HIllary Clinton's campaign will try to drop the Ayers bomb and it will explode in their face

[zulchzulu]

Yellow-toothed Wolfson was just on Keith Olbermann's show and tried to make an issue of the Ayers "connection" as per Boy Georgie's big "question" in the debate. It looks like this may be the next attack on Obama and like "Bittergate", it will backfire. Obama even mentioned how Bill Clinton pardoned Weather Undergrounders... I hope they step into the trap.

I did a Handy Guide on this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5451010

Here's all you need to know about this "story:"

As Newsday pointed out, Clinton has her own, also tenuous, Weatherman connection. Her husband commuted the sentences of a couple of convicted Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, shortly before leaving office in January 2001.

Which is worse: pardoning a convicted terrorist or accepting a campaign contribution from a former Weatherman who was never convicted?

Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and "passion for social justice."

"This whole connection is a stretch," Harrington told me. "Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns."

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/03/14/mccain_reaches_over_hannity_and_limbaugh_to_reach_out_to_conservatives.php

[AtomicKitten]

1. I predict Hillary will hit maximum bullshit-to-negativity ratio and will implode.

[zulchzulu]

4. I think she's now in the driver's suit of the Clinton Campaign car bomb

[AtomicKitten]

35. Hey, I just got done watching the debate.

:hi:

My thoughts on the debate:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5539255&mesg_id=5542517

[LTR]

2. The Clintons have some of their own questionable characters in their closets

Does she really want to go there?

Then again, I doubt she has any shame left at this point.

[Cha]

3. Thanks for the archived

handy guide, zulch! They are such A$$holes that the only thing that's going to stop them is if this does Blowback in their collective Monsterhead.

[zulchzulu]

6. I knew they would eventually drag this crap out...

I'm glad Barack mentioned how Bill pardoned Weather Undergrounders...he can just keep saying that and PISS OFF Bill...who will then explode in some nonsense that should then be the big story this weekend.

I hope the Clinton Car Bomb falls into the trap.

[Cha]

How stupid to even go there when bil

clinton pardoned them.

[earthlover]

5. The organization that Ayers and Obama share membership in is actually a progressive neat cool thing!

I have put it on my list to donate to. The ABC illiterates made it sound like it was some sort of subversive organization!
joseph mccathy lives at ABC

[zulchzulu]

8. Absolutely!

Affordable housing for the poor... bad bad bad....

:sarcasm:

[jasmine621]

11. You folks really need to do your homework. nt

[madrchsod]

17. ya right..talking points are so easy

doing ten minutes of research is just to hard to do...

[zulchzulu]

19. OK Einstein...what is wrong with the Woods Foundation? Let's see this...

:rofl:

No, it's not from San Francisco.

[NYCGirl]

26. Here, do yours:

http://www.woodsfund.org/

Building Power from Within Communities - Woods Fund of Chicago Invests in Building Resident Participation in the South Side’s Renaissance

Through our South Side Community Organizing Initiative, the Woods Fund focuses its resources on less-advantaged residents who have historically been left out of the democratic process. Our foundation is committed to building a more robust community organizing infrastructure in this part of the city. We hope the valuable lessons we have learned will help inform and advance the continued development and impact of “people power” in all under-resourced communities.

[zulchzulu]

36. < < < < crickets > > > >

Looks like we scared him/her off...

[featherman]

7. Bill's a good guy... this is bullshit

[zulchzulu]

12. If the Clinton Car Bombers want to bring up Ayers, expect Clinton's pardons to be mentioned

If they want to go into the trap...well...booom!

[guruoo]

24. Which is exactly why the Repugs have been working so hard to destroy them

[donheld]

37. Please explain to me, why is Hillary getting all chummy with one of

the right wingers who was totally instrumental in trying to destroy the Clintons?
One Richard Mellon Scaife.

[guruoo]

43. I think the real question here is: Why is he getting chummy with her? ...

Answer: He knows the tide has turned. And as far as she is concerned,
I believe it's good strategy on her part. I've used the same strat in campaigns
I've worked on. It's called soften the opposition.

[donheld]

45. No that is not tne question

IMHO a rape victim does not usually become friendly with her rapist.

[guruoo]

47. I think it's exactly what I said it is.

[jasmine621]

9. Sorry, the bomb was already dropped. And HRC didn't do it.

It is now fair game.

[zulchzulu]

16. Wolfson just said it was fair game. So it's fair game to mention Bill's pardoning terrorists

If the Clinton Car Bombers want to play in that pit, the dynamite is ready to light when they step in.

[guruoo]

21. Only prob w/this is that Bill's pardons are old news....

IMO, these weather pardons, and campaign contributions are both bullshit issues.

[Masterofarts]

10. If the Ayers non-story were worth repeating, it would have been spread already

As you can see, it wasn't, because their is no substance in it.

[Medusa]

13. Bitter drove her favorables down to 38%

Let them push Ayers. It'll push her down to MINUS numbers.

[guruoo]

32. IMO, that reaction came more from his statement, than from her rebuttal.

[madrchsod]

14. the clintons have a FALN problem

that makes ayers meeting obama silly... anyone making a huge story out of ayers is really silly

[guruoo]

22. The FALN pardons are old news, and about Bill, not Hillary

[mrreowwr_kittty]

27. If she can claim the good from his administration, then she gets tagged with the bad as well. nt

[guruoo]

31. I'm not so sure if that would actually work both ways, politically speaking.

[rug]

25. The FALN pardons were the right thing to do. He should have pardoned Peltier.

[Major Hogwash]

41. Do you remember what the name of the FBI chief who threatened to quit if Bubba did pardon Peltier?

He was the ex-Governor of Oklahoma, a Republican, but I can't remember his name offhand.

[rug]

42. No, I'll try to google it later.

[Major Hogwash]

46. Frank Keating

Keep that in your back pocket for later against McCain.

[democrat2thecore]

48. That's CHARLES Keating - no relation to former OK Gov. FRANK Keating -nt

[Major Hogwash]

49. I didn't say he was related to Charles Keating, though, did I?

So, thank you for assuming what I was going to say next!!

There is more to this story than just Charles Keating!
I wasn't even talking about the Keating 5.

[democrat2thecore]

50. Sorry. I didn't read closely. But, the FBI Director who threatened to quit was Freeh (Link inside)

http://www.revcom.us/a/v22/1080-89/1088/peltier.htm

[BeyondGeography]

15. He was ready with that at the debate as well

Eventually, that response will sink in. But right now the MSM is too infatuated with any new "dirt" on Obama to notice.

[zulchzulu]

18. Headline to throw back: Bill Clinton pardoned TWO UNDERGROUND TERRORISTS

Come on Clinton Car Bombers, the trap is nice and ready. Walk in. Don't mind the strings attached to the dynamite. It's only a little fire.

:rofl:

[nsd]

20. Even Clinton's not that shameless ... or that stupid.

If they try it, real Democrats will never forgive her.

[guruoo]

23. Now how many times has that been said?

[nsd]

28. I worry you might be right about the Clinton campaign.

But I'm still hopeful that Democrats in PA will see through this.

[guruoo]

29. Think of the ringer she had already been put though before

she breezed into her Senate seat.

[rndmprsn]

30. K&R

[RamboLiberal]

33. NY Times story on one of the pardons-2 cops & guard were killed

An unusual combination of New York political and law enforcement leaders have condemned former President Bill Clinton's pardon of Susan L. Rosenberg, a one-time member of the Weather Underground terrorist group who was charged in the notorious 1981 Brink's robbery in Rockland County that left a guard and two police officers dead.

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a Republican, and United States Senator Charles E. Schumer, a Democrat, were among those who criticized the pardon, as did Bernard B. Kerik, New York City's police commissioner, and David Trois, a Rockland County police union official.

''It sickened me,'' Mr. Kerik said yesterday of the pardon, one of 140 granted Saturday, the final day of Mr. Clinton's tenure.

Ms. Rosenberg served 16 years in jail after she was found with a companion in New Jersey in 1984 unloading 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons, including a submachine gun, from a car. She admitted her role in the New Jersey case, in which she had planned to supply others with explosives for politically motivated bombings.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06EED7133CF931A15752C0A9679C8B63

[zulchzulu]

34. HIllary Clinton used 9/11 to LIE about what Ayers said about his WU actions

Ayers was asked in 2001 whether he thought the actions he did were something he should apologize for and he unfortunately said he wished they had bombed more.

What Hillary did was LIE ABOUT AYERS and his statement about his Weather Underground actions and imply he was referring to the events that happened on 911. She then eluded that Obama had met Ayers AFTER 911.

This is yet another pathetic LIE to add to her stacks of LIES.

[Raine]

38. Hillary is so desperate

she will say or do ANYTHING to further her ambitions.

[dkf]

39. LAME.

This is the stupidest thing to pin on a person ever. I am LAUGHING at how sad its gotten. Man its pathetic.

[MagickMuffin]

40. I'm sure you noticed after Barack mentioned Bill's pardons,

they asked Hillary if she wanted to comment on it and she said no. Did you also notice the look on her face?.?.? She kinda looked surprised that Barack brought it up.

I guess this could be viewed as a positive, in that the more dirt they try and fling, the more it will backfire, and by November no one will care because it will be over done.

The Rev. Wright episode has already played itself out, even tho they KEEP trying to make it an issue, no one cares anymore.

The NY Times has already exposed the Ayers 9-11 story, and how it was something he had written about in his memoirs, and had nothing to do with 9-11. Kinda makes Hillary's Camp look like the liars and deceivers that they are, and people are noticing.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens next. I know Barack won't let this pass, if they persist in stirring the "scandal pot" it will only make them look more desperate.

[zulchzulu]

44. The look on her face when he brought up the pardons

She looked shocked...he actually was showing that he had his cards ready to lay on the table...

That's not to say the Clinton campaign Car Bombers won't try to bring it up for the weekend...