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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:26 PM
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Still don't think HRC should drop out? Read this.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/17/20080417yahoopoll17-on.html


Partly thanks to an increasingly likable image, the Republican presidential candidate has pulled even with the two Democrats still brawling for their party's nomination, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo news poll released Thursday. Just five months ago - before either party had winnowed its field - the survey showed people preferred sending an unnamed Democrat over a Republican to the White House by 13 percentage points.

Of those who have moved toward McCain, about two-thirds voted for President Bush in 2004 but are now unhappy with him, including many independents who lean Republican. The remaining one-third usually support Democrats but like McCain anyway.

Also helping the Arizona senator close the gap: Peoples' opinions of Hillary Rodham Clinton have soured slightly, while their views of Barack Obama have improved though less impressively than McCain's.

The survey suggests that those switching to McCain are largely attuned to his personal qualities and McCain may be benefiting as the two Democrats snipe at each other during their prolonged nomination fight.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:30 PM
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1. BO should drop out. He is unelectable. God he was so embarrassing last night
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:37 PM
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:39 PM
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5. Are you? Did you like his performance?
He looked B.A.D.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:47 PM
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11. um, not to the tthree more SDs who endorsed him.
He's had 6 SD endorsements to poor hillary's... 0, in the last week. You are predisposed to thinking he looked bad. Others aren't looking through your lens. She's toast. And last night did shit for her doomed campaign.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:00 PM
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21. Why were exploding heads here last night screeching at ABC?
This is and the rest are through your lenses: "And last night did shit for her doomed campaign."

It aint over til it's over.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:20 PM
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30. because people overreacted, just as hillary fans did when she
was treated unfairly. I was fine with things because I think this is all good for Obama. And yeah, it's very close to over. I notice you avoided dealing with the SD issue. Let's review: Obama has recevied over 75 SD endorsements since Feb. Hillary is down 3.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:25 PM
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31. "It aint over til it's over. "
Um, news flash: It IS over!

Sheesh, why weren't you Hillarites this committed to holding war criminals responsible for their actions?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:57 PM
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19. On my computer, he/she has terminal Ignore.
It's more peaceful that way.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:41 PM
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6. The stupidity of Hillary's campaign
She says Obama is unelectable.

She is getting beat by Obama.

So she says we should support her
because she is the stronger candidate.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:43 PM
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8. Let me think - the guy's ahead in every way
and the Hillaryites think he should drop out or accept her gracious offer of the vice presidency? Who does your thinking for you? Hannity?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:05 PM
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23. He's not the nominee is he? No.
Does he have enough delegates to be nominee? No.

Who does your thinking for you? Rush?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:48 PM
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35. Hillary is ripping this party apart with her scorched earth politics
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:50 PM by rurallib
and the only beneficiary is McCain.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:14 PM
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37. And here elite boss' that wanted her but have to settle for McCain!
Thats why I think she will stay until the end and run the nastiest campaign attacks on Obama she can so the elite can have their second choice, McCain. Yes, it would have been better for the elite if Clinton the inevitable would have won because then Americans would relax and stop focusing on whats happening to our country and our lives, you know, a democrat in the white house means everything is ok, we can go back to sleep now. :sarcasm:


The media better do a better job at trashing Obama and praising McCain because if they don't fool the American public, our government may just have to pull some kind of JFK all over again.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:46 PM
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10. agreed.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:47 PM
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12. you must be missing a few cogs. mccain's likeability is a myth that
will fall when people turn toward the election. You are embarrassing yourself. again.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:38 PM
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34. Last night BO was the embarrassment. Stutter, yammer, hee haws
What a pathetic and ridiculous display

He is as clueless and stupid sounding as Bush, but so many Americans like dummies who are just like them......:dunce:..... :shrug:
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:03 PM
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22. Not according to Hillary...
Yes Yes Yes
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:31 PM
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2. yep
But it will only take a couple months for McCain's popularity to fall right back down there where it belongs. Once she steps down. WAKE UP HILLARY!!! Sacrificing 4 years to a McPain win (so you could run in 2012) would be more than a travesty. Very sick imo
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:36 PM
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3. I hope you're right.
The longer Dems fight each other, the more time McSame has to solidify his support.

This has to end soon.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:55 PM
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17. Then why are the primaries set up to go through June?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:00 PM
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20. That may be something that needs to change.
Not too many years ago more candidates stayed in the race and it took longer to decide.
In a year like this, with the Rep nominee decided long ago, it only hurts our sides chances.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:26 PM
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32. Because actual campaigning doesn't begin, traditionally,
until after Labor Day. People used to be assumed to be on vacation during the summer and too busy to pay attention to politics. That dynamic is pretty much gone because of the degree of media saturation we now have--most people are plugged into something all the time, even if it isn't necessarily news media.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:41 PM
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7. HRC should drop out
Aside from being unelectable, she's become a fucking embarrassment.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:46 PM
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9. If he hems and haws like he did last evening
in any debate against McCain, he loses the G/E. I was not comfortable with his performance last evening.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:48 PM
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13. you have to be kidding, right? Have you ever seen mccain?
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:50 PM
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16. Yup, the only reason McCain is the nominee is because it is "his time"
We put our candidates to higher standards. Thus the reason Obama is winning.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:48 PM
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14. After getting personally attacked from the GOP/Hillary and mods for an hour..
What did you expect. HE still outperformed her. Her biggest points were talking about her husbands work.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:48 PM
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15. I'm fine with her in. Wall-to-wall news about DEMOCRATS for a change....
... And good practice for Obama, and shortening the season for the republicans.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:56 PM
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18. The problem is that it isn't relevent news.
It's about what someone did 40 years ago when a candidate was a child.

It's about flag pins, and church pastors.

It's about cookies and sniper fire.


By contrast, McSame is looking like statesman because no one
is focusing on any bad news about his past or any of his present day gaffes.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:09 PM
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25. Better than wall-to-wall "republicans are soooo manly!"
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:14 PM
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27. That's happening by default.
One benefit that I'm experiencing by having the focus on the Dems is less of the chimp on tv.
Every day that goes by where I don't have to see or hear that idiot is a good day.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:13 PM
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26. No such thing as "bad publicity?"
I disagree. We're not doing ourselves any favor.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:07 PM
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24. Of course not. Ask Obama to drop out.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:16 PM
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28. It's only because McStain's in the background right now.
His "independent" "hero" veneer is pretty thin and will rub off easily once Obama secures the nom.

:kick:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:19 PM
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29. I don't feel any panic about this but I am concerned.
If this process goes on too long the Dems could be damaged and the news media won't lift a finger to help. It's obvious from the debate last night that they want McSame and the status quo.

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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:03 PM
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33. I read it and I still don't think she should drop out.
If she decides to do so, I will respect her decision. If she stays in until the end, I will respect that decision as well. It is her decision to make, not mine or yours.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:50 PM
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36. If our party LEADERSHIP doesn't show some moral courage and yank
HRC's self-righteous bony a** out of her losing race, I'm holding THEM equally accountable if Obama loses in November. :grr:
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