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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:29 PM
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Obama's Latest Blunders Proves He is Change we CAN'T Believe In
Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was supposed to be a new kind of politician, one that would transcend all of the divisions within this country and bring us together. He is remembered for his speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention that called for bipartisanship and bridging the supposed gap between “red states” and “blue states.” He often talks about the “audacity of hope,” and his message seems to resonate with many Americans, even those that disagree with him politically.A few days ago, however, Obama abandoned this message in a private speech to donors made up of liberal urban elites in San Francisco. He said in reference to residents of small towns in the Midwest that have suffered job losses: “… they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Obama shows condescension to millions of middle-class Americans, dismissing their values and opinions as the result of their being “bitter” and making them appear like stereotypical rednecks. His remarks border on intolerance, a label he actually tries to apply to the people in his speech. The hypocrisy here is a direct contradiction of the message he has been preaching throughout his campaign.

His contention that many people seek refuge in guns and religion because they are bitter about job losses does not hold up to scrutiny. Guns have been a part of the culture in places like rustbelt Pennsylvania for decades, even during its most prosperous times. Likewise, people have been going to church long before the factories started closing. Did it ever occur to Obama that people could be religious because they believe in God or accept a church’s teachings? Obama displays a remarkable inability to understand the values and way of life of a large portion of America.Obama’s remark that some of these people have become anti-immigrant because of job losses is also baseless. If he is referring to the city of Hazleton, Pa., which placed strict restrictions on employers hiring illegal immigrants, then he misuses the term “anti-immigrant.” Are there Americans who can be labeled “anti-immigrant?” I am sure there are, but most Americans want to make sure the immigrants are here legally, and this does not mean that they are “anti-immigrant.” Obama is trying to characterize support for tough law enforcement as nativism.

One of the most ironic portions of the speech is Obama’s attempt to criticize “anti-trade” sentiment. The race between him and Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) has essentially been a NAFTA bash-fest to appeal directly to this anti-trade sentiment. Forget the fact that NAFTA has significantly boosted Mexico’s economy and offered American consumers cheaper products, Obama is trying to have both sides of the issue here. He criticizes free trade on the campaign trail, but he praises it in private when the audience is a bunch of rich donors.I think it is time that someone said the emperor has no clothes. Obama makes sweeping speeches about hope and change. His supporters faint in his presence and narcissistically declare, “We are the change we seek.” There is a Messiah complex about this guy. I have yet to see a compelling reason why Obama is special. He is a left-wing Ivy Leaguer with four years of experience in the Senate who happens to be a remarkably gifted orator. He makes an effort to appear bipartisan, when in fact he has voted the party line 97 percent of the time in the Senate, and National Journal ranked him the country’s most liberal senator. If you’re a liberal Democrat, then I am sure he is perfect for you, but please stop trying to convince us that he is a moderate.

The truth is that I found Obama appealing for a while, but some of the things that have come out over the past few months have been really troubling. Michelle Obama said that her husband’s success made her really proud of America for the first time. Obama has attended a church for 20 years led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who after 9/11 blamed the United States for the attack and preached that African-Americans should say “God damn America” instead of “God bless America.” Anyone who goes to a church like that for 20 years and then brings the reverend on the campaign trail exhibits disturbingly questionable judgment. The recent comments solidified my belief that while Obama has a great message, there is really nothing substantive about it. If Obama wants to be a new kind of politician, he cannot say one thing on the campaign trail and contradict this in front of a different audience. If he wants his message of tolerance to resonate, he should be more tolerant himself of the different lifestyles across this country. If he wants to be a uniter, he cannot use such divisive rhetoric. He is trying to backtrack about what he has said, but I think I am ready to finally hear some straight talk.


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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:30 PM
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1. welcome to du....lol..
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:32 PM
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5. I suggest it's more like welcome back to DU?
:evilgrin:

Yes, Hill and Bill have, after all, run a FLAWLESS campaign during this primary season. :eyes:
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:49 PM
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53. Make me barf. nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:41 PM
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79. Can we take much more of this loving attention?
We're like the hottest game in town :D
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:31 PM
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2. Welcome to DU? Too bad you couldn't have gotten some of your buddies to post this for you.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:00 PM
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69. It's a conspiracy
.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:32 PM
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3. nice capsulization of about 1/2 of the facts....
bittlary and her crew will welcome your fresh blood...

you'll fit right in..
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:37 PM
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16. LOVE your siggie
Im a fan, too!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:32 PM
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4. load of steaming crap
:nuke:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:32 PM
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6. How can anyone attending a University be so ignorant?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:42 PM
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31. I'm amazed that he is a senior.... my god, academic accreditation has fallen
He is a McCain supporter if you read the whole thing.
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:32 PM
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7. He said the exact same thing on Charlie Rose in 2004.
It went right over your head buddy.
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:33 PM
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10. What he said was hurtful back then too.
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:35 PM
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15. Then you should vote for the other side. And take your head out of the clouds.
Bill Clinton said the same thing except the bitter word. Jeez.
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:37 PM
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17. Im a democrat. Anything is better than McLAME
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:41 PM
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26. Sure you're a Democrat...
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 06:42 PM by Hepburn
...just like Hillary, Lieberman and McCain are....:eyes:
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:42 PM
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29. I consider myself a Wesley Clark Democrat.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:42 PM
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30. What an insult to Wesley.
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:43 PM
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36. You insult Wesley with all your harsh words about Hillary not being a democrat
Wesley would condemn your words.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:47 PM
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48. LOL...
...and what the fuck gives YOU the right to speak for Gen. Clark?

:eyes: A bit arrogant of you...to say the least. Welcome back, jlake, what took you so long to reveal yourself?

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:04 PM
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74. You - Scottie lover - are one of the problems.
(And Scottie dogs and Cairn terriers and the like are wonderful animals. When they are working).
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:52 PM
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60. So why are you using Republican talking points?
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:33 PM
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8. 38 posts and now this?
LOL

You seem awfully familar....
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:34 PM
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11. Sorry, I dont know who you are.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:43 PM
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35. Seems a bit retreaded to me....
...but what do I know...I have only been here four years.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:33 PM
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9. Hillary Clinton will never be president of the United States.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:38 PM
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19. What an incredibly horrific picture!
Do you represent your namesake?? :scared:
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:43 PM
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34. I represent myself.
And the illuminati.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:47 PM
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47. You apparently have a "thing" about scaring small girls.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:48 PM
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50. Yes, because everything I have ever posted has a scared small girl in it.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:52 PM
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61. One was enough.
That picture had nothing to do with anything but sadism.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:53 PM
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63. I thought it had to do with a healthy and reasonable fear of clowns.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:55 PM
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64. Whatever, freak.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:00 PM
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70. God be with you.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:34 PM
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12. Welcome Back to DU!
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 06:34 PM by Moochy
38 posts all today. Born on april 15th.
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:35 PM
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14. What can I say? I'm a tax day baby.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:40 PM
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24. You can PM me your previous screen name!
I wont post it to anyone but the mods! I promise!
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:40 PM
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25. Sorry, cant PM yet.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:44 PM
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38. Then go ahead and post it on this thread...
...and promise...none of us will tell the mods who you were. :evilgrin:
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:48 PM
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49. Sorry, I'm one and only one person, Wes87.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:50 PM
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55. Sorry about your IQ of 87....
...better luck in your next reincarnation! :hi:
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:51 PM
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58. Thanks for the kind words
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:00 PM
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71. Thanks for the laughs I am at getting from you!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:45 PM
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41. Post it here using [font color=white][/font]
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 06:46 PM by Moochy
Just post it in spoiler text .

here is my guess:
>

Mr Benchley's Newly-Sentient Anal Polyp

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:34 PM
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13. Nice subject-verb agreement
Congratulations.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:37 PM
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18. He's hit most of all the right wing talking points. I'd give him an B+ for that
and an F for originality
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:50 PM
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57. Those aren't the RW's talking points, they're Hillary's...
oh, never mind.... same thing.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:38 PM
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20. jlake, is that you? n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:45 PM
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44. GMTA...
...:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:39 PM
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21. Your post PROVES you are taken in by
hilary's LIES or you don't give a shit. Which one are you..:silly: or ?
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:39 PM
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22. Oh pfui
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:39 PM
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23. Yeah, welcome to the DU....who were you before you got a granite pizza?
:eyes:
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:41 PM
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27. There has never been anything about Obama to believe in
He's the phoniest politician I've ever seen on the Democratic side of the aisle. Just complete self-fabrication.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:42 PM
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28. CyberPieHole!
:hi:


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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:03 PM
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73. Über CyberPieHole!
Nice new graphics my friend!



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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:45 PM
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81. It says everything about the Clinton campaign nt
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:43 PM
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32. I hope Stephen Kenny of The Hoya...
...doesn't mind you cutting and pasting his entire column....unless...wait...naw...it couldn't be. Nobody with any journalistic integrity would do that!
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:43 PM
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33. He will be one of the worst presidents we have ever had. And he's not even a nice guy (eom)
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:44 PM
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37. So you admit he will be president? Wow, welcome aboard!
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:45 PM
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45. I'll admit it when he clinches the nomination and wins the GE (eom)
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:46 PM
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46. I wonder where these people come from.
He's not a nice guy? How the hell do they know that? Certainly not from anything I've seen.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:38 PM
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78. So you think he would be worse than Mad king Boy George
Hillarious

I guess you haven't been paying attention the past 7.5 years.

Let me give you an update:

We were lied into a War of choose in Iraq, that your candidate voted for BTW.

There are now over 4000 US soldiers dead, and over 1 million Iraqis.

We have tortured people.

We are seeing gas prices soaring.

We have seen our Constitution shredded.

We have had our phone and email records looked into.

Our economy's in the tank.

Our treasury dept. has been looted.

Our health care still sucks.

There was a major hurricane that demolished a cities in LA, and is still in shambles.



There is a lot more but this should get you up to speed.





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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:44 PM
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39. ugh. that was so boring. got anything resembling the truth, or better yet,
something sans cliche'.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:44 PM
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40. Welcome back. n/t
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:45 PM
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42. Who's we, Kemosabe?
The DLC must really think we're stupid, having you come over here and post this steaming pile, as if we're all going to swoon and be won over. If you're waiting for some straight talk, Hillary's going to keep you waiting.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:45 PM
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43. I knew you could do it
:hug:
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:48 PM
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52. Thanks, you motivated me
:toast:
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:48 PM
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51. Blah blah blah blah liberal pinko commy DUmmy.
Bad enough we get this rhetoric from republicans now we get it from democrats. You play with fire you will eventually get burned.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:49 PM
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54. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.
WOW -

You really give me the cramps

:hurts:
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:50 PM
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56. So go get some help for that.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:51 PM
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59. more bullshit from the newbies for hillary
How fucking cute!!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:52 PM
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62. Great analysis Wes87. All Wes admirers are welcome.
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:58 PM
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66. Thanks!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:59 PM
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68. I think a 10 post limit on week one would be a great idea
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 07:01 PM by Moochy
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:57 PM
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65. Either you want a president who will "bring this country together" which
really just means, play to the middle and continue the status quo, or you want a president who will bring on change and challenge every policy which has gotten us where we are today, in which case, expect a blast of cold air to blow your skirt up, every now and then.

Hillary won't change a damn thing. It will be business as usual. Lawyers will continue to be the main lobbyists between government and private business; those who will play the games will do well, while honest people will flounder and continue to disconnect from the system.

Obama's "gaffes" aren't "gaffes." No one can bring us together without some serious introspection, first. It will be a national-size intervention. And people who aren't use to seeing themselves through other people's eyes, will have their eyes opened, and be better for the experience.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:59 PM
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67. Good god, how many of these low-post trolls are we going to get before Hillary concedes?
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Wes87 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:03 PM
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72. I resent you calling me a troll.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:06 PM
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75. ...If he wants
<<If he wants to be a uniter, he cannot use such divisive rhetoric. He is trying to backtrack about what he has said, but I think I am ready to finally hear some straight talk.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:10 PM
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76. Welcome to DU. As happy as seeing the tax man
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:13 PM
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77. I'm sure you're just enthusiastic about your candidate. She has run a competitive race but
she won't be the nominee. So if you're a Democrat you need to spend some time realizing that not only is he the best you've got as a Democrat he is the best this nation has to offer in the GE.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:44 PM
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80. *plonk*
Same old shit, still stinks.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:54 PM
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82. Latest polls show him -6 in Penn and +5 in Indiana and +20 in No. Carolina.
Obama is kicking ass and taking names.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:55 PM
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83. Blunder? Yeah right.
It's Hillary and camp that are deceiving people into believing a lie from the truth in which Obama told everyone about.

And if it isn't a lie, well then Hillary and gang are too stupid and that's why Obama said he would have chosen different words so you guys would understand but Hillary and crew are too stupid to even see that Obama is calling her stupid!

Blunder? What Obama said stands. No mistake, and no apology. Period.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:16 PM
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84. Wanna hear some straight talk? Like Hillary gave us about Bosnia airport?
"I am ready to finally hear some straight talk".

There is a reason the Hillary Herd no longer tries to promote Hillary, only tries to bash Obama: there is nothing to promote about Hillary! You take out her bashing of Obama during the past months, what is left?

The ironic thing is that Clinton is the most condescending of candidates we have had in decades.
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:33 PM
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85. Just cuz you say it, doesn't make it so. LOL
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:38 PM
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86. Here is some damn good change I believe in!!!
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