them have anything against Obama; they just prefer Hillary. Of the people I know who do have a preference, including women, the vast majority are strong and enthusiastic for Obama. Many of them expressly do not like Hillary; a few are neutral on her.

The strongest Hillary supporter I've known is my mother in law. She spoke for Hillary at a caucus. In the past week, though, she's been expressing that she's considering switching over to Obama.

[Kool Kitty]

30. Start hanging around with different women.

I'm a middle-aged (a stretch really, I'm 55) white woman and I'm voting for Obama. So are my female friends. McCain-now, that's a different story. He's truly terrifying.

[Quixote1818]

31. My sister is one of those Women. She voted for Reagan but is a huge Hillary supporter

she also supported Mondale because Ferraro was on the ticket. She says if Hillary loses she will vote for McCain and she hates Obama. Luckily my other three sisters are much more reasonable and are for Obama.

[AZBlue]

34. I'm a woman for Obama and every woman I know supports him.

You need to find new friends, LOL!

[Darth_Kitten]

61. Maybe you need to move out of your little clique.

Just saying......

[AZBlue]

72. Just saying...you know nothing about me and are assuming foolishly.

I'm involved in a variety of professional associations, several charitable organizations and have a rolodex that I've been offered cash for (literally). My contact list is enviable and still I don't know any woman who supports Hillary Clinton. Actually, come to think of it, I don't know any men either. See, I don't hang around with foolish people...

Not that any of that's your business, but I just had to explain to you the absurdity of making assumptions about people based upon your own prejudices and hate. It's self-limiting and only makes you look bad, not me.

[stillcool]

35. It's not 'women'...

it's those women you know. I don't know why your friends have a problem with Senator Obama. Maybe you should educate them. Or not.

[Darth_Kitten]

64. Maybe they are old and wise enough to make their own choices?

n/t

[stillcool]

68. aren't we all?

[gristy]

36. So you know a few women, and you generalize your experience to apply to all women?

Why is that?

[Raine1967]

38. Uhm, Is it the women you talk to...

or is it you?

Cause it certainly is not most dems...

Not sure what you are implying, But not all women find him horrific, actually most women I know don't at all.. does not matter where their support lies...Don't play the mysogyny game.

If this is about the women you know, why ask people on a MB about something so personal???

Come on. This is strawman question.

:peace:

[truthpusher]

40. I have seen some extremely strong responses from women...

...I have not gone around talking to lots of women about this election, but the few that I have have been extremely strong Hilary supporters that act like I do not support HRC because of her femaleness more so than her political-ness. The women that I usually talk to about politics are typically more socially acting and aware... that's why I like talking to them... but this election cycle is different... they cut the conversation dead because they feel like I am not open to electing a women? I find it strange that such usually open minded women seem closed off when it comes to this topic... I find the whole thing very odd.

[woolldog]

55. It's extremely personal to them.

They probably identify with Clinton so much, they see themselves in her. Therefore every attack on her cuts them, every criticism of her is a criticism of them, every triumph of hers is a triumph of theirs and so on...

[NC_Nurse]

39. I have a friend who is for Hillary. She knows I'm for Obama.

We just don't discuss it. I have plenty of other friends who are for him. Not a problem.

[TragedyandHope]

42. You never know, you might find one of these.

[lmbradford]

74. Hey.....

That sign fits me too.

[PerfectSage]

43. Sounds like a concern troll,push/poll granite cookie flamebait thread.

[anonymous171]

44. A lot of women have projected this uber-feminist image onto her.

[Mooney]

45. All the women in my life are Obama supporters.

My mother, my sister, my wife, my mother-in-law, our day care provider, my sister-in-law, and all my female friends.

The one Hillary supporter I know is a man, interestingly enough.

[dkf]

49. By women I think you mean woman...lol

Yeah its tough when your SO is supporting someone else.

[Big Blue Marble]

50. Every woman I know either has voted for Obama

or will and that is in every age group from twenties to mid-sixties. I have yet to talk to any woman who
is for Hillary. Yesterday, I was at Obama Headquarters here meeting with over 30 volunteers. With the exception
of two men, we were all women, again all ages although mainly over forty.

[splat]

52. He reminds us of that slick ex, the one who turned out to be a lounge lizard

And the piling on his bandwagon by male media seems almost unconscious. It mirrors the power structures where women work. The sneers, the dismissal, all seem to be an overt expression of the old boy network's closed circles. How dare she...

[bowens43]

56. I don't know. All the women I know support Obama. Every single one of them.

[Darth_Kitten]

62. I know women who don't constantly need approval or a pat on the head...

and they support Hillary.

[shaniqua6392]

57. Some women resent the way she has been treated.

Some women think that if Obama ate a baby on live television, excuses would be made about him just being hungry.

[Vinca]

60. You must be kidding with this post. All the women I know want

to give Barack a big hug and plant a kiss on his cheek.

[splat]

67. It seems to me more men want to hug him -- lots of women think he's an upstart

[union_maid]

65. Most of the women I know are for Obama

And most of them are older women. Actually, two of the most loyal Hillary supporters that I do know are men. Also, out here in real life, even those who support Hillary are perfectly calm about someone supporting Obama. And vice-versa. There's not all this hate on either side. They just want one of them to win in November. Pretty much all the young people I know of either sex are for Obama.

[ecstatic]

69. Hillary is a dirty word 'round these parts

:shrug:

[gal]

70. I'm a woman and I support Obama.

The women who are supporting Hillary only because she is a woman is hurting other women.
Womens right is about being treated and treating others as equal and that means using your brains.
Any one that goes to vote should be voting on the candidate and how they relate to the issues NOT because of the sex.
I have seen so many women accuse men of sexism just because they disagree with Hillary on issues. It blows my mind. It's women who act like that that are hurting women.

I support Obama not because he is a male, not because he is black.
I am a white woman who agrees with him on the issues. If the women don't like that it's to dam bad.

[BlueStateGirl]

71. I don't know. Probably just because we are incapable of rational

thought and the mere mention of a man drives us all into some sort of homocidal rage? Or maybe that's the women who support Hillary. <rme>




I support Hillary and someone mentioning Barak does not have that effect on me.


But feel free to keep painting with your broad brush.

[kwenu]

73. Stop hanging around geriatric sorority girls.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/laff-riot-good-ole-boy-hillary-clinton