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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:33 PM
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Man In Clinton's 'Bitter' Ad Isn't Registered To Vote
"Barack Obama can take some solace out of Hillary Clinton's new television ad in Pennsylvania. At least one of her supporters featured in the spot hammering Obama for his small town comments isn't registered to vote in Pennsylvania."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/man-in-clintons-bitter-ad_n_96939.html

:rofl:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:36 PM
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1. Sigh. Poor Hilarity Clinton.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 12:36 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: "Poot" is very different from "Poor".
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. I saw that...
which is why I didn't comment yet. :D
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:41 PM
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11. (blush)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. It was funny.
:)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
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23. I guess that's what they call a "gaffe".
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. Yes. THAT'S a gaffe, or a "mis-speak" (in the form of typing), unlike
making up a whole story about something that never happened.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. Yes, he's a new resident...So what of it? He shouldn't voice his opinion?

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:42 PM
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12. No, oh-outraged-one. lol. No-one says he shouldn't voice his opinion....
... You continue with your outrage, and your fear and uncertainty. The rest of us will just laugh. Join us when you're ready - but at your convenience.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #12
40. Wow you got all that from what seemed
a "average" response post? Well from a supporter of the candidate that espouses unity, change and we are all Americans, it is expected. Please keep supporting your candidate he needs you.
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ashrob123 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:51 PM
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14. You must admit this looks shady
Especially given that the campaign staff knew that he wasn't from the state and had just moved there. Why not find someone else who would say something similar? Could it be that they couldn't find anyone else? I mean really, what is the point in doing a supposed "man on the street" interview with Clinton volunteers?

Lies and deceit from Clinton. Must be Wednesday.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #14
70. lie?
what was the lie?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. He can voice his opinion by voting...........
It's like the old saying goes, if you don't vote you shouldn't complain - for when you do you look like a fool.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:02 PM
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19. PROBABLY should be registered to vote if you are going to be in an TV AD supporting a candidate.
Otherwise it looks like you are bringing in folks from out of state to influence the vote.

Just another mistake from the Clinton camp. Not surprised.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #8
27. As long as he's not pretending to be an outraged PA voter, yes
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #8
31. Tellurian, if Obama had done it, you'd be screaming it from the high heavens.
Get over yourself!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #8
33. He voiced his opinion... when he voted in New Jersey in Feb. nt
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:20 PM
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46. This is the second thread on the same topic, just rephrased with anothr thread starter..
Wow, how sneaky can you get.. Again, caught with your fingers in the cookie jar. You people have NO Shame!

"At least one of her supporters featured in the spot hammering Obama for his small town comments isn’t registered to vote in Pennsylvania.
Clyde Thomas, who sports a goatee in the ad and says, “the good people of Pennsylvania deserve a lot better than what Barack Obama said,” is actually registered in New Jersey. He voted there for Clinton Feb. 5. He only recently moved to Bethlehem, Pa.

Thomas said he was born in Scranton, but has lived his entire life in Somerville, N.J. He is a 46-year-old unemployed environmental engineer."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5528040
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:27 PM
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47. Hahahaha
This is the second thread on the same topic, just rephrased with anothr thread starter..
Posted by Tellurian
Wow, how sneaky can you get.. Again, caught with your fingers in the cookie jar. You people have NO Shame!

"At least one of her supporters featured in the spot hammering Obama for his small town comments isn’t registered to vote in Pennsylvania.
Clyde Thomas, who sports a goatee in the ad and says, “the good people of Pennsylvania deserve a lot better than what Barack Obama said,” is actually registered in New Jersey. He voted there for Clinton Feb. 5. He only recently moved to Bethlehem, Pa.

Thomas said he was born in Scranton, but has lived his entire life in Somerville, N.J. He is a 46-year-old unemployed environmental engineer."


------------------

Not only is not from PA, he's not exactly blue collar... Environmental Engineer no less. Sounds like a liberal elitist to me! :rofl: Too rich. Almost as funny as HRC's war hero stories and Annie Oakley impersonation.

FAIL! :rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. You won't be laughing when BO loses the Nom to Hillary..
laughing so hard you'll be a charter member of the Boo-Hoo Club!



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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:36 PM
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2. Why does that not surprise me?
Was wondering if the people in that add are even living in or from PA - and how much were they paid to spout this rubbish........
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:38 PM
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4. The Clinton camp probably went around looking for "average-looking" Pennsylvanians.
They probably just paid these people to say what they TOLD them to say.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:48 PM
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67. speculation n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #67
74. "Probably." n/t
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:38 PM
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3. Oops
Hillary, over here -


:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:40 PM
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6. Wow, that's indicative of some fairly far-reaching oppo. Line by line, name by name.
Quite a "machine."

Of course, the guy DID vote, in NJ, where he lived before he moved to PA.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:06 PM
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20. He claimed to "know" Pennsylvanians-"The good people of Pennsylvania deserve a lot better than what
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 01:06 PM by jenmito
Barack Obama said." :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:17 PM
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24. I have a relative by marriage who came from NJ, but was PA Dutch through and through.
You DO realize that many people who reside in NJ are more focused on PA for working, shopping, socializing, and so forth, and might actually know 'the good people of PA' because they interact with them regularly?

Or maybe you don't realize that the two states are contiguous?

Since you're laughing so hard....maybe you don't....

It's like suggesting that someone from Cambridge doesn't know Boston at all...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:25 PM
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28. WOW-what an attempt to spin this! First of all, I lived in NJ the first 34 years of my life...
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 01:26 PM by jenmito
I went to college in Trenton and went into Philly several times. I do NOT "know" how the people in PA feel.

Nice try. :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:16 PM
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50. Tell it to my deer hunting in-law. WOW--you "went into Philly" several times!!
Lucky fucking you.

You didn't read what I wrote, and then attempted to paper your halfassed experience over what I said, and thus make it "universal" in some fashion.

Smooth move, not quite-- keep straining. Pathetic.

Nice try, indeed.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:30 PM
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51. Um, you implied I don't realize that the two states are contiguous. You're way off.
You're ALSO way off trying to excuse the actor in the ad as a "real Pennsylvanian."

Nice try-not.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:42 PM
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52. No. I didn't IMPLY anything. I straight out said that YOUR experience is nothing more
than your shitty experience, and not instructive of anything. You can't paper your "Ewwww, I lived in TRENTON and ....uh, uh...went to PHILLY a few times" as anything other than your shitty little experience.

It's apropos of nothing more than your little life.

Lousy try. Your experience is yours. And it's rather provincial, too.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:57 PM
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55. YOUR words:
"You DO realize that many people who reside in NJ are more focused on PA for working, shopping, socializing, and so forth, and might actually know 'the good people of PA' because they interact with them regularly?

Or maybe you don't realize that the two states are contiguous?

Since you're laughing so hard....maybe you don't...."


Like your relative's experience is at all relevant to the fact Hillary's commercial has phony "blue-collar Pennsylvanians." :rofl:

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:03 PM
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56. Another "concrete" type.
Sorry if you can't take the larger meaning in a rhetorical question. It's reflective of your ability to take larger points or see bigger issues.

And that's not a terribly GOOD thing, either. Just in case you were confused about that.

It's rather like a disability, almost--one for which no social services are available.

And you're stuck on that little rolling man, too, aren't ya? Poor you.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. Yeah, right. You're the one trying to deflect from the fact that the "average joe" in this ad is
NOT what he portrays himself to be!

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. He didn't make a secret of it. It's your crew that is trying to play the GOTCHA game.
But go on and spin, and spend time getting all jacked up about it.

It's what you do.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Did he say in the ad that he voted in NJ?
:rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. The ad wasn't about that, now, was it?
He was upfront about it BEFORE it was filmed.

But hey, keep getting excited. It's amusing to see how little it takes.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #60
61. It sure was implied (unless you shut off your common sense)!
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 06:38 PM by jenmito
He was? Which major media outlet did he offer this info. to before it aired?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. As fixated as a border collie, aren't you?
Not quite so clever, though.

Read the articles on the subject. He didn't give an interview to any major media outlets, ya tool, he told the campaign ahead of the filming.

But whatever. You keep woofing away.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. You call me a "tool" when I give you credit for having common sense? Classy,
just like your candidate. Telling the CAMPAIGN is not the same as "not making a secret of it." Truth be told-you're an idiot!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:44 PM
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65. You're a border collie. NT
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #65
66. And I'm STILL smarter than you!
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 06:45 PM by jenmito
:hi: WOOF!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Think that if it keeps you warm at night.
What a sad life you must live.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. Sorry, but
my husband keeps me warm at night. Not thinking about how dumb you are. :rofl:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. .
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 06:54 PM by MADem
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #69
72. Thinking about how dumb I am, 'rofl'--how charming of you!
Typical Obama supporter.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #72
76. You thinking that ME thinking about how dumb you are keeps me warm at night...
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 06:59 PM by jenmito
And I'M the "tool"? :hi:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. Keep it up. NT
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. WOOF!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. ...
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #63
73. don't insult border collies n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:40 PM
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7. Someone called Stephanie Miller today and said that someone in the commerical
works for the Clinton campaign and lives in New Jersey...

:eyes:
rocknation
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. Well, that's even WORSE!
But no more surprising...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #7
18. I knew it. And the same guy was one of the "protesters".
He looks like a great big freeper.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:40 PM
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9. Can she sue her campaign staff?
DAMN!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
10. Better yet!
The Morning Call is a large PA paper that reaches all the small towns in the North Eastern part of the state lol.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:42 PM
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13. I hope he says something about this in the debate
"You don't even use real PA residents in your ads when you attack me" should be the gist of the line.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. It would be funny if he said that...
and gave a great big smile afterwards.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
75. He's not that stupid
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:11 PM
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22. LOL
:thumbsup:
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:19 PM
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25. Wait until he asks....
camp Hillary for a paycheck?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Kinda reminds me of the folks that dress up like the Statue of Liberty and walk around in front of tax preparers offices every 4-14 waving at everyone?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:23 PM
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26. Actor's guild... one from New Jersey... the other doesn't even VOTE
I love the internet
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:30 PM
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30. Oh-so those are two different people in the ad?!
Thanks for the info! :hi:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. no no no stop, come back
I had the wrong ad in mind, while reading these posts...

it's NOT info... just reacting to two different threads... presuming they COULD well be true...

do NOT quote me, ok?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #32
35. Oh, ok...
No problem! :hi:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:36 PM
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34. Bwhaaaaaahahahahahahahaha....
...she bites herself in the ass again!

K&R...:hi: Hi, Jen!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. I knew you'd like that...
Thanks. Yup-and she probably will again, too!

Hey, Hepburn! :hi:
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:39 PM
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36. The worst part of this is,
when I saw this phrase:

Clyde Thomas, who sports a goatee in the ad

I thought for a brief moment it said "goatse". I need to stay off the internet. :P
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:40 PM
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38. lol
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 01:40 PM by Arrowhead2k1
It was obvious to me that these were supporters pulled from her campaign rally's and had rehearsed their lines. It's good to see one getting exposed though. Let's find out just who these other "average Pennsylvanians" are.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. Yeah...it's characterized as a "man on the street" ad...
what bull. :rofl:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:54 PM
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41. Report: Obama's Operation Research Effective in Dismantling Appropriate Criticism.
It wasn't Dan Rather's report that was untrue, it was the copied memo. Remember?

Republican tactics? Here you go.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. "Appropriate criticism"? It's an opinion (supposedly). Not at ALL comparable to Dan Rather
and the report about Bush's lack of service!!! Nice try! :rofl:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. The tactics are the same though, absolutely. Stifle criticism by destroying the messenger. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:11 PM
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45. ...
:rofl: They were supposed to be REAL Pennsylvanians giving THEIR opinions! Instead, they were actors/people paid by Hillary to say those things/Hillary partisans.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:01 PM
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78. evidence? n/t
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:57 PM
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43. lol hahah
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:40 PM
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49. How long as he lived in PA?.?.? Did he vote in NJ because he didn't think PA would matter?.?.?

He said he has been volunteering for the campaign in recent weeks, handing out literature and making phone calls. He said the campaign approached him about appearing in the ad, which was filmed in Bethlehem, a city of about 72,000 residents in eastern Pennsylvania where Bethlehem Steel once stood tall.

“They gave me no script,” he said.

Asked about the fact that Thomas isn’t registered in Pennsylvania, Clinton campaign spokesman Mark Nevins said: “Clyde has deep roots in Pennsylvania and is moving back to the state after having voted in New Jersey in their primary for Hillary Clinton.”


“It shouldn’t be a big deal. I explained it to the campaign,” Thomas said in an interview. “I see Pennsylvanians for what they are. I grew up with the values of Pennsylvanians.”

He added: “I am from a perspective of someone coming into Pennsylvania new like Barack Obama is, and seeing how great they are and how they welcome me.” :shrug:


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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:51 PM
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53. I saw on this board that it was about 3 weeks. n/t
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:57 PM
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54. I thought we all assumed they were paid actors anyway?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 05:57 PM by kwenu
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:40 PM
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62. It was a "man on the street" ad. Matthews said tonight he could tell they were real.
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