Hillary = D version of Dubya... Obama = D version of Reagan. Discuss. n/t

[stevietheman]

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[BlooInBloo]

1. That's just stupid on both comparisons. No matter which candidate I supported.

[Cosmocat]

7. Right ... I have completely lost any patience

that I had for Hill, but to compare her to the Disaster in Chief is just going ridiculous ...

[Deja Q]

2. We're boned?

:shrug:

[SoCalDem]

3. nope.. reagan was FAKE

just a friendly bobblehead they pushed out on stage to smile & recite his lines..

the real nuts & bolts of the administration went on behind the curtain..and was all run by Poppy & his henchmen

[maddiejoan]

4. I don't see either as apt

I'm more tempted to say this is Stevenson versus JFK

hell even Teddy Kennedy versus Carter is more apt.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. Reagan was a senile old puppet and Bush is flat out evil

I don't like the comparisons.

[rox63]

6. Invalid comparison

Both Clinton and Obama are 100+ times better than Bush or Reagan.

[WA98070]

8. Reagan was a union busting a-hole. How do you compare that to B.O.?

[smiley_glad_hands]

9. My head wants to explode now. lol thanks

I'll be twitching for 5 mins now because of the thought.

[stellanoir]

10. Reagan was a B grade actor who had pandered to corporate interests ever since he

was a democrat. He threw mentally ill people onto the street and ripped the solar panels off the white house and ended alternative energy incentives. Look where that's left us. His sycophants have trashed everything.

He was a half way decent orator.

HRC voted for the Patriot Act, IWR, the Bankruptcy Bill, and Kyle Leibermann. She has enabled * to presumptively enhance her alleged electability. It's all about her.
Not about us.

I want a hoopster in the WH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyuLD8FHwJc

[JoFerret]

11. Obama has more in common with Bush

all that compassion and gush and religiosity.

Clinton has more in common with - well - actually neither of them have much in common with either of those two creepy republicans.

[Texas Hill Country]

12. DUMB

[donheld]

13. Yes DUMB is right.

[damonm]

14. I see both, and here's why -

While I do not equate Clinton with the Master of Disaster (MoD) by ANY means, I do see enough similarities to give me pause. First is Clinton's penchant for secrecy (yeah, given the treatment she's gotten, I can understand the impulse - it's STILL not good), which, coming on the heels of the most secretive administration I can recall, does not fill me with hope for improvement.

Second is her noted tendency to value personal connection over competence, as has been evidenced by her senior campaign staff. Let's face it - there is NO WAY she should be behind Obama at this point, given the edge she had going in. This also bothers me - would such problems also crop up in a H. Clinton White House as they have in the MoD's?

As to Obama = Progressive Reagan:

Just as Reagan was able to persuade the public to his agenda back in the 80's, I see Obama being just as effective (note: I DID NOT SAY Reagan was good - I say he was EFFECTIVE)in taking a Progressive agenda to the public as reagan was at selling the conservative agenda. His charisma is similar to that of Reagan (and if you don't think he had any, take off your partisan blinders - he had LOADS. How else do you explain his "teflon", and huge victories?), and we are at a similar moment in history.

In 1980, liberalism was popularly perceived as having overreached and exhausted itself. Along comes Reagan, a charismatic, engaging speaker with a "fresh" take on the conservative agenda, offering a strong, confident vision of America when liberals had been talking about "malaise" and "lowered expectations". For the right, Reagan was the correct man at the correct time.

Now, in 2008, conservatism is seen to have overreached, having no fresh ideas, having no vision save "there are gonna be more wars", and offering no solutions to the problems facing the nation here in the early 21st century. A time when 81% of Americans think the country is on the wrong track. Along comes Obama, a charismatic, engaging speaker offering a hopeful, positive vision for America, speaking to those disempowered (if there's such a word) and offering them the seat at the table they've been denied, and telling them "Yes, We Can!" while the GOP is telling them they can't do any better. At this point in history, for the left, (hell, for the NATION)Obama is also the correct person at the correct time.