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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:35 AM
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Clinton supporter Barney Frank says Hillary should drop out by June 3rd if she is trailing
Tuesday, Apr. 15, 2008
Frank: Trailing Democrat Should Drop Out


(WASHINGTON) — Rep. Barney Frank said the trailing Democratic presidential candidate should drop out of the race by no later than June 3 — the date of the two last Democratic primaries — even if it is the candidate he supports, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"Probably sooner," the Massachusetts congressman added in an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press. He suggested that the trailing candidate should drop out once it became clear that candidate had no remaining practical chance of winning the nomination.

South Dakota and Montana vote on that day. Sen. Barack Obama currently leads Clinton in both pledged delegates and in the popular vote. But neither can mathematically win a majority by that date and the final outcome will depend on superdelegates.

As a member of Congress, Frank is one of the nearly 800 elected officials and party leaders who are superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention.

Obama lately has been battling criticism over his remarks that some voters in small towns in Pennsylvania and in other parts of rural America have grown bitter because of hard economic times and hollow promises by politicians and "cling to guns and religion." Both Clinton and Sen. John McCain, the certain Republican nominee, have painted the Illinois senator as an elitist out of touch with small-town America.

Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said he thought that Obama had "a very legitimate point to make," but expressed it poorly.

"Bitter is not a good word to use," Frank said. He said Obama should have stuck with an economic argument rather than talking about guns and religion. Obama should have said "yes, people are angry," and that's why they should oppose trade deals that drive jobs abroad and other economic plans that disadvantage U.S. workers.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1730974,00.html

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:42 AM
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1. Who is Barney Frank to demand Hillary drop out?
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 10:45 AM by mac2
"Bitter is not a good word to use," Frank said. He said Obama should have stuck with an economic argument rather than talking about guns and religion. Obama should have said "yes, people are angry," and that's why they should oppose trade deals that drive jobs abroad and other economic plans that disadvantage U.S. workers.

I agree with this statement by Frank.

Obama did not suffer that job loss like many Americans because of him being given opportunity not available to most Americans.

Signed: Angry American who never got to use the college degree/job promise that was part of the "American dream".

"It's the economy stupid" applies here.

Let the voters decide Barney.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:51 AM
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5. What opportunity was Obama "given?"
He busted his ass for everything he got.

He isn't relying on his spouse's accomplishments either.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:01 AM
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8. Who said anything about Obama in this thread.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 11:09 AM by mac2
A lot of us "bused our ass for everything we got". I from a divorced family help raise my brothers, lived with my grandparents and help take care of them, worked full time and went to college at night. Was on my own, etc. No parents to help.

My circumstances are not unuasal for many Americans of various races, sex, etc. No one cared to give us scholorships, good jobs, etc.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:11 AM
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10. You did.
"Obama did not suffer that job loss like many Americans because of him being given opportunity not available to most Americans."

:shrug:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:17 AM
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13. Well, Sparky, it was you.
I'm not surprised you didn't get any "scholorship" since you can't fucking spell.

I got a scholarship in college and I had to bust my ass for that too.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:01 PM
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30. Or type?
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 12:02 PM by mac2
So I failed typing.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:50 AM
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23. Harvard.
Senator in Illinois from the voters who trusted him to represent us. Support by the Chicago Tribune for office, etc. Media support when Edwards and Kucinich were made fun of, etc.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:30 PM
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31. You're making up lies as you go along.
You think it's easy to get into Harvard?

How was getting into Harvard "given" to Obama?

Senator from Illinois? WTF is that supposed to mean?

How was his Senate seat "given" to Obama?

Media support? LMAO! Nobody has had more whore media support than the inevitable H. Clinton.

The corporate media crowned Hillary the nominee before a single vote was cast.

Newspaper endorsements? The New York Times endorsed Clinton. Was she "given" everything like Obama?

Obama has earned every vote he got and you sound like a stupid dumbass freeper, bleating like a sheep about minorities being "given" things. Go back to FR or whatever cesspool you crawled out of.




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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:40 AM
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21. A Democratic Congressman with an opinion.
And in America, he's free to state it.

Barney is most manifestly letting the voters decide, mac2. Many Obama supporters feel that the people have spoken loud enough. Hillary can't win, even if she wins Pennsylvania by 35 points. The math is the math.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:51 AM
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24. The voters decide.
That's how he was "elected".
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:52 AM
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25. That's what Barney Frank said.
Keep avoiding his words, though, if it makes you happy. That's in the Declaration, right?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:59 AM
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29. Everyone should let the voters decide not tell anyone to
get out of the race because "they might lose" before such and such a date.

If it were up to me, I'd like to tell Edwards and Kucinich to get into the race and Obama and Clinton leave. I want a real Democrat not a New Democrat who supports globalism. Obama with his religious agenda is just wrong for America (Bush does it illegally/unconstitutionally too).
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:44 PM
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32. You are avoiding his actual words to believe what you wish.
Frank said whoever is trailing should get out.

TRAILING WHAT?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:46 AM
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2. Barney Frank has been one of Hillary's most vocal supporters
His sister is fairly high up in Clinton's campaign staff. If he's saying she should drop out, that's an ominous signal for her campaign.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:52 AM
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6. Barney Frank
always throws the towel in too early*

see ENDA
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:47 AM
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3. Congressman Frank knows who's going to be our nominee.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:52 AM
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7. no, he just wants to avoid a convention battle.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:16 AM
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12. Likely both.
Obama will be our nominee and it will be clear after May 6th, if not before, that Senator Clinton contests the nomination at the peril of her future role in the party.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:52 AM
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26. What is the convention about if not to decide on our candidates
for office and their agenda? It's a pep rally?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:48 AM
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4. Barney Frank is actually one of my most loved democrats
id love Obama/Frank lol
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:10 AM
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9. Is he asking for impeachment?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:12 AM
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11. Get Back to Me on June 2nd
thanks
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:19 AM
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14. big time indicator expect more like it
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:20 AM
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15. I think that's fair
We don't need a brokered convention
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:28 AM
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16. Rendell, now Frank.
Very telling indeed.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:35 AM
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19. The adults are starting to talk.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:19 PM
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33. I had the same reaction! Multiple choice...
These guys had a very different line last month.
So the question is WHY the change ...
A) They know Obama is the only one who can get the job done when it comes to legalizing pot.
B) They fell in love with Obama after his bitterness/wedge issue comment.
C) They are tired of HRC harassing them to impugn Obama's campaign.
D) They are math nerds and already solved the equation. Obama = President.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:30 AM
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17. I wonder how Barney feels about her "San Francisco" dissing comments
I think he's realized he made a mistake backing The Monster.

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:53 AM
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27. Monster?
Is this not hate?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:30 AM
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18. since no one has said it yet.... "Barney Frank is DEAD to me..."
tee hee
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:54 AM
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28. Dammit! that's MY line!
:rofl:

- as
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:35 AM
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20. Red Clue Phone for Senator Clinton.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:45 AM
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22. "Hillary should drop out by June 3rd"
Yeah, but she won't though.

I could see the divisive clown running all the way to the convention.

Hell, I could see her running independently to try to split the Dem vote and keep Obama out of the WH so she could have a viable 2012 run.

I wouldn't put *anything* past her at this point...
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