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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:18 AM
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I apologize to everyone I offended here for calling Hillary a Bitch.
I regret making that post last night and I would have
deleted it, if I had been home at my computer. To all
of you I offended, I am sorry.

Although I still think the elephant in the room is
her staying in the race when it is mathematically
close to impossible for her to win, I do think,
after listening to her last night, that she is
a very knowledgable person. She has a very strong
grasp of issues and I believe would work very
hard to make things happen.

Up until last night, I said I would never, in a
million years vote for her if Obama didn't get
the nomination. I still don't like her - but now
I am eating my words because I believe I
would vote for her over not voting or voting
for McPain.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:21 AM
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30. "fucking bitch" You could learn from the MATURE OP. But you choose to be IMMATURE.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:59 PM
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49. Well, when even her supporters call her an underDOG, it's to be expected that 'bitch' comes to mind.
:shrug:

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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:19 AM
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2. Don't apologize.
If some can't handle the truth, then to quote Hillarious: "Screw em".
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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3. No apology is necessary. Your feelings are certainly understandable.
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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4. She may, in fact, be a "bitch"....
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:22 AM by sshan2525
but I don't think that, in and of itself, disqualifies one from being president. On her worst day she's still preferable to McSame.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:48 AM
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36. ain't no "may" about it.
IS, always has been, and always will be are the correct verbs to use in regards to a certain person's bitchhood.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM
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5. Very cool
you're a good human being. Heartfelt apologies are the mark of a humble, wise and centered individual.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:22 AM
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6. I've been trying to avoid the 'B' word
but Hillary is making it nearly impossible.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:12 AM
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20. Yes, those who attack women...
Always find a way to blame it on the woman.

And they say sexism is dead.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:22 AM
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8. This is rich! An apology from a pro-Hillary supporter.
:crazy:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:56 AM
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22. Yep - It was really hard standing in the cold for 12 hrs straight on election
day here holding up my Obama sign and making a couple hundred phone
calls begging people to vote for him - when I was really a Clinton
supporter ! :sarcasm:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:09 AM
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25. And we thank for you under cover work.
Oh "the goose flies a dawn" ....
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:13 AM
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27. Well, I must still hold firm, by the HISTORY of your posts, one would think you 100% for HRC.
No, like some folks here who trash Obama with his sig displaying ... not all is as it seems.

I take you at your word ... "as far as I know." :shrug:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:34 AM
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34. Hey, I'm trying to be nice (for a change) but I have no freakin idea
what the hell you are talking about ! Until today, I've never
said one single kind word about Hillary, never.

It is a wee bit early to start drinking, isn't it?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:36 PM
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38. No, I'm sober. It's an trending tentative undercurrent within your posts, but I could be wrong.
If so, then I suggest that sometimes Obama's supporters really don't assist him as a candidate. I know that I certainly qualify at times when I get TOO fired up. :blush:

I hope you have a good day whomever you are rooting for.

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:49 PM
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44. Way to go...publicly eating one of your own
amazing.

Downthread I will be posting a thank you to the OP then probably screaming at tomorrow, because the OP has been consistent in their support for Obama.

Thanks for the peek into bizzaro world...it was rather scary, yet not unexpected.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:55 PM
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46. Oh please, I admitted to having been "wrong" at times: if you feign self-righteousness and above sin
then YOU are a perfect supporter of HRC. :P On the forgoing, I'm certain.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:24 PM
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51. Doesn't change the fact, even your so called apology was less than sincere
suspect posts, undercurrents...ooohhhhh.

Your words in your mea culpa:

" No, I'm sober. It's an trending tentative undercurrent within your posts, but I could be wrong.
If so, then I suggest that sometimes Obama's supporters really don't assist him as a candidate. I know that I certainly qualify at times when I get TOO fired up.

I hope you have a good day whomever you are rooting for. "


And I was not speaking about myself, I was talking to, and about you.....No self righteousness, simple amazement, with a healthy dose of amusement was all that was thrown your way. Oh, and the "pointing out" of the obvious.




:hi:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:31 PM
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54. Yes, if ya haven't noticed not everyone here is "above board" - I could be wrong
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 01:32 PM by ShortnFiery
but unfortunately people who are self-righteous enjoy belittling people THE MOMENT when their behavior is criticized.


Hell, if I didn't know better, I'd think that you're BITTER? ;)
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:40 PM
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55. Just observant
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:44 PM
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58. That's the point, YOU are so desperate to score "Junior High Clique" points that
it is satisfying for you to jump in and self-righteously ATTACK someone because YOU, of course are above being wrong ... just like HRC.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:40 PM
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56. Just observant
Have a good day now!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:45 PM
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59. And to you ...
May Peace Be With You fellow DU Poster. :hi:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:55 PM
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47. *Whispering* ..... good cover!
The turtle eggs hatch at midnight ---- end trans
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:23 AM
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9. We all lose it sometimes.
I lean toward Obama but I never saw Clinton as some kind of crypto-Republican. She'd make an excellent president; as Thom Hartmann points out, she'd probably be a lot better than her husband at the job.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:23 AM
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10. It's understandable
You know good leaders are capable of inspiring. Obama inspires people to try and work together. He inspires hope and the better parts of human nature. Hillary also inspires. She inspires people to act their worse. She inspires anger and bitterness.

In the end, that is probably the most critical difference between the two candidates.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:38 PM
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64. we can see how Obama brings out the best in his
supporters right here at DU GD-P.


after all, if one does not support Obama, one must be an enemy of the party, right?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:23 AM
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11. No need to apologize.
You are a proud Democrat who wants what's best for our party and this country. That...is nothing to apologize for!

:thumbsup:
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nuncvendetta Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:26 AM
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12. No apology necessary
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:26 AM by nuncvendetta
I'd never call her that, but I usually imply it in conversations with family and friends by pointing out her hypocrisy, disingenuous positions, and complete lack of understanding regarding the unworkability of some of her policy positions. so for me, it's one part personality and two parts substance. I'm all for Obama not because of his charisma, but because he's the first candidate in my lifetime who has put together cohesive policy approaches that my trained eye believes are actually workable. THe proof for me is in the pudding, not the buzz or lights or soundbytes or gossip.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:27 AM
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13. I try to save that kind of vittrol for repiggies.
After all they are the real enemy. I agree that Hillary did a good job last night. It didn't change my mind about who I want in the Whitehouse though. Barack was under attack last night so I give him a Mulligan. He has weathered worse and still manages to come out looking very Presidential. I expect him to loose PA by 10 points or less and rap up the nomination afterwards.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:27 AM
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14. Thank you, Laura
:hi:
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:28 AM
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15. Good thread. Recommended.
It's easy to get carried away when arguing.

I don't get offended by people on here, however, even though I can be just as bad as others.

Peace.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:30 AM
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33. I agree DemVet
And I get carried away too. Once the dust clears, we'll gfocus on the real opponent.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:29 AM
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16. Agreed. I've been a little harsh on her my self..
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:32 AM
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17. Why apologize? Hillary was proud of the title when given to her by SNL.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:38 AM by MoJoWorkin
Words can't describe the loathing I have for her, but I will keep it to myself, as it does little good. Donating to Obama every time she ticks me off is a more constructive way to deal with it.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:40 PM
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65. nice job of keeping it to yourself there
about how much you loath HRC.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:37 AM
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18. Well. But. Hmmmm.
That was very nice of you to apologize, but totally unnecessary.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:47 AM
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19. Thank you. Sounds like you are being objective about her
effective performance last night.

"The math" may or may not change, but the "very knowledgeable person with ....a very strong grasp of issues" was certainly there to be seen last night.

Recommended.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:53 AM
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21. Yes. If I only liked and respected her as a person - I'd be happy.
someone on the news mentioned that the other day - it was kind of
an analysis of Mark Penn - and how instead of realizing that
Hillary had a lot of repair work to do to make people like her
more - he steered her instead toward "experience". As a result,
her likeability has eroded even more.

I do think that knowing all she knows illustrates how much
time and effort she must devote to reading and research and
listening. It's a good indicator that she would devote
the same amount of effort to getting things actually
accomplished as well.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:58 AM
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23. I think the fact Hillary is a bitch is a GOOD thing!
The woman does know how to kick someone's ass. She's not my first pick but I won't have any reservations getting behind her to unleash the bitch all over McCain's wrinkly old butt.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:05 AM
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24. Thank you for the apology.
Hillary is just running a campaign, maybe some people think that she just should fold her tent but plenty of her supporters don't want her to do it.

Why? Because we honestly think that she's much more experienced and ready to be president than Obama. She's a policy wonk and truly cares for people. I think that she would be a great president. Obama is a talented man and I would like to have seen him run in the future, just not this year.

This has not been an extremely nasty campaign by most standards, despite what some of you think.

:hi:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:10 AM
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26. I'd only apologize for the word "bitch" were I you. But "jerk" would be appropriate/
I wrote a locked thread, in anger at her decision to amplify Hannity's crap about William Ayers.

I don't apologize.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:18 AM
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28. As I have said I'm on "democratic underground" and I'll do as it says on the tin.
Still, doesn't mean we can't be disappoited in candidates thouhg.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:19 AM
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29. I called her worse things, but only under my breath.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:25 AM
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31. Thank you from an Obama supporter.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:43 PM
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66. nice graphic there
and very true too
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:26 AM
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32. Thank you Laura--I am glad you had the opportunity to listen to the debate last night.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:50 AM
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37. I'm happy you apologized.
Thank you.

You can dislike a person, and even hate them, but nothing is achieved by calling them names. You're better than that. :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:50 PM
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61. What did DU do without you all these years?
:eyes:
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:40 PM
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40. This race and this forum can get tensions high and emotions flaring..
I hope we can all come together after this is over.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:41 PM
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41. .
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 12:42 PM by Bensthename
Sorry double post.. :hi:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:43 PM
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43. If it walks like a _______, and talks like a ______
then maybe it's a _______.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:50 PM
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45. Thanks...really ...not as one supporter of one candidate to another
but on the human being level

:)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:21 PM
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50. i give up on what is politically correct
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6c3a6204d3
Bitch is the New Black from TinaFeyFan






i`m going to fix myself some



and hope this silliness goes away
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:24 PM
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52. I'm offended that you didn't stick to your guns
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:26 PM
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53. Same here
That post didn't offend me.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:49 PM
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60. thanks for this thread. I think it's important to keep the discussion here a bit more civil
and name calling doesn't help - and certainly doesn't make your candidate any more favorable.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:53 PM
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62. I thank you for that.
It's sad that so many of your co-supporters are still totally hate infested. Hate only hurts the people who witness to it.

Anyway, thanks again LPYB. :hug:
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:06 PM
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63. Appreciate your sincere apology and open-mindedness about Hillary. Thank you. nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:46 PM
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67. kudos to you for being an open minded being
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