Lieberman: "And I wouldn’t...I’d hesitate to say he’s a Marxist"

[kpete]

NAPITALIANO: Hey Sen. Lieberman, you know Barack Obama, is he a Marxist as Bill Kristol says might be the case in today’s New York Times? Is he an elitist like your colleague Hillary Clinton says he is?

LIEBERMAN: Well, you know, I must say that’s a good question. I know him now for a little more than three years since he came into the Senate and he’s obviously very smart and he’s a good guy. I will tell ya that during this campaign, I’ve learned some things about him, about the kind of environment from which he came ideologically. And I wouldn’t...I’d hesitate to say he’s a Marxist, but he’s got some positions that are far to the left of me and I think mainstream America.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/14/lieberman-its-a-good-question-to-ask-if-obama-is-a-marxist/

[jefferson_dem]

1. This is their latest talking point on Obama - he's a marxist.

:scared:

All the knuckle-draggers are marching in lock-step. I heard at least three talk radio haters use the same word yesterday.

Not sure what to make of LIEberman's drivel.

[H2O Man]

Exactly.

Pat Buchanan was saying it on MSNBC last night.

[melody]

We'll all hear that here today, too -- yesterday it was "nasty "and creepy", today it's Marxist n/t

[Timefortruth]

8. All the talking points come from the same place. nt

[Tesha]

13. You know, I was listening to my local NPR station this morning...

And they had their weekly, local "so how's that race going?"
segment, focusing on the question of "So how badly did Barack
fuck up?" (See the frame?)

And the Democratic spokeshead was making all the usual points
about "Well, it could be this, or it could be that, blah,
blah, blah, subtlety, nuance, historical context, blah,
blah, blah..." and the Republican spokeshead was simply
attacking and attacking, and making all the same points
that the Clinton supporters here prattle on about every day:
"Elitist, out-of-touch, unelectable, far-left, ..."

Funny, huh?

Republicans spokesheads, Lieberman, Clinton, Clinton supporters,
all talking as if they've read the same playbook...

There's a lesson in there somewehere, I think.

Tesha

[Adelante]

22. Hillary's probably whispering talking points into his ear

The Clinton campaign has been trying to work this lame game for months now.

Lieberman: Obama's to the left of me and mainstream America.

No shit, Joe :rofl:

[nxylas]

33. Does that mean they'll be cutting out pictures of Barack's face?

To stick over Hillary's on their "Re-defeat Communism" t-shirts from last year?

[melody]

2. He's doing his part for the DLC n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

3. Weasly coward.

[polpilot]

15. 'I'm Joe Lieberman and I approve the Bush agenda'

may as well say it

[ShortnFiery]

4. I'd bet money that MANY of the good people of Connecticut would like their vote back.

Ned Lamont would have been SO MUCH BETTER than self-righteous "Holy Joe." :shrug:

[EFerrari]

5. LOL!

:rofl:

[zanne]

6. Lieberman--McCain's VP pick?

What do you think? He's trying to attract Democrats. He obviously doesn't have the conservative base, so he has to make up for that somehow. With Lieberman being an Independent, I'd say it's his best choice.

[Texas Hill Country]

30. YUP. and conservatives love him for some odd reason.

[zanne]

42. I think conservatives love him because he turned on us. nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

7. Fucker.

What qualifies as Marxism in this country today is something to the right of Eisenhower.

[zulchzulu]

9. The day Lieberman takes a dirtnap...

...is a day I will celebrate from dusk to dawn.

WHAT AN ASSWIPE.

[progdog]

32. Thank you for saying that.

You were far more polite then I would have been.

[moondust]

10. Connecticut, it's time to recall your bozo.

Enough of this silly fool.

[Tesha]

14. Just remember, when the 2006 Senate race was being run, and the *DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE*...

was Ned Lamont, the Senator from New York and her
husband both sat on their asses and *DID NOT CAMPAIGN*
for the Democrat.

Tesha

[BeyondGeography]

11. "I must say that’s a good question."

Right, Joe.

[billyoc]

12. Ah, Leiberman, "the other fucking whore". nt

[PVnRT]

16. Well...so much for Hillary being desperate

If this is how bad the Republicans are getting, to start falling back on the OMG COMMIES shit, Hillary's attacks look reasonable and intelligent by comparison.

[Dyllyn]

17. See if anything sticks!

Is it possible to find a "Pseudo Christian Islamic Marxist Out Of Touch Elitist Snob.

Apparently so .

Folks when you're out of grenades you throw insults instead . Name calling is the last act of a defeated foe.

[Ysabel]

43. hello... :)

and welcome...

[Vinca]

18. What Democrat isn't to the left of Lieberbush? What an idiot. nt

[Lint Head]

19. Ethics is not even on this liars radar. he supports a fascist

regime that was installed by the United States Supreme Cowards. 4,000 plus dead soldiers is his legacy. :dem:

[susankh4]

20. They call Hillary a "European Styled Socialist"

so what do you expect?

They are gonna do what they can to take down any kind of universal health care initiative.

[EffieBlack]

21. A Marxist, Muslim, elitist black man, beholden to his fundamentalist Christian pastor

Wow!

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. ..."and I'm a weasely little prick that screwed my constituents"

Screw you, Joe.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

24. Why do you hate McCarthyism?

:*

[Tellurian]

25. How does this square up?

Lieberman is Obama's mentor.. hmm?

[Adelante]

26. VERY interesting - an article written by Obama's father

This is apparently one of the pointers to Marxism they are using against Obama. But Politico does a surprisingly good job of debunking here:

Long-lost article by Obama's dad surfaces

-snip

Greg Ransom, a blogger who unearthed the journal at UCLA's library, calls the article "the Rosebud" that provides the missing key to Obama's memoir. Ransom wrote about its contents recently in a posting with the provocative headline, "Obama Hid His Father's Socialist and Anti-Western Convictions From His Readers."

But Kenya expert Dr. Raymond Omwami, an economist and UCLA visiting professor from the University of Helsinki who has also worked at the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, said Obama Sr. could not be considered a socialist himself based solely on the material in his bylined piece.

Omwami points out Obama Sr.'s paper was primarily a harsh critique of the controversial 1965 government document known as the "Sessional Paper No. 10." Sessional Paper No. 10 rejected classic Karl Marx philosophies then embraced by the Soviet Union and some European countries, calling instead for a new type of socialism to be used specifically in Africa.

The government paper rejected materialism (i.e., "conspicuous consumerism"), outlined the nation's goals to eradicate poverty, illiteracy and disease, and also laid out important decrees regarding land use for economic development. Obama Sr.'s response covers these issues, frequently focusing on the distribution of real estate to farmers. Since most Kenyans could not afford farmland in line with market forces established earlier by white British farmers, Obama Sr. argued that strong development planning should better define common farming space to maximize productivity, and should defer to tribal traditions instead of hastening individual land ownership.

In other words, Obama Sr.'s paper was not a cry for acceptance of radical politics, but was instead a critique of a government policy by Kenya's Ministry of Economic Planning & Development, which applied African socialism principles to the country's ongoing political upheaval.

"The critics of this article are making a big mistake," says Omwami, who read the document and the associated internet debate at the request of Politico over the weekend. "They are assuming Obama Sr. is the one who came up with this concept of African socialism, but that's totally wrong. Based on that, they're imbuing in him the idea that he himself is a socialist, but he is not."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9610.html

[blogslut]

27. Just freaking go GOP, Joe

The only thing keeping you from it is you wouldn't get re-elected in your state as a Republican. Ya big, damned faker.

[Orangepeel]

28. Groucho or Harpo?

Come to think of it, Oprah's production company is called Harpo productions. Coincidence?

:rofl:

[Mooney]

29. Oh my god! He's to the left of Lieberman!

Is he to the left of Dick Cheney too?

[DefenseLawyer]

31. The local right wing radio hack

here in Indianapolis calls every Democrat he ever mentions on his show a "marxist". Unfortunately for him and Joe Lieberman, someone forgot to tell them that it isn't 1952.

[Elidor]

34. I won't hesitate to say that Joe Lieberman is a vile asshole

Who will say anything to score political points with republicans.

[Bolo Boffin]

35. And Obama even endorsed him in CT in 2006.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5513911

What a bastard this person is.

[Moochy]

36. Lieberscum meeds to retire to K Street

[AllentownJake]

37. Can we get a real democratic majority in the Senate

So we can show him the door?

[RichardRay]

38. Joe would 'hesitate to say' = Joe wouldn't know a Marxist

if a guy with a wispy goatee and a beret with a red star on it came up and bit him on the ass.

Barack Obama is so far from being a Marxist that this comment by Joe-booby is just plain loopy.

[Buzz Clik]

39. So Lieberman and Kristol are taking their cues from Jonah Goldberg, the dumbest human in journalism.

How pathetic is that?

[Orsino]

40. Lieberman cements his reputation as the GOP's lapdog. n/t

[shadowknows69]

41. As far as you know right Joe?

You traitorous fuck.

[bobthedrummer]

44. ^