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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:52 PM
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After tonight, we have a job to do.
We need to do all we can to make sure the story told about tonight's debate is the one that should be told. What Obama and Clinton said does not matter. This story is about the debate moderators, and the debate itself. This was a shameless, disgusting, and above all blatant attempt at political assassination. I've no fear that ABC/Disney would give a damn about that. But frankly, I don't give a flying rat fuck about what they think. What matters is what story everyone *else* tells about ABC/Disney. "Media Bias" gets thrown around a lot, and often as not it's just a bullshit excuse for a poor performance. That isn't the case tonight. This is about as clear as it gets.

Your job is not to put a call to censor, or censure ABC. Your job is not to bitch about how it even more unfair to your favorite candidate, even if you believe(as I do) that it may have been. That, frankly, doesn't matter. Your job is to spread the word that this was blatant character assassination of both Democratic candidates on prime time TV by a major television network. That's the only goddamned story about tonight that matters.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:53 PM
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1. I agree 100%. That is the real story. We have to let them know the times have changed
and we, the public are not going to fucking hoodwinked anymore. Fuck them!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:55 PM
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2. WOW -- olbie just said that same thing
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:56 PM
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3. Christ, just give him the damn pillow.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:57 PM
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4. excuse me?
.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:06 PM
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5. Find another candidate?
Hey, I can dream - at least until the convention nominates someone.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:10 PM
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6. Didn't the debates used to all be on PBS?
Not that PBS are saints, but at least it's not commercial or owned by Disney.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:13 PM
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8. And they used to be run by League of Women Voters.
who did a good job IMO.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:32 PM
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15. They quit
When the new Presidential Debate Commission was created, and the two parties were the heads, and they started setting the rules with the networks - the League stepped aside. They said they weren't going to be a part of it turning into the farce that it has become.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 PM
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16. Exactly, they got forced out.
I am sick of this crap. This was the worst debate EVER.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:39 PM
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19. West Coast, I didn't see it
I'm not sure I'm going to watch.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:13 PM
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7. I agree. The moderators totally STANK. nt
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:15 PM
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9. It was awful...........ABC truly sucks..
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:19 PM
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10. DING DING DING! Enki23, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:20 PM by rocknation
What Obama and Clinton said does not matter. This story is about the debate moderators, and the debate itself.

Though I'm not happy that Obama got hit with more "gate" questions than Hillary, I resented that they took up the entire first half of the debate. And if there's any truth to what I've been hearing about George S. preparing his questions with the help of Sean Hannity--well, we have a job to do, indeed. Whether you are for Obama and Hillary, I say that we give ABC hell tomorrow!!!!

Here's their e-mail contact Web page.

:headbang:
rocknation
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:26 PM
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14. Thanks!
I wrote them a beaute! Railed against the moderators, not so much the candidates.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:21 PM
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11. ...because we didn't do our job decades *before* tonight's debate.
MSM hit piece, all right.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:22 PM
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12. Pot an Pan fun day II
???? Seriously...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:23 PM
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13. K&R
:kick:
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:35 PM
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17. .... so your candidate stunk up the house... and you are going to blame the moderators?
sure... that will work.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:45 PM
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24. you are part of the problem.
.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:38 PM
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18. Spot on
K&R

:kick:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 PM
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20. I've been saying for a long while we've got Olberman on TV that's it...
DON'T COMPLAIN PLEASE it makes it worrse... I beg you don't we just work round it and just support Keith and novamradio.com and headonradionwtwork.com and of course olberman
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:39 PM
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25. ? ? ? ?
did you understand the post or not?

:shrug:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 PM
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21. I've been saying for a long while we've got Olberman on TV that's it...
DON'T COMPLAIN PLEASE it makes it worrse... I beg you don't we just work round it and just support Keith and novamradio.com and headonradionwtwork.com and of course olberman
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:40 PM
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22. 5300 comments about the deba(cl)te can't be wrong!
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:41 PM
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23. Ready to act. I just started a thread asking for Photoshop help
I want to get some buttons made for the non-internet folks.
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