Dear Senator Clinton: You've LOST.

[Barrymores Ghost]

Now, maybe you should kindly slink on back to your Senate office, where you can push to expand and cast your vote in support of the Iraq occupation and all of those criminal free trade agreements that you purport to oppose.

[StevieM]

1. She loses when Obama locks up a majority of the delegates and not before

People who complain that it is over are just worried that it isn't over.

Steve

[Writer]

3. If they weren't as scared as I think they are, I don't think we'd see much from them at all.

Perhaps more threads on McCain, but otherwise I don't think they'd pay much attention to Clinton.

[StevieM]

4. Yeah, but I think that Hillary messed up in the debate when she didn't respond to his acting like

he was appalled by negative campaigning. She should have highlighted to the voters how dishonest this claim was by pointing out what he had done. Like telling voters "she wants to use race to divide and scare us."

Steve

[Barrymores Ghost]

10. Yeah, I see you said that in another post here today...

...and I still haven't seen a source credit that shows he stated this about Clinton.

Clock is ticking...

[Writer]

14. That's true, although I think she cleaned house overall.

He stands before this crowd in NC this morning acting like he's above this, while his campaign staff sends press releases underscoring every little misstep - regardless of how petty - from the Clinton campaign.

Ick.

[Spider Jerusalem]

9. Scared? Not at all.

Hillary hasn't got the slightest chance of winning. Her polling negatives are over 55%. 60% of the public thinks she's a liar and untrustworthy. With numbers like those, you should be scared of her actually getting the nomination. You DO want McCain to lose, don't you?

[Barrymores Ghost]

5. What do you plan to cling to when this fantasy of yours is over?

She's toast, and she knows it...so she's bloodying Obama up for the benefit of Rove and the other GOP attack dogs, and prepping for her next (doomed-to-fail) run at it in 2012...when (if things work out well for her) McCain will be in an electric wheelchair, drooling down his shirtfront and screaming at the roses out in the White House back yard. Because she knows that she will stand about a snowball's chance in a blast furnace against Barack Obama, the sitting POTUS.

Obama's won the nomination. It just hasn't been announced yet. There isn't a f*cking chance on Earth that the Party will hand the ticket to someone who has willingly lied and shilled for the GOP opposition in the course of her campaign. She, and you, should be f*cking ashamed. But she has no shame, and you have no clue.

[rucky]

25. In the meantime, we all lose our advantage over McCain.

[RazBerryBeret]

2. nah, I want her to keep running...

When this is over I don't want there to be any doubt in anyone's mind.

[cliffordu]

6. Yep - and when she finally drops I want it to cost her that Senate seat.

[Stephanie]

11. We'll be working on that in NY, have no doubt.

As soon as we get Barack in the WH it's on to finding the next DEMOCRATIC Senator from New York. It will be nice if they are FROM New York, too.

[shadowknows69]

18. With you 100% on that

[Barrymores Ghost]

12. I expect her to pull a Joezell Liebermiller the day Obama has the nomination. n/t

[Justitia]

13. I second that. She's divisive and corrosive. Let's give that seat to a real Dem. -eom

[DangerDave921]

24. Hey -

She paid good money for that senate seat. :)

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Yep, 40% Of Americans Still View Her As Trustworthy

She can cut that number in half, easy.

[RazBerryBeret]

23. yeah...just give her a few more weeks.

n/t

[YOY]

8. According to her followers it's not over until she walks away with half of the Deocratic party

Of course we're losing those "Reagan Democrats" but gaining a shitload of "Obama Republicans"...

[4themind]

15. Mace:"The oppresion of the clintons will NEVER return!"

YOU have LOST (ok not oppression, but it's a way to fit one of my fave movie quotes, lol)

[SoCalDem]

16. She is

[zulchzulu]

17. Add: BADLY

Not only did she lose, but she took the race down to the depths of political slime that is historically unprecedented.

Nowhere has a presidential candidate stoop as low as to try to make an issue of her opponent's kindergarten paper. The dozens of lies and endorsement of the Democratic Party's opponent in the General Election perhaps done by some presidential candidate before, but the level of despicable discourse to actually decide to bring up a document that someone perhaps authored when they were 6 years old is Classic Clinton.

[Barrymores Ghost]

20. What frightens me the most....

...is that her supporters are starting to sound like Bush apologists.

Just like the fucking 28%'ers.

She could bite the head off of a fucking week-old kitten and squat over a photo of Mother Teresa, and they'd call her an animal rights activist with a deep and abiding respect for the Catholic Church.

[zulchzulu]

26. You've got that right n/t

[AtomicKitten]

19. "It's over. Go home."

[Rageneau]

21. When will Obama's supporters realize that Hillary doesn't pay a bit of attention to them?

So it's pointless for them to write her 'open' letters offering advice she neither wants nor values nor pays any attention to.

Instead of addressing letters to her, perhaps Obama's supporters ought to write open letters to themselves, or to each other, such as: "Dear Fellow Obama Thrall, Boy, that damn Hillary sure sucks, doesn't she? Boy, she really ought to drop out, shouldn't she? Yeah. that's what I think, too. She sure sucks, doesn't she? Yeah."

At least letters like that would get read by the addressee.

[mcctatas]

22. What's that you say?

The "princess of peace" and "goddess of victory" doesn't value the opinions of those who have different beliefs, values, visions of the future? I'm shocked, simply shocked! :eyes:

[Barrymores Ghost]

27. And, apparently, by some chumming trolls...

..using some weak-ass bait.

:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

28. That's how she would be as president as well......

If the American people were to ever have something to say to her,
your response is dead on
...."offering advice she neither wants nor values nor pays any attention to."

Got it! :thumbsdown:

Now you really know why most of us don't want her as President.

[ima_sinnic]

31. are Hillary supporters really so stupid, they think ignoring We The People is a good thing?

what makes Hillary's supporters think she pays a bit of attention to what they think, either? You think she either "wants or values or pays attention to" your petty little concerns either?
If you're not some fat-cat CEO like Rupert Murdoch or Richard Mellon Scaife, you can go suck donkey balls, is her opinion of you. Her main priority is to protect BushCo and the corporatists at any cost, but in the guise of a "democrat."

If you like Lieberman and Zell Miller, you've gotta love HRC, the "republican democrat."

[gear_head]

29. national convention Q. old-style roll call, or something else?

for voting for nominee

[Two Americas]

30. no confidence there

If people posting these "she is done" and "she should quit" posts were truly confident in what they are saying, they wouldn't need to moronically repeat it every few minutes, starting endless threads saying the same simplistic thing over and over again. That smacks of people who are hoping to make their statements true by repeating them enough or by SHOUTING at the rest of us and attacking people.

If I am watching a basketball game - and that is the level of sophistication of 90% of the posts about the primaries - and my team really were winning and I were confident in the team, I would not start yelling for the other team to quit, would I? What if a team got a few points ahead and time was running down, and all of the players started jeering and ridiculing the other team and demanding that they quit? Would that represent confidence?

If Clinton does not have a chance, why all of the frantic posts yelling at us (as though any of us have anything to do with it) that she should quit? If Clinton does have a chance, then why all of the posts.....oh, I get it - people calling for her to quit think she does have a chance, they just don't want that to be true. Cognitive dissonance in action here, perchance?

[SunsetDreams]

32. wrong we actually care more about the dem party that she is dividing

If a candidate spends their time dividing the party, they don't deserve the nomination.

She is behind, can't catch up, instead she spends her time dividing us. No we are not worried about her having a chance for the nomination, we are worried about our party.

[Two Americas]

33. "deserve"

Your use of the word "deserve" illustrates the weakness of the party, a weakness that existed before Clinton became a candidate. We are not bestowing an honor on a person by voting for them, and talking about whether or not they "deserve" it is absurd. Can we really imagine running a campaign where the goal is to convince the public that someone "deserves" the presidency? That is never going to happen.

Using Clinton as a scape goat for all that is wrong with the party is merely the latest way to avoid and deny the problems with the party.

If, as many Obama supporters say, Clinton is "old school" - the old politics of the past - and if, as you say, there was not a pre-existing divide in the party, then it is illogical to assert that Clinton's campaign is the cause of the divide, isn't it?