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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:16 AM
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ARG (PA) Poll: Clinton 57%...Obama 37% Clinton up +20
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:17 AM by Tellurian
Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 48% to 44% among men (45% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 64% to 31%.

Clinton leads 64% to 29% among white voters (82% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 79% to 18% among African American voters (14% of likely Democratic primary voters).

Clinton leads 52% to 43% among voters age 18 to 49 (50% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 62% to 31% among voters age 50 and older.

10% of all likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 24% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary.

23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama's advertising is causing them to support Clinton.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:17 AM
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1. wasn't this posted two days ago?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:19 AM
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6. It was posted yesterday (several times)

got to hang on to something, I guess. The "bitter" attacks backfired, so
we won't have that slammed down our throats anymore.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:20 AM
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7. No.. that poll said Obama needs more TV ads..
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:25 AM
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16. Some of his latest Ads were well done dont you agree?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:25 AM by Zachstar
I mean outside of the political stuff you gotta admit they are pretty good right?
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:17 AM
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2. Nice polls. Nice Polls. Sigh...she will not be the nominee..bank on it.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:26 AM
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19. Not a good idea to assume that! Don't get lazy!!
We have got to assume at all times that clinton is ahead or will pull ahead until the day she exits!! So we need to work! Please Phonebank!!
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:31 AM
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24. I'm giving mad money every month..actually went to PA last week to work on the campaign..and phone
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:31 AM by NDambi
banked too. I just like to needle the Hildabeast bots with actual facts.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:33 AM
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27. We will need them after Clinton Exits so please don't screw with them.
Remember we got Congress seats to get democrats in!!
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 AM
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38. I hear you but either they will vote for Obama or they won't..what I say isn't going to change that
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 AM by NDambi
Just as I feel nothing a Hillary supporter can say will change what I do come November.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:48 AM
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43. Its not about that. Its about them overall.
Some of them feel alienated but I don't want them to have a serious reason to be (Like we need to stop calling them assholes and hillbots). We all need to work together to take back the .gov and repeal the many pieces of crap the republicans have done in the last 8 years.

If you see someone breaking the rules then hit the alert button but let us be focused from now on.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:55 AM
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47. Thanks Zach for your good sense here.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:06 AM
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55. I am just trying to think ahead. We NEED to unite and work on congress!!
Because that is the only way we can get the majorities and the members needed to start repealing the BS that has happened under Bush!
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:14 AM
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57. I'll keep it in mind...thanks for the reply..but I'm still no Hillary fan. Sorry.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:18 AM
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3. IT IS OVER! IT IS OVER!
oops...he is still ahead....
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:41 AM
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32. Clinton Shuts Out Obama in PA.. yep, it's Over for Obama.. nm
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:43 AM
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37. Not yet!! Obama supporters continue your support and turn this into a win!
(Most polls have him within 10 but it is a good idea to assume that poll is wrong!)

Please continues yall's phonebanking and support! And let us turn this into a win!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:43 AM
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36. Still clinging to that worn out old chestnut I see!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:18 AM
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4. ARG- one of the polling outfits that's been most inaccurate
this year, and already out of date. Pathetic little tellurian tries and fails- again.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:20 AM
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8. Why are you hurling a personal attack at Tellurian, cali, just because of a poll?
Jeesh
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:21 AM
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:28 AM
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20. You're right the truth is the truth.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 AM
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39. Why, because I can speak without attacking posters with demeaning vitriol..
Vitriol is an Obama supporter trait!
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:46 AM
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41. No because you're a bitter, attack Obama at all cost poster...just like Hilda..so yes pathetic fits
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 AM
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60. Pointing out Obama is 20pts behind Clinton in a PA poll is attacking?

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:32 AM
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25. because she's
thoroughly nasty and I have no respect for her. period.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:11 AM
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56. *ring ring*
Hello, pot? This is kettle.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:24 AM
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15.  I think this is slightly a good thing because it encourages us to work harder!
Let us phonebank Obama supporters! Let the Clinton supporters have their moment while we go to the phones!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:19 AM
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5. Dont get too excited more than one recent poll has Obama under 10.
Then again Obama supporters you may want to assume Obama is down by this much and lots of PHONEBANKING is needed!

So please Phonebank!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:20 AM
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9. Common Obama supporters! Let us Phonebank!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:21 AM
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10. Momentum. There's nothing like it. Just imagine how far she'll be ahead by next weekend. Ouch
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:22 AM
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12. Far ahead in what? Delegates, States won, popular vote? lol
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:22 AM
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13. The end of the obama campaign draws near.
TOO MUCH of a BAD THING is GOOD.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:25 AM
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:37 AM
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29. Latest CNN Poll of Polls has HRC ahead by 5%.
Looks like obama will be returning to the Senate and fading into obscurity SOON.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:39 AM
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31. Obama supporters you hear this! Work like you want that to be false!!
Phonebank!! Support!! Get Involved!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:52 AM
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45. The obama stuffing the ballot box days are coming to an end.
All the manipulation of caucuses, open elections and polls are finished. The SILENT MAJORITY will decide, NOT YOU.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:57 AM
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49. Calm down! You are making a serious accusation that has no basis in fact as far as I have seen.
He has not stuffed any ballot boxes you are just acting desperate in my view.

Please stop because you are doing great harm to Hillary Clinton's changes to get the nomination!!

--------------

Obama supports do not get crappy about this! We got a goal and that does not include getting in flame wars!

Please continue the phonebanking!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:03 AM
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53. BO has damaged the chances for a Democratic win in 2008.
Freshman Senator arrogance is NOT a pretty thing as MOST of US have learned.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:05 AM
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54. Look more than likely he is going to be the nominee. So how about going after the McCain campaign?
To get the chances back!!

Common! Think about Congress seats and McCain crap!!
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:47 AM
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42. Okay Doubless T..lol
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:24 AM
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14. HillaryISN'T44 NEVER bwaahahhaa
That bigoted site better break out the crown royal to drown your sorrow!
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:26 AM
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18. Yet 81 mayors don't show up for a "100 mayors" event for Hillary...
...and she had to cut a speech short because the audience kept talking and were ignoring her.

See, THIS should raise questions in people's minds about this poll because the other polls aren't reflecting the same trend and what has been going on in PA (the response of mayors and people attending a Hillary speech) are at odds with what the poll reports.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:31 AM
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23. How many pimps were there is the question?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:29 AM
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"Clinging" to a slight lead in something that she said would be
over Feb 5th. What's this, one in a row?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:41 AM
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33. Obama and his fans own the clinging bit.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:21 AM
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62. Snappy response rdancer. Certainly put me in my place.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:29 AM
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21. Pick A Poll...........
Tuesday is what matters.

It will be a whole hell of a lot closer than 20 points.

Especially if we can get this picture plastered all over the place before then.



Hmmmmmmm.....Crown Royal!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:30 AM
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22. We dont need that to stick to win! We are better than that!
Focus on the issues Focus on the lobby issues and the idea of Change!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:57 AM
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48. Oh no.. I didn't mean bitter... I meant you know, out of touch..no, I meant...


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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:32 AM
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26. about the whole 'Hillary is 44!' thing...
I was a little slow at first, not thinking about it in 'President #_______' terms...

I assumed she was lying about her age or something...

then I understood the whole '42..43..44..' aspect...

but now, after all the events of the past several months, I think maybe it is about lying, after all...
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:37 AM
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28. Still clinging to that ARG poll for dear life, eh?
Suit yourself.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:42 AM
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34. nope. Obama and his fans are the clingers.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:39 AM
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30. delighted to bring this the GREATEST
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:19 AM
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65. Thank you, rodeodance...
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:42 AM
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35. ....
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:46 AM by lojasmo
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:45 AM
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40. So basically, her support consists of just old, low-educated white women. Got it.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:49 AM
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44. Let us stop with that kind of crap. As that kind of talk divides us!
Common yall!! Lets stop the insults!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:55 AM
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46. **********WTF? Why post the same poll repeatedly, when the rest show single digit gaps?************
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:00 AM
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50. Dont worry about it. If they want to harm their support by posting inflated polls then oh well.
In the meantime we have the spirit and the hope to go forward to victory!!

So let us phonebank!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:00 AM
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51. This is the most accurate poll.. and will reflect so after the election...nm
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:01 AM
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52. Well let us assume that it is so and work to turn it to an Obama victory!!
Don't get mad or anything Obama supporters! Let us continue our support and work hard!! This poll is good as it shows we got additional work to do!!

Onward to victory! Let us Phonebank!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:35 AM
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59. Smartest post I've EVER seen from BO supporter!
Kudos to you!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:07 AM
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64. ....
:kick:
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:17 AM
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58. K&R
Go Hillary!!!
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:55 AM
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61. This post is a blatant LIE
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:29 AM
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63. New survey in PA. Obama 45% to CLinton 42%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_041608.pdf

Poor HRC not "clinging" too tightly to coronation chances.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:24 AM
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66. Gracious! I'm sure there are a hundred posts about why this poll is no good but GO HILLARY!
I can't WAIT for Tuesday. It's gonna be sweet!
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