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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:23 AM
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Hillary Hannity will be really lonely once her New Best Friends on the right wing turn on her.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:32 AM by Armstead
Last night's debate epitomized the worst instincts of the right wing, and the Tabloid MSM.

But what was really sad -- yes sad -- was how Madame Hannity Clinton has decided to jump into bed with them.

She's a real piece of work. And if she were to get the nomination, she'd find herself real lonely once her New Best Friends on the Right Wing turn on her.

I mean really. Flag pins? William Ayers? Rev. Wright?

Do you Hillarybots really think these are good debate questions? You are really happy that the media has chosen to use Sean Hannity to frame its questions?

And you are happy and proud of Hillary for participating in that slime?

I think Obama fought back and held up as well as anyone could under those circumstances. I especially think Obama should be given credit for trying to steer it to more substantial ground.

Hillary's non-answer about Bosnia left her open. But Obama did not drive it further and actually defended her.

So how does Hillary thank him? By tossing out as much Right Wing Mud that she could fit in.



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:25 AM
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1. She's got nothing left.
She is down to RW attacks and "remember the 90s!"
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:29 AM
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2. This path is the path of destruction for her and the Country
Sure the right wing slime welcome her with open arms. Why not, she can be used as a puppet to put down the serious threat to their control of our nation. I am shocked that hillary is so stupid or desperate that she would allow herself to be so readily used by enemies of our great nation.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:33 AM
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4. They will turn on her immediately after the nomination
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:44 AM
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10. Sadly pretty much everyone can see that except hillary and some of
her supporters.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:30 AM
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3. Will Hill become the 'NEW' Joe Momentum?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:35 AM
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6. Clinton/Liebermann as a third party ticket
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:26 AM
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52. McCain / Clinton 08


Hillary will never give up. She will go to the convention and try to subvert the political process and create havoc.

When thats over she jumps ship and joins her good friend McCain.

DLC / RNC forever!:puke:

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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:35 AM
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5. Hillary didn't ask the questions. You folks are in a dream world.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:38 AM
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8. No she just amplified right wing spin
As usual, she chose to echo the right wing.

Why did she choose to amplify the stupid questions about Willaim Ayers? Do you REALLY think she thinks that matters? Noooooooo. She was just doing her part to make Sean Hannity the new kingmaker.

Did she really have to try to link Obama with Louis Farrakhan?

You Hillary supporters are condoning behavior that you you be decrying under normal circumstances.

Look at your girl. She's becoming more of a right wing shill every day.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:41 AM
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9. It's about character. BO's character. No one knows that much about him.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:11 AM
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12. That's a buzzword for character assisination
Trying to make Obama seem sinister and anti-American by p
It does however, reflect on the character of those who try to use it as a smear for political purposes.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:15 AM
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15. Dude, they're in a Catch 22 now. They have nothing to run on
the country hates and distrusts her. EVery attack backfires no matter how many corporate media toadies sign on with her. This thing has been over for a long time and this distorted media creation of a primary is just a grotesque chapter in US politics.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:31 AM
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21. The problem is that we are learning more and more about the
Clintons' characters and much of it is not pretty. It says something when 58% of Democrats in a poll say she is untrustworthy. Now, polls can be skewed and there is a MOE - so say it is only 50%. That is 50% of Democrats. We know that the % of Republicans that think that has always been very high - and the various issues that have driven the number up among Republicans has likely convinced most Republicans who gave her the benefit of the doubt - let's say 90% though. The parties are nearly the same size now. Assume that independents split like the average of the 2 parties - then she is starting the election with about 70% of voters saying she is untrustworthy. (This is with giving her the benefit of the doubt that Democrats are at 50%, not 58%)

So, you say she can improve that. I actually doubt that. She has been well known for 17 years and most Democrats had spent over a decade defending both her and Bill - they were invested in the Clintons being seen as good - and many likely would respond more positively than they felt because we all knew how the numbers would be used. I was never polled but even in 2007 (after she stabbed the politician I most admired in the back) i would have responded "trustworthy" in a real poll. The Democrats who shifted are represented by many on this board, Dkos, etc - people who loved the Clintons and are now disgusted.

Still, we are not the big problem. Given the alternative of John (100 years of war) McCain or HRC, we would vote for her. It is people in the midddle - always vulnerable to the great (undeserved) media support McCain has always been given. The problem is that HRC has been trying to make Obama look unelectable, but in the process, she has rendered herself far less likable than she was - and that was never a HRC strong point.
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:04 PM
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65. We sure know about Hillary's character don't we?
Its fucking despicable. Ask around.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:13 AM
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13. Dream world is a lot more comfortable than the psych ward, HRC headquarters
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:36 AM
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7. hizary is a menacing woman. And like a a desperate criminal
she is becoming reckless and violent because of her despair. Last nights sham is just a preview of what is to come.

The people won't buy it!! hizary falls on her sword of lies and deceitfulness and will go down for the final count.

“shamming insanity to get his tormentors to leave him alone” (John Wain).
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:46 AM
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11. The media and Hillary are not the issue...
The issue is your candidate bombed. The questions are not the point. It's the way he handled himself. Don't place blame on Hillary and media because Obama blew it. He should be able to handle any question thrown at him. Hillary handled the question regarding Bosnia with grace and truthfulness. He did not handle himself well at all. He got frustrated and angry and always has a tendency to place blame on others or call it "politics of the past". That's bullshit. He is not ready.

Hillary supporters are happy to finally see Obama get a taste of the scrutiny she has been dealt each and every day throughout this campaign by the media and the blogosphere. She deals with it. She stands up to the tough questions. She carries on. Obama cannot handle the heat. He is weak.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:16 AM
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16. How exactly did he "bomb"?
Did he lose his temper and say something really stupid? Did he get flummoxed?

Nooooo. He answered calmly and honestly. And managed to toos back at least one of Hillary's mudslinging efforts back at her with his response about the terrorists her husband pardoned.

Sure. He wasn't perky, and he didn't hide his underlying annoyance at the stupidity of the questions and at Hillary's right wing spin. But he kept his cool and didn;t allow them to fluster him.

Nor did he cackle and give back idiotic comments about "how many angels can dance on a pin" like Hillary did earlier when asked a very real question about her associations with the Columbia trade deal.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:28 AM
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20. He did not take command of the situation....
He appeared defensive and angry. Whether or not the questions were stupid in your opinion is not the issue. Hillary was strong. Obama was weak. End of story. Will it damage him? I don't know. We will see.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:17 AM
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17. I am on part 8 or 10 and I don't see a bomb
Sorry I don't see it.

Gibson and Steph's attack on him not only will work for him in public opinion but no one is talking about Hillary and she IS "the product"
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:15 AM
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14. This is the thing that confuses me, totally with you
Somehow, we're just supposed to accept the appearances **all over** right wing media and we're just supposed to accept the insults tossed at Obama supporters. We're supposed to support her after all this bizarre triangulation?

God, I will be elated when we are free of the Clintons forever.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:36 AM
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22. you can vote against her if you want. that's your decision , and Hillary supporters
will not call you a Repug. for doing it.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM
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28. Hillary supporters have no grounds for calling anyone a Republican at this point
After all, your candidate ought to get an honary position on the John McCain Election Committee after the right wing crap she's been engaging in.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:56 AM
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30. Hillary supporters don't demean BO supporters by calling them Re pugs.
you folks are really in a frenzy today. Sorry about your man.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:47 AM
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45. The hell they don't....They follow Hillary's lead who called Edwards that
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:18 AM
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18. She is one low class candidate. Damn, what's that smell?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:20 AM
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19. Next up: Ask Hillary in the next debate about her Lesbian Girlfriend. It's all over the internet.
And you know the Republicans will go after her over that bit of information.

Don't you think she should be "vetted" about this?

It's a helluva closer association (ahem) than something somebody did when Barak was 8 yrs old.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:38 AM
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23. and don't forget about the Sinclair guy they should ask BO about.
If she happened to be lesbian, how does that matter?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:39 AM
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24. So, if we have MORE ADULTERY in ANOTHER Clinton White House to get Impeached over?
you are cool with that?

Thanks for sticking a knife in the Democratic Party, but that's all it's ever been with the Clintons.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:44 AM
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26. no that's not what I mean, do you hate lesbians?
or are you talking about BO and Sinclair?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM
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29. I hate disingenuous liars who use the RW to smear Democrats for their own ambitions.
And besides, are you denying that those rumors exist?

If they do exist, shouldn't we "clear the air" NOW, before the GOP brings it out on a televised debate like last night?

You know, vetting Hillary about her "association" with Huma?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:57 AM
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31. fine with me, and do the same with the Sinclair acts also.
Those rumors are everywhere too.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:04 AM
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32. Yeah, except they've been debunked & the crazy criminal recanted his story.
Obama had never even laid eyes on the guy, and the guy finally admitted to making the entire thing up for money.

But anyway, do you REALLY think the GOP will NOT ask Hillary about her "right hand girl"?

This woman has been her constant companion since 1996 - trust me, they'll wait until she's in a nationally televised debate like last night and pop the question just then.

Should we not be prepared for this?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:06 AM
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33. can't prove it by me and a lot of folk.
and do you think the Sinclair in not on the right wing radar? Look what they did to J. Kerry and Gore.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:15 AM
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34. Can't prove what? That there have been questions about her "relationship" for over 10 yrs?
That it has openly been talked about by James Carville, the New York Observer, the DOJ, the Village Voice, etc?

When do you think the most opportune time will be for the GOP to nail her with it?

In the middle of a televised debate as part of "vetting" her as a candidate?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:20 AM
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35. I think when they ask BO about Sinclair, it will be fair to ask Hillary.
you sure are dragging the bottom of the pond today aren't you? That debate really got you down there. What will you do when he is beaten?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:24 AM
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36. Sorry, it's a legitimate "vetting" of her 10+ yr "relationship" w/her closest "aide".
The mentally ill person you mention has never met Barak Obama and has since recanted his story, admitting he was looking for money.

Meanwhile, Huma has been Hillary's "closest personal aide" for 12 yrs, lives in her house, is frequently mentioned in the press and refuses all interviews.

When is the GOP going to ask her about those allegations?

And shouldn't we be prepared?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:29 AM
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37. I'm prepared are You prepared for Sinclair?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:33 AM
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39. So, what exactly IS Hillary's answer regarding Huma? So far, she refuses comment.
And Huma refuses all interviews, even after comments from Oscar de la Renta and James Carville.

Just making sure we all have our stories straight about our potential candidate.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:35 AM
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40. You are totally obsess with sex today aren't you. You need to get
a grip.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:38 AM
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41. Just trying to "vet" our candidates "associations" before Hannity does on TV.
So, what the fuck is her answer to all the questions about her mysterious live-in "aide"?

I mean, what is the "official story" that we should all have handy and ready to go when the GOP references the PLETHORA of material on this during a televised debate like Hillary's aide, George S did last night?

Nobody wants to get caught off guard when they ask her about her female companion for the last 12 years.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:32 AM
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54. I can hear it now...."Bong. A Fox News Campaign Alert....New Questions Raised: Is Hillary Gay?"
If Hillary thinks Hannity is above that, she's in for a big disappointment.

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:41 AM
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58. It would probably be: "Who is Hillary's mysterious right hand girl, Huma Abedin?"
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 11:43 AM by Justitia
"At Fox News, all we know about this closest personal advisor to Sen Clinton is that she is a Muslim and has lived with Hillary Clinton since 1996. Although she is widely known to be incredibly beautiful."

Yeah, something along those lines for sure. And then the bullshit question comes during a televised debate:

"Sen Clinton, how do you answer those rumors about your relationship with your longtime aide Huma Abedin - the ones that have been mentioned in The Village Voice, The New York Observer, The Times of London, etc., etc. In fact, it has been alleged that the LA Times has been sitting on this story, waiting to break it at just the right time."

We should be ready for that, definitely.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:43 AM
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25. I'm beginning to thin that would be fair game
After all she wants us to "compare and contrast" and ask valid questions, no matter how phony or misleading.

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:44 AM
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27. Well, the republicans will be all over it & Hillary seems to think we should get this all out there.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:52 AM
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50. Yes, Obama ought to throw all of the foreign businessmen with shady connections at her too
As well as digging into what she has said and the venues of her fundraising events....And reiterating the connections between her husband and her campaign manager with Colombia, etc. etc.

If she wants "vetting" she'd better be prepared for what would come out if they turned the microscope on her in the same way.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:31 AM
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38. they are salivating as we speak...
they WILL eat her alive...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:40 AM
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42. She can always ask Obama since they went from singing his praises to throwing feces.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:34 AM
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55. "They" You mean the MSM that called her the inevitable nominee for so long?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:41 AM
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59. Right up until Iowa, then they turned on her.
Obama has enjoyed more positive continuous coverage than any candidate in recent memory.

Even during the period we agree the MSM had annointed Hillary, he enjoyed far more favorable press coverage (http://www.journalism.org/node/8187)

But MSM giveth and they taketh away.

Hillary was still standing after they pulled the rug out from under her.

We shall see if Obama does the same(I think he will).
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:54 AM
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60. I can;t argue with you because of your last line
That's a fair enough question. And I appreciate the honesty of your self-answer.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:41 AM
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43. Tell that to Barack Reagan and his friends Harry and Louise. nt
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:49 AM
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48. Barack Reagan? You deny that the GOP was politically successful for three decades?
Typical to misconstrue Obama's remarks about Reagan.

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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:45 AM
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44. They're using her for their own ends
It's an alliance of convenience. Don't think for one second that they won't immediately turn on her, if she somehow manages to steal the nomination.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:48 AM
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46. Sounds like they had a few good jokes about her at the press dinner
they attended last night. She's turned into a Bosnia/booze joke.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:49 AM
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47. Maybe she'll switch parties.

Dateline 1968, Republican National Convention, Nelson Rockefeller campaign staffer Hillary Rodham is treated rudely by overzealous supporters of the winning candidate. In a year that started off with the Tet Offensive and went on to see the assassinations of MLK and RFK by rightwing nutjobs, Hillary Rodham decides to change parties because some of the Republican nominee's supporters were rude to her.

Dateline 2008, Democratic National Convention, presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is treated rudely by overzealous supporters of the winning candidate....


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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:50 AM
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49. K & R
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:53 AM
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51. No...hon, Barack OBama fit in all the Rev Wright *he* could...TWENTY YEARS worth.
and it is NOT going to go away whether you blame Hillary or not.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:30 AM
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53. It's been going away, in case you haven;t noticed
It's already a fading issue.

If McCain tried to resurrect it, the only people who will care in the General Election are those who would never vote for Obama or Hillary in the first place.

So why did Hillary Hannity feel the need to link Obama with Louis Farrahkan and Hamas needlessly?

Ask yourself that question honestly. Can you really justify beating a dead hores as "vetting" or character?

Face it. She is desperate, and in her desperation she is using anything she can get her fingers on - Even if it means helping to push right-wing memes against the whole Democratic Party.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:57 PM
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66. No it's not. It hasn't even COME UP yet.
Hon, Joe Sixpack is NOT paying attention to ANY of this shit right now. You think rev wright is dead? pa-LEEEEESE.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:35 AM
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56. Hillary's friends on the right.
Were you born in 2001? Haha, this is ridiculous.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:55 AM
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61. I said NEW Best Friends
When he and Sean Hannity are sharing material.....well you can figure out the rest.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:36 AM
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57. Nah, she and Bill will continue to reap the rewards for playing along...
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:57 AM
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62. President McCain will reward them with the Ambassadorship to the Cayman Islands
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 11:58 AM by Armstead
That way they can enjoy the climate and be near their money.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:58 AM
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63. Hillary Hannity. That's funny!
LOL!
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:00 PM
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64. She'll be fine. She will probably get to be the keynote speaker at the Republican convention.
And Traitor Joe will be pissed.
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