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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:43 PM
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PLEASE DON'T COMPLAIN TO ABC
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:45 PM by cooolandrew
It only make it worse if we complain, if you have disagreements with them make your point kindly, firmly and sincerely. They do have ultimate power however we cut it. If we be as nice as we possibly can to all networks when corresponding we'll make life easier for candidates than worse.

They may just ignore us but to further entrench them is so counter productive. Some things you have to handle with somuch care.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:44 PM
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1. Fuck that
Get the pitch forks.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:44 PM
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2. I think you are living
in an alternate universe. I will let them know that I will not patronize any of their sponsors.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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Who are their sponsors?
you have a list?
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:02 PM
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29. I'll do a google
and get back to you.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:11 PM
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39. Try this for starters...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/6/123212/7371

look down the thread, there's a list
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:13 PM
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40. Thank you!!!
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:45 PM
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3. They lowered the level of discourse in this country
by MILES tonight.

You bet I'll complain.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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7. We all know they do this we just have to use other meida like liberal radio but all hostility does..
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:50 PM by cooolandrew
is move them further away from the people. I know it's icky but imagine in their shoes thousands coming at them with anger they'll just go oh we'l show them. Call them but not with anger jsut well reasoned points.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:21 PM
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43. I know how to complain without being hostile.
I am a Southern Lady, after all.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:45 PM
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4. Go along to get along will not work.
Time to raise hell.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:51 PM
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16. It would be nice to think we could control the media but mostly we can't just suggest to them not ..
much else really.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:02 PM
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30. The media is designed to control us.
The tell us what to think and what to buy. Whats in and whats out. The only thing they respond to is when we stop watching the shows they put their commercials in. Then they change the show so we will watch the commercials.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:46 PM
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5. they treated both candidates horribly
and totally insulted our intelligence. Both of them should have walked out. Standing there answering these stupid questions gave it credibility. I am livid
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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6. Dumb post.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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8. I will find Gibson, Stephanopolous.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:48 PM by Red Zelda
And punch them both in the nose. THAT is how revolution starts, even if Americans are too wimpy to hear it.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:47 PM
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9. I complained
I didn't swear at them or call them numbnuts, but I did ask them why they think Democrats want to hear about Repuke talking points in Democratic debates.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:06 PM
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35. You didn't apologize to Charlie that his capital gaines taxes
might go up?

I ended mine that way.
I've never seen such a horrible debate. No way should ABC do one for the general if they want to push Republican angles.
and the VP question. And the being apologetic that Clinton wasn't getting equal time because of that media bias giving Obama all that time to be attacked.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:48 PM
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10. You folks are a hoot! Please be sure to censor who came up with this on your OTHER site?
;) :evilgrin:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:48 PM
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11. oh hell no, not this time, not ever again. No acquiesce thank you.
no consession speech in novemeber from our side, no surrender.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 PM
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12. YOU ARE WRONG
THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM US OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

WE SHOULD BE PROTESTING THE MEDIA AND SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS FOR YEARS.

1 MILLION PROTESTERS ON THE STEPS OF ABC CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 PM
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13. I don't know. I've heard lots of TV personalities
swear to the fact that the GOP and conservatives got the slanted news coverage (propaganda) that they wanted in the late 90s and on until 2005 because those fuckwads wrote letters to the station managers complaining about every negative * story.

Who knows. Maybe you Obamacans can get the media to work for progressives for awhile!
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 PM
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14. I'm about ready to take out the local affiliate.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:50 PM
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15. bull-shit!
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:50 PM by Blue_Roses
they do NOT have the "ultimate powers" since there are other cable shows and let's not forget the most important --sponsers. Besides, it's our RIGHT to call bullshit when we see it and tonight's debate was simply that--bullshit.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:51 PM
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17. No can do. Complain, boycott and watch the results
I firmly let them know there will be no more Disney movies in my home nor will I be watching ABC short of a public apology.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:53 PM
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19. Boycott yes, but can we change them with anger, same as in real life, kinda unlikely.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:58 PM by cooolandrew
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:59 PM
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26. Cool the anger channel it into making calls and making an enthusiasitc pitch for votes in PA.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:02 PM by cooolandrew

We gotta be constructive than destructive. Calling PA is the call we need to make explain to them what happened tonight politely start a debate that way. That moves us forward than back. Remember not this time, especially if we are wiser and smarter.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:52 PM
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18. Make my point kindly?
Are you serious? People are dying by the tens of thousands in Iraq and the ABC wizards wanted to talk about flag pins? Jesus!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:56 PM
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20. I understand the anger no doubt about it but it will only make them worse we just have to make firm
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 PM by cooolandrew
points why they were wrong and not provoke more negative reaction from them down the line. They know what they are doing as long, as we handle them more carefully.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 PM
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22. They can get fucking worse
I've blocked them ESPN and The Disney channel from my cable.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 PM
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21. No they don't have "ultimate" anything, I don't have to buy any of their sponsors shit
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:57 PM
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23. Be nice to the REAL people that answer the phone
and then tell their automated system that those debate moderators can go fuck a duck.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:58 PM
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24. Exactly right. /nt
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:58 PM
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25. Shut up. Stay in line. Don't make waves. Behave yourself. Submit. Obey.
Return to your homes. There's nothing to see here. Tune in American Idol. Ignore the fact that America is going down the drain. Obey. Obey. Obey.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:00 PM
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27. yeah, we don't to "Makes things worse" oh heavens no!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:04 PM
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34. No way am I saying shut up. Just make your point politely it may just be an innocent receptionist...
who is just eaning a paycheck they don't need the heat. What makes wave is making calls to PA than to ABC right now.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:01 PM
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28. Watch me.
Trust us, we'll see to it that ABC pays dearly for this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:03 PM
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31. Please don't roll over
and play dead. We have a country to get back.

"NOT THIS TIME".
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:06 PM
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36. Not saying roll over do call but handle them with care, is all I say.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:04 PM
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32. Right. And being polite got Shuster suspended from MSNBC, right?
I say... let 'em hear whatever's on your mind!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:04 PM
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33. Official Message from the Obama Campaign
5 words

You know what to do


http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGC5MH

Can someone get this as an OP?

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:17 PM
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42. Thanks for this Jake!
I already emailed them but this awesome 'cause of how many will read Obama's site! It's us against the m$$$$fm that's been instrumental in giving us bush and the War On Iraq and now they wanna stick us with mccain..they don't give a shit.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:21 PM
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44. They know us
They don't give us any links or anything...just tell us that we know what to do.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:07 PM
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37. TOO LATE
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:07 PM
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38. i'm on the west coast and i simply won't watch
i heard a little of it and i don't think it's worth my time to watch and i don't want ABC's sponsors to realize any gain from my viewing of this tabloid debate.

and I should note that Gibson despite getting to ask many questions asked one of them twice to the same candidate, that is the capital gains tax question (it increases revenue) and then he asked it again almost verbatim after Obama answered.

Gibson is an idiot and an asshole. this is not his "personal time" to harangue candidates. See ya ABC, I've tuned in for the other ones, forget it, what I heard on the radio was enough to know I didn't need to hear the rest (or watch it).
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:14 PM
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41. I complained about quality
I didn't complain about bias in either or any direction. I complained about the stunning badness and lack of substance of the debate. I don't see why complaints like that should entrench them in any particular way.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:25 PM
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45. I agree with Andrew
If you do email ABC, be polite and to make your point about what you thought was wrong with the debates. I didn't personally see the debate (being overseas and not having any news channels sucks), but that might be a good think as it probably will keep my blood pressure lower then those that did see it. Channel the energy into donating, volunteering and doing positive things that further the campaign.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:33 PM
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48. Exactly I am thinking constructive than meeting a brick wall they wouldn't do what they did if ABC
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:36 PM by cooolandrew
cared. They did it they know they did it and they give 2 hoots if we compalin. Let's work around them than against them. Make our calls to PA they do more for our candidates than meeting resistance.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:27 PM
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46. Ultimate power?
Fox News? CNN? MSNBC? Power over me? Never. I may not have many choices, but subjecting myself to the false reality portrayed by the 'news' media is one I do have. Or should I be afraid that our government has given them the right to rendition anyone who complains?
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:30 PM
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47. Yeah, I agree but we've complained many times over the years still the same just complain wisely and
certianly boycott.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:50 PM
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49. How can you boycott a global corporation?
I can't even figure out how many industries/companies they're invested in..fingers in every pot. I've had ABC blocked since their "Path to 9/11". I shouldn't have bothered, but I thought I was going to see a debate.
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