Obama supporters - will you vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic nominee?

[Skip Intro]

Poll question: Obama supporters - will you vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic nominee?

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Of course!

:)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Yes, because of the Supreme Court.

But not with much enthusiasm.

[merwin]

3. The alternative is McCain.

So yes, I would.

[Ian David]

4. I will proudly vote for Hillary without a hint of reservation if she is the nominee.

Anyone who feels otherwise can go Cheney themselves.

[akbacchus_BC]

30. You mirrored my feelings, thank you ....

Senator Clinton would be a great President too, the alternative is another four years of rethug rule.

[democrattotheend]

36. 24 hours ago I felt the same way

Before I saw the despicable ad she is running in PA. I will still vote for her and probably even volunteer if she gets the nomination, but I can't say I'll do so proudly.

[akbacchus_BC]

44. Please do support her if by chance she is the nominee, Senator Clinton will

be better than any rethug in the White House. Plus a Dem as President will be good for the world. Some supporters on both sides who are saying they will not vote for the nominee if the person is not their nominee of choice is really throwing a temper tantrum.

[musicblind]

65. go "cheney" themselves. I love it! I might start using that lol. n/t

[mcctatas]

5. Any Obama supporter who said no is either in the midst of a

temper tantrum and will eventually do the right thing, OR, batshit insane and should have their voting privileges revoked...I can't stand her, but if it is a choice between Hillary and McCain, I'll campaign like a motherfucker to make sure she wins.

[Ian David]

13. BEWARE THE WRATH OF KYLE! N/T

[TLM]

31. I'm really on the fence, and it goes beond Hillary herself...

If she wins legit, even if by using dirty smears and BS... if she gets more votes and more delegates, I'll vote for her.

But if Obama gets more votes, more states, more delegates, and they give it to Hillary in some back room deal with super delegates, no. I not only won't vote for her, but I'll leave the party and go independent.

The democratic party leadership will have made it clear my support is not wanted.

[akbacchus_BC]

40. Some of Senator Obama's supporters are having a temper tantrum, lol

but I am pretty sure they will vote for Senator Clinton if she is the nominee. This long drawn out primary season is not good. Who would have thought these two Senators would be running for the nominee. I had all my dollars on Kuchinich and Bidden. Politics is such an unsure game.

[DesertFlower]

43. agreed. nt

[wileedog]

69. No

The only way Hillary gains the nomination at this point is for Super Delegates and party insiders - the Big Money Elite - to overturn the pledged delegate vote and elect who they damn well please.

I sure as shit will not condone or support that. It will send the message that they will have carte blanche to throw up whatever corporate shill they want going forward - whoever has the lobby money has the vote.

If that means I have to scrape through 4 years of McCain so be it. I survived 8 of Bush. I won't vote for McAssclown, but I am not going to tell the DLC "Sure, elect whomever you want, why should we care?" either. If we lose an election we have no right losing this year than at least that detestable cabal gets deservedly pushed out of the party.

Its not even about Hillary (although she has certainly made it that much worse), its about a system being broken and abused.

[Zhade]

70. Careful, principles are only respected so far here.

I, of course, agree completely with you - but it's not like this thread is even relevant at this point, since she's essentially finished.

[NDambi]

82. completely, totally and utterly agree with you..even wholeheartedly

[Hippo_Tron]

114. Nader voters said the same thing in 2000

And while you've managed the last 8 years of Bush just fine, there are millions of people in America and millions more in Iraq who would be exponentially better off if Gore had been inaugurated in 2001 instead of Bush.

So go ahead and make all of the futile attempts to destroy the system that you want. Just realize that other people suffer as a result of your choices.

[americanstranger]

6. I will vote for the Democrat.

To which degree of enthusiasm, I cannot guarantee.

But i will vote for the Democratic nominee.

- as

[uponit7771]

7. K & R

[Purveyor]

8. Six weeks ago I would have said 'yes' but now I strongly doubt it. I will

however work doubly hard to seat a veto proof Democratic Congress...

[DJ13]

15. work doubly hard to seat a veto proof Democratic Congress

Thats what I would do too, especially since she has zero coattails and our party could actually lose a few seats if she became our nominee due to an increased interest by the GOP against her.

Im not sure I could vote for her, she's proven herself to not be a team player, so I dont see her needing me on her team if she pulled off some sort of SD coup to get the nomination.

[CreekDog]

9. Yes, I'm not stupid

ANY Democrat is better than McCain, far, far better.

I have called her names here in recent week, but I would still vote for her if she were the nominee.

[Jane Austin]

18. Awwww . . . is that a Yeller Dog Democrat?

:)

[CreekDog]

63. Woof!

[Jane Austin]

108. Awwwww . . . .

Name?

[mcctatas]

10. I would like to hear justifications from some of these no fucking

way folks...
*I must be spending to much time in GDP because I had an awful thought that it's really Hillary supporters trying to make us look as nuts as the 25% of them that won't vote for Obama, but I know that's not the case.....

[Hailtothechimp]

20. OK-I'll bite.

The ONLY way Clinton wins this is through persuading the superdelagates to overrule the will of the voters. If she thinks that we can be overruled, then fuck her. The voters are sovereign in this process, and if she games the system to get the nomination I'll just stay home. I hate McCain, and I would never vote for him, but that doesn't mean I owe her anything.

Simple as that.

[mcctatas]

23. You only have to ask yourself one question

would I rather have Hillary of McCain, forget all the other bullshit, I can't stand hillary, but I for one don't think I can handle another 4 more years of bush policies. End of story...

[Hailtothechimp]

32. I live in Illinois, which will go for the Dems regardless.

My vote means nothing, and I'm mature enough to recognize that.

[Kool Kitty]

59. The country couldn't stand a third Bush term.

If Hillary gets the nom, she gets my vote. No question.

[Zhade]

66. I don't endorse or reward proven fucking liars.

Plus, my vote is MINE, not anyone else's.

There you go. Don't like it? Don't care.

[mcctatas]

107. Well ok then...

I just don't think anything is worth risking another 8 years of bush era policies, but if your principles are that strong, ok then...

[99th_Monkey]

11. I would write-in Barak Obama. The guy who really won the Dem nomination.

And if enough people do the same, Obama may become the first Prez ever elected by write-ins.

[muryan]

12. Anyone who says no

Needs to take a look at the pictures in this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5513310

The purpose of the thread is a bit ironic in its relevance to this one. The fact is I'm 99% sure that our men and women will be home once a democrat is in office, because they know if they dont come through, their chances of getting a second term are zilch. McCain offers no such reprieve for the men and women in uniform, nor their families from this terrible burden that they've been made to bear by themselves.

[pettypace]

14. Why don't you answer this

How exactly will Hillary become the nominee as the race stands?

That question alone defines this board's antipathy towards her bitter, disastrously-run campaign.

[kenny blankenship]

16. I will vote a straight Democratic ticket

so voting for Hillary would be something I could rationalize and live with - it was more or less accidental, I'll tell myself.

Don't think it will ever come to that, though.

[zulchzulu]

17. I rarely vote for closet Repuglicans

Frankly, if she is the nominee, she cheated to get there. In that case, I will do all in my power to make sure she loses badly. I've had it with the Clintons.

Don't worry though, she's not going to be the nominee, so this poll is bullshit anyway.

[jackson_dem]

27. Your endorsement of McSame over Clinton is noted

[MethuenProgressive]

89. How often have you voted for closet "Repuglicans"?

Not counting your vote for BO, that is.

[Hippo_Tron]

116. No she won't have cheated, super delegates are free to vote for whomever they want

Those are the rules and while they may be undemocratic, if you win according to the rules, it's not cheating. The electoral college is also undemocratic yet we accept that the person who gets 270 EV's is the legitimately elected president even if you lose the popular vote. Cheating is when you have your brother rig the votes so that you win a crucial swing state. Cheating isn't when you convince the super delegates to vote for you even when you're behind in pledged delegates.

[DemVet]

118. Cheated to get there? How so?

[Diana Prince]

19. Yes, because...

there are too many reasons to allow a Rethug to stay in this position. We have IWR, SCOTUS, Iran, Roe v. Wade, Federal Judges, & economy to name a few.

[jwirr]

21. If I had choices I would not BUT my child's life depends on the

continuation of programs that *ss and co. want to destroy. I have no choice. At the age of 67 it will not be the first time I have voted for a Democrat that I had problems with for the sake of my Terri and others like her.

[abq e streeter]

22. More than just hold my nose , but yes

I'll be disgusted almost beyond my ability to look at myself in the mirror, but anything's better than a McCain presidency. Even Hillary, who I never would have believed I could come to loathe as much as I do .......but I do.

[JimGinPA]

24. I Voted Other...

Not sure what I'll do.

[jackson_dem]

25. So 50% of Obama supporters here are not Democrats. Is anyone surprised?

[peoli]

28. 50% of Hillary Clinton is not Democrat either, maybe more.

[jackson_dem]

29. Are you calling Obama a DINO for having the same politics as Clinton?

[mcctatas]

49. Or a handful of hillary supporters would like us to think they are...

which way did you vote?

[jackson_dem]

51. I didn't vote

There aren't enough Clinton supporters here to even rig that poll to that extent so your argument doesn't fly.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. So you'll say right now, right here, that you WILL vote for Obama if (when) he's the nominee?

That's good to know.

[jackson_dem]

56. Of course. I have said that several times. I am a straight ticket Dem voter

And I won't just vote for him. I will do grassroots things to help him if he is the nominee too, although my focus until September would probably be on the gubernatorial primary (which is the real election in Delaware since the rethugs have no serious candidate for the general) and then I will shift gears. That will work since folks don't truly pay attention to the prez campaign until after Labor Day anyway. I am jackson_dem, not jackson_edwardian or jackson_anti-obama. :)

[Warren DeMontague]

73. Cool cool.

I've said several times I will support Hillary if she is the nominee. We can't afford 4 more years of GOP rule.

[jackson_dem]

92. I agree and I believe 99% of DU will also agree by November

The "I won't vote for X" will go away as the primary recedes in memory and people start comparing our nominee to McSame.

[SKKY]

91. We're obviously differ on who should be the Democratic nominee...

...but we agree on the most important issue- that a Democrat should be the next president. I've got a vote and $250.00 dollars for the Democratic candidate- be it HRC or BO.

[jackson_dem]

93. Yup. As impeachdubya said we can't afford 4 more years of the rethugs

[bowens43]

80. So Obama can count on your vote in Novemebr?

[jackson_dem]

94. Yes

:thumbsup:

[Skittles]

26. I will vote Democratic, period, BECAUSE I AM NOT A FUCKING IDIOT nt

[baldguy]

33. The worst Democrat is light-years better than the best Republican.

Hillary is not the worst - McCain is nowhere near the best.

[Divine Discontent]

34. yes, because the alternative is the warmonger & the supreme court selections

but fortunately, it's not going to matter, b/c it's impossible unless SD's refuse to back Obama - I don't see that, no matter how poorly a light that Clinton chooses to caste him in.

[BlooInBloo]

35. Anyone not voting for the Democratic nominee is a fucking jackass.

[bridgit]

57. agreed!

:patriot:

[Labors of Hercules]

37. Were it not for the SCOTUS,

My response would be unequivocally NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL.

[IndianaGreen]

38. Making the case for not voting for Hillary if she is the Democratic nominee

I wasn't happy when Kerry won the nomination in 2004. I had fun taking pot shots at every of his stumbles, including the idiotic claim that he "voted for it, before he voted against it." I laughed at the video of Kerry wind surfing back and forth as a voice over spoke gravely about Kerry's flip flopping. Despite all that, I was appalled at Kerry's slow response to the swiftboat attacks, particularly after it became clear that they were nothing but a smear. When election day came, I voted for Kerry and I didn't even held my nose! In my book, Bush was the greatest threat to peace and freedom the world has seen since the rise of the Third Reich.

Kerry won the nomination fair and square. Kerry played by the rules. Kerry ran an honorable campaign. Furthermore, I believe that Kerry won Ohio, and the 2004 election!

Unlike Kerry, Hillary cannot win the nomination fair and square. Hillary played by her own rules, not the rules the DNC and all the candidates (including herself) had agreed to abide by. Hillary has run a shameful and dishonorable campaign, one that shares more in common with the 2000 Bush primary campaign against McCain than with that of any Democratic candidate that I have witnessed in my life.

The only way Hillary can win the nomination is by stealing it, just as Bush stole the 2000 election from Al Gore. For Hillary to win, she will have to convince a significant majority of superdelegates to vote against the candidate that won the most pledged delegates, the most states, and has the lead in the overall popular vote (including the popular vote that picked the delegates in the caucus states). Obama will have earned the nomination by all measures (pledged delegates, most states, popular vote), to deny him the nomination and selecting Hillary will irreparably split the party, alienate millions of new voters, and guarantee another 4 years of the same Bush/Cheney policies that have nearly destroyed our nation.

A Clintonian theft of the nomination will make the Denver convention make Chicago 1968 look like a Rotary Club meeting. I firmly believe that the grown ups in the Democratic Party will not allow a kamikaze candidate to tear the party asunder, and that includes many of the superdelegates that are currently supporting Clinton. Rep. Barney Frank, a Hillary supporter, said today that the candidate trailing at the end of the primaries in June should step down, even if that candidate is Hillary (source: Keith Olbermann Show).

Obama is our Democratic nominee for all practical purposes. The only reason Hillary is still making a pest out of herself is because she is incapable of setting aside her political ambitions for the sake of the party and the country.

[mrJJ]

39. Billary Self-SwitBoated Once Again!!!

ROFLMAO The self Swift-Boating Billary 08 Campaign rides agaian!!!

Bill Just lost Hillary the youth vote.. What an idiot! It will be on youtube soon.

Story & details up on www.huffingtonpost.com

[GarbagemanLB]

41. It is not just Hillary. It is any person who has voted for the IWR and has not admitted wrongdoing

and apologized.

Sorry.

Obviously I'd shut up around here if Hillary wins, but you can be sure as hell I won't be voting for her. I believe in holding people accountable, and the tens of thousands of dead Iraqis and U.S. servicemen are owed at least that.

[DesertFlower]

42. i'll hold my nose.

hillary will be better than McCain.

[grannylib]

45. Of course.

[CTLawGuy]

46. of course

I voted for Kerry even though I was a Dean supporter, even though I and others like me were called naive cultists by people who supported Kerry.

No way do we let Republicans back into office.

[IntravenousDemilo]

47. You know, this Canadian kind of prefers Obama,

...but thinks you had better damn well vote for Clinton if she's the nominee.

Anybody. But. The. Republican.

Why? Because 95 per cent of us despise the party of George Bush, actually do care about your country, and will be right royally pissed off if the American people fuck up FOR THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW!

The election will take place shortly before winter hits, and we have the oil and electricity you need, so you might want to keep that in mind...

[Webster Green]

48. I'll be holding my nose...probably puking as well..

..But voting for the fucking "democratic" nominee.:puke:

[HooptieWagon]

50. I'll vote for the candidate with the most pledged delegates. n/t

[TragedyandHope]

52. Yes we will

Come November, we must all come together. Ask yourself, "WHAT WOULD OBAMA DO?"



(Besides, it ain't gonna happen anyway.)

[Warren DeMontague]

54. Yes, because our nation's future is more important than saying fuck off to her bloated ego.

And we can't afford 4 more years of a Republican in the White House;

another reason why all DEMOCRATS should have found Hillary's repeated endorsements of McCain all the more noxious.

[dana_b]

62. yeah, you're right and I like how you stated it.

It's also not about my ego and loathing of her politics, it's about a LOT bigger things that have already been said.

[Zhade]

68. She's a liar. I'm not convinced she would be much of a change.

Thankfully, we're not going to have to find out.

[Catherina]

55. No fucking way

I don't owe and allegiance to her or her supporters who are trying to cement the DLC's grip on the Democratic Party.

Obama has inspired many people who were disaffected with the Democratic Party to come back and help rebuild it along more progressive lines; I'm one of them. Hillary Clinton and the DLC aren't part of the deal. On the issues I care about, there's no difference between Hillary and McCain so no fucking way will my vote be held hostage by a DLC wing that stands against everything I believe. There isn't enough of a difference between the two parties as it is but Obama has the advantage of having spoken out against the war when his career depended on it and being supported by a people's movement for whom the war is an unforgivable abomination.

If Hillary were winning fair and square, I'd be tempted to think about it but the only way she can win now is by overturning the people's vote as if our vote doesn't matter. Since that would be the case, I won't even consider rewarding her with my vote. As a citizen, that's my bargaining power and it ain't coming cheap. No rubber stamps for that coronation.

[stevedeshazer]

58. Yes. Skip Intro, will you vote for Barack if he is the Democratic nominee?

That's the question.

:)

[Gore1FL]

60. I'd hold my nose

but 2016 is a long way off.

[cemaphonic]

61. She's in serious danger of losing WA,

which even Dukakis managed to carry. Yeah, I'll vote for her, but I won't be happy about it. Not that I think she has a chance in hell of grabbing the nomination.

[Zhade]

64. Pointless question since she's not getting the nom, but no. I don't endrose proven liars.

NT!

[StevieM]

67. Interesting that the same self-righteous people who are voting no are likely the ones who slam

Clinton supporters when they say that they aren't certain they will vote for Obama.

So the rules only apply to Hillary--and her supporters.

Steve

[quakerboy]

71. I don't know

If that somehow happens, she will have to convince me on SCOTUS, WWIII, and civil liberties, along with a host of other things. VP choice could play large, as would the manner of the win. I would not rule it out, but it would be a struggle.

[TML]

72. No

My "single issue" is racism, and neither Hillary or McCain will get my vote thanks to the actions of the candidates and/or their supporters. You'll have to win me over, but Hillary's not going to win so this won't be an issue.

GO OBAMA!!!

[MethuenProgressive]

87. Another victim of BO's Swiftboating the Clintons on race is heard from...

BO's Rovian tactics have been successful.

[TML]

109. It wasn't swift boating

It's pieces of trash like Larry Johnson and Taylor Marsh that have poisoned the political blogosphere.

[SoCalDem]

74. I wouldn't have to, since I live in CA, but I would still vote against the crap

Ahhhnold will surely throw on our ballot..

If she steals it, she can do without the 5 votes from my family

[SKKY]

75. So many of you would vote for McCain???

Instead of a "Hold you nose.." option, you should have put, "I'll happily cut off my nose to spite my face" button. It's funny how quickly we lose sight of the real goal.

[MethuenProgressive]

88. Most HillHaters will vote for McCain.

They're not really Democrats anyway.

[last_texas_dem]

76. Yes

(Although my vote won't mean anything in my deep red state regardless... gotta love that Electoral College!)

Any "Democrat" planning to vote for McCain is an idiot.

[datopbanana]

77. def had to go with blue

[TragedyandHope]

78. To all the "NO" voters:

PLEASE think long and hard about your decision between now and November. As Obama supporters, you KNOW that Barack would not want you desert the party (and the country) and give McCain a better chance at the White House.


I am extremely unhappy at the way Hillary has conducted this campaign. Sometimes it's a real test to keep my blood from boiling over.

When I take a breath and step back, I know that Hillary cannot possibly do a worse job than McCain would do in Iraq. JUST THINK, if your vote for Hillary could save ONE American soldier or ONE Iraqi civilian from losing their life in McCain's 10,000 year war, wouldn't you choose life? By November, we MUST move past the pain and make the right choice.

That's only one example. Supreme Court Justice appointments are another. It's generally accepted and I believe that both candidates acknowledge that their positions are 90%-95% similar on a wide range of issues.


I've really struggled with the question myself. I don't want to send a message that we are rewarding the kind of politics used by Hillary's campaign, but if Hillary wins the nomination we can bring energized Obama supporters to the table as a positive influence. We can still play a positive role in community support and have our voices heard during Hillary's term. There are too many of us for Clinton to ignore. We have an opportunity to play a great role in local and Congressional races and push for progressive change.

As Barack says, "We are the ones we've been waiting for." Just because he's not there, doesn't mean the MILLIONS and MILLIONS of us will suddenly stop doing the right thing. If you vote NO in this poll and really follow through, you are missing Barack's message.


That said, I am certain Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States.

[bowens43]

79. She will have to convince me that she is a better choice than McCain

so far I don't see that.

[JoFerret]

81. Numbers on the poll suggest

...many spoilt ignorant brats about (of all ages.) But acting out on an anonymous board is one thing. Choosing to remain in GOP darkness is another.

[ihelpu2see]

83. Nadar, Nadar Nadar! If Obama is cheated out of the nominee...

[Independent-Voter]

84. McCain = Hillary. Not voting for either

I'm not voting for McCain or Hillary, because there's not a dime's difference between them.

[Orsino]

85. I'm going to be holding my nose, at least a little bit, no matter who's nominated.

I got to the station late, as the Kucinich and Edwards trains were delayed.

[MethuenProgressive]

86. Most of DU's "Obama Supporters" don't "support" him. They just hate the Clintons.

Link proving it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads

[JohnnyLib2]

90. Troubling results. 2009 will come, despite current noise.

Worth a second thought, IMO.

[bigwillq]

95. Those are some sad results

from members of a Democratic website.

[dysfunctional press]

96. other? what is there "other" than yes or no?

:shrug:

[featherman]

97. I hope it doesn't come to that... too divisive a figure to run an effective

administration IMO. But the correct answer is a simple "yes"

[The River]

98. She Won't Be The Nominee

so this poll is useless.

[RiverStone]

99. second that!

River to River :hi:

[NJSecularist]

100. I'll hold my nose and vote for her.

As of right now, I don't have a positive opinion of Hillary Rodham Clinton. However, that could change if she gets the nomination and reaches out to us Obama supporters.

In the end, "It's Iraq, the economy and the Supreme Court, stupid". I would never vote for McCentury and I won't vote for Nader.

[stillcool]

101. It will be a sad day....

I have eagerly voted for the Democratic Presidential Candidate since I started voting in 1980.

[Indenturedebtor]

102. Yes though it's not going to happen

Unless Obama has an "accident" it's just not going to happen at this point.

But I would do it to avoid more bloodshed in the middle east.

[bklyncowgirl]

103. Hold my nose with my left hand, pusth the button with my right and think of the Supreme Court. nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

104. With a stunned look on my face. (Other)

[Upton]

105. Not if she steals the nomination

the leader in pledged delegates at the end of the primary season should be the nominee. Case closed.

[lojasmo]

106. Gladly, if she wins a majority of pledged delegates.

If otherwise, I'll have to think about it. I'll vote democratic in all the downticket races, though.

[BootinUp]

110. I'm going to vote for none of the above and let McCain WIN!

You've GOT to GET MAD!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qgVn-Op7Q

[cooolandrew]

111. To be honest though to put the extreme opition in there, there must be doubts there by the OP...

I believe in the Democrats why I am on "Democratic underground".

[cooolandrew]

112. I am on Democratic underground I do what I say on the tin.

[shaniqua6392]

113. I don't care which one gets the nomination.

I will vote for the Democratic nominee. I don't have a horse in this race, per se. We just have to make sure it is not McCain. The Iraqi occupation and the Supreme Court should be motivation enough for anyone who says that they will not vote at all if Clinton is the nominee. Grow up already.

[Hippo_Tron]

115. Even if Hillary gets the nomination without pledged delegates I will still vote for her

Those Obama supporters who are saying that she can't "legitimately" win the nomination do need to realize that super delegates can vote for whomever they choose according to the rules.

I don't agree with the rules regarding super delegates, but they are the rules and as long as Hillary gets the nomination by the rules, she will be legitimate. The rules may be undemocratic but so is the electoral college and like it or not the person who wins a majority in the EC is the legitimately elected president.

BTW, just for the record I'm an Obama supporter and Al Gore won Florida in 2000.

[billyoc]

117. No fucking way. But I'd put my "Impeach Clinton" sign down long enough to vote

for down ballot Dems in local races.