Clinton dismisses Obama’s critique of this week’s debate questions.

[MethuenProgressive]

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/18/clinton-%e2%80%9cwhen-the-going-gets-tough-you-can%e2%80%99t-run-away%e2%80%9d/

Q: Obviously, the war in Iraq is one of so many issues that you dealt with at the debate Wednesday night. I want to get your thoughts on this, we talked about it yesterday, its on the front of so many papers, I’ll show you this one, it’s the Philadelphia Tribune, it says ‘viewers upset with ABC debate’, it’s got Barack Obama’s picture right there on the right. Yesterday he was saying for 40 minutes or so it was all about who said what and who did this, and you really didn’t get to the key issues until almost the second hour of the debate. What did you think about the debate on Wednesday night?

HRC: We were both asked some pretty tough questions and that’s part of what happens in a debate and in a campaign. And I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked. Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House. In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can’t walk away because we’re going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make. I think we need a president who can take whatever comes your way. You have to stand strong; you have to fight for the American people – because it will not be easy to stand up against the special interests.

Q: So you were fine with the debate, did you see any problem with it?

HRC: Well, can I say that I’ve been through, what 23 of these debates? And as I recall, I was asked some pretty tough questions in nearly every one of them. That goes with the territory, having been inside the White House, I know the pressures inside the White House, I know how hard it is every single day. When the going gets tough you can’t run away. And it’s going to be tough going to deal with these hard problems; getting out of Iraq in the right way, turning the economy around, getting universal health care, ending our dependence on foreign oil. The special interests are going to be a lot tougher than 90 minutes of questions from two journalists and we need a president who is going to be up there fighting everyday for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are.

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Hillary: WHY DO I ALWAYS GET THE FIRST QUESTION?!?!?!?

[gabeana]

2. All she has done is complain

and the op and other like it have called out sexist, remember when she flubbed her illegal driver license issue by talking out of both sides of her mouth, the "boys" are ganging up on me. thats just one there are many more. She is a hypocrite

[rodeodance]

18. all Oba ma did Thrus was cry like a baby.

[barb162]

22. That's what he does every day.

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[barb162]

71. OBAMA lies. Get it straight.

[dionysus]

76. "i know you are but what am i" is what you guys are reduced to.

bwahhhhhh.... rofl

[otohara]

53. Forgot About This Hilarious

line. Thanks for the reminder.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

87. Yep, I remember that.

[Occam Bandage]

3. So we go from "why do I get the first question; give him a pillow" to "It goes with the territory."

[hisownpetard]

7. Every day, she says something that reinforces, a hundred times over, my decision to NOT vote for her

She just gets lower and lower in my eyes.

[barb162]

25. Funny, that's exactly how I feel about Obama with his whining and arrogance.

[hisownpetard]

36. To each his (or her) own!

[Austinitis]

4. Awesome.

nt

[rocktivity]

5. You were suspiciously well-prepared, Hillary

Did your husband's former employee "Gorgeous" George Stephanopulos director slip you a "cheat sheet?" And if you DO manage to win, don't you know that he's going to stomp you twice as hard as you would Obama.

:headbang:
rocknation

[hisownpetard]

8. I completely agree. When Stephanopoulos came out with his dumb-as-dirt questions,

Hillary just slid seamlessly into what seemed to be her prepared remarks.
She knew what was coming.
And, btw, wasn't it Hillary who was begging for that debate to happen?

[susankh4]

28. That is because they think alike.

Anyone who can observe well knows what kinds of questions will be asked of our candidates as they enter the G.E. But, noone knows it better than George or Hillary.

[rodeodance]

10. hey Karl. nice distraction.

[dionysus]

19. exceedingly weak, even from you...

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

16. It was foolish of Obama to be arrogant to think the media would not ask him

tough questions.

Hillary has been though it. She was not fooled like Obama was.

[bigtree]

45. that's really pathetic of you to suggest that.

Is your candidate really that weak that he needs this paternal defense? I thought he did fine, but from the tone of his supporters and from the tone of the campaign, it seems like y'all think he screwed up. I agree that Hillary Clinton was well-prepared, but the suggestion that she cheated is the dirtiest of politics, presented without any proof at all. All of this griping seems strange coming from folks who want to convince us that their man's candidacy is ahead and inevitable.

[Straight Shooter]

67. This is the new talking point, that Hillary was given the questions beforehand.

I've heard some whiney excuses why Obama isn't responsible for one thing or another, but this tops it all.

Obama. was. not. prepared.

[rocktivity]

81. It was just a simple and perfectly plausible question--too tough for you?

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[stray cat]

6. Does that mea n Hillary thought ABC debate questions were substantive and important?

[rodeodance]

11. you missed the point: It is stop whining like a kid.

[bowens43]

15. yes because striking out and attacking like a spolied child

is so much better.......

LOL!

[dionysus]

23. when did he do that? why can't you stop lying?

[ima_sinnic]

69. no, instead of whining, cackle defensively and ask "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

loser.

[rodeodance]

9. obama did cry like a baby --oh that nasty media is picking on me!! what a whimp!

[scheming daemons]

14. "Why do I always get asked the first question?" "Even SNL can see that the debates aren't fair"

Sorry.... Clintonistas have no grounds to talk about another candidate complaining about debates.

[dionysus]

21. Shillbot manual page 105; when losing, just make shit up randomly...

:rofl:

[not_too_L8]

34. Didn't here him cry, heard him making fun of Clinton and her ABC shills

[Quixote1818]

37. Hillary has screamed "It's not fair" a million times.

Her and Bill CONSTANTLY cry like baby's yet now you focus on Obama pointing out the the questions had no substance? Give me a fucking break.

[barb162]

73. Obama really bombed and some around here can't face it.

[rodeodance]

12. Thanks for the post

[MethuenProgressive]

29. As you can see, she is not "attacking black fathers" as some have said.

It's been an odd morning on DU.

[bowens43]

13. She drives another nail into her own political coffin.....

the woman just doesn't get it....thank the gods and godesses she will never be president.

[redqueen]

24. Yup... she acts like the voters should just accept this clowning.

Heh... got news for ya Hillary... not this time!

[Egnever]

17. Clinton can bite my ass

worthless power hungry lying corporate suck up deadbeat!

I hope she gets beat in her bid for governor and is thrown on the trash pile of old bought politicians.

My dislike of her is quickly rising to bushlike levels.

[barb162]

20. I bet Clinton wouldn't want to do that.

EW

[ScarletSniper]

27. Best thing to look forward to is Hillary losing..I can't wait.

[Egnever]

35. Me either I think I might throw a party

[ScarletSniper]

51. A huge block party!!!!

[barb162]

30. "he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked"

That's my Obama: whine, whine, whine. The guy should grow the fuck up already.

[dionysus]

40. so now you guys just lie through your teeth with impugnity?

[barb162]

42. Niow that's a very good billboard for Obama ,but take out the last word

[dionysus]

61. is that ALL you guys have left?

pathetic.

[barb162]

65. There's a lot more left for starters: HRC will win PA next week.

Pathetic for Obama and "you guys"

[ima_sinnic]

68. bookmarked. IF she wins, it won't be by much--it will be like, so what?

even IF she wins, she still won't get the delegates, the popular support, or the delegate/superdelegate support she's so pathetically begging for. She's been bleeding superdelegates for some time now. They aren't going to back a back-stabbing LOSER who said McCain was a better candidate than the Democrat, the mean-spirited LIAR who's running a Karl Rove-type campaign. So sorry, boo hoo. The People just don't like her. end of story.

[dionysus]

70. they seem to be oblivious of that math\reality thing...

[futureliveshere]

31. OMG!! She has LOST the entire point of the argument BO was making

It was NOT the so-called tough questions he was 'bitter' about. It was the pointless nature of the questions. In previous presidential elections this might have been ok, but this time there are substantial issues for which we MUST know what the candidates think about them. THATS WHAT IS IMPORTANT, not flag-pins, boznia-gate, bitter-gate or all other gates.

[Beacool]

32. Obama folded like a lawn chair!!

In how many debates was Hillary pummeled by the moderators and the other candidates? In plenty of them if I recall correctly.

The questions may not have been substantive, but they go into the character of both candidates and into people's perceptions of them. The president needs to be the Number One cheerleader of the nation and some people (rightly or not) question Obama's patriotism.

I have knocked on enough doors in PA to not be surprised by anyone's comments: he's a Muslim, he's a racist, how could he stay for 20 years in that church, and last weekend "bittergate" was the gift that kept on giving. Oh, and the many unsolicited comments from people who said that if it's not Hillary, then for them it's McCain. We'll see what I hear this weekend.

[otohara]

55. Doesn't Matter

He's still ahead.

Sad to hear so many people in PA still going along with Fox News fabrications about one of our candidates. Did you set them straight or not?

[Beacool]

77. Nope, except to say that he's not a Muslim.

We just let them talk and ask for their support, though we never speak against him. Some people just wanted to let us know how angry they are about whatever issues concern them. Last weekend it was all about the "bitter" remarks. People were walking into our campaign offices in Reading and Allentown just to vent their anger.

Who knows what the issue will be this weekend. I'll be traveling there tonight after work.

[ima_sinnic]

66. and what did Hillary do earlier when asked about conflict of interest w Uribe in Colombia?

at least I didn't hear Obama cackling like a crazy old lady off her meds and ask in return, "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

gee, that's real "presidential." Why can't she answer that simple question? What a fucking phony.
The sooner she is history, the happier I'll be, and she can take her moronic fake "Democratic" dittohead goon squad lemmings with her.

[Beacool]

80. The last sentence is what's wrong with some of you Obama supporters.

The same arrogance expressed by your leader. You can't win the presidency without our votes, and right now 32% of Hillary supporters say that he's not getting them.

[ima_sinnic]

83. hillary "supporters" think they can hold their votes as ransom

oooh, I'll show you, I won't vote for the Democrat--waaaah waah--because Hillary didn't win, and everybody who's voting for Obama is just so mean and arrogant.

whatever--you people are as fake as the candidate you say you're supporting. Now run along, I think Limpballs is on the air now, you might miss the latest talking point.

oh, and you still didn't answer about Hillary's conflict of interest with Uribe. But you couldn't care less about that. All you people care about is stirring up trouble, driving a wedge in the Democratic Party. Baseless bullshit about "arrogance" is all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[whatchamacallit]

33. Hillary didn't mind it because, like Obama said, she's a product of our broken political system

She grew up in the politics of personal destruction, and like an adult who was abused as a child she's now ready to pass the hurt along. That and the fact that the whole debate seemed to favor her from the start.

[livetohike]

38. With the Clintons, everything is a fight

It's only a fight if two people play. There is more important work to be done.

[Bensthename]

39. Her arrogance like this has cost her the nomination. Good ideas but too arrogant.

She can not answer a simple question with out sounding like a .....

[barb162]

43. He's the one strutting around like a peacock, not Clinton

[Bensthename]

47. When you are the winner you have a right to strut.. What is Hillary's excuse

like a whiny little kid all the time?

[barb162]

64. He has a right to be arrogant? He won't win the GE if he gets that far

[MethuenProgressive]

41. Clinton debate strategy: Answer questions. Obama's: Cry like a baby about mean ol' ABC.

With more experience, BO might start doing better with Axlerod's teleprompter off.

[barb162]

44. He's a sorry excuse for a candidate.

He sounds like a whiny little brat.

[Quixote1818]

52. Hillary and Bill cry like baby's at the drop of a hat

All we ever hear from both of them is how unfair things have been to them. Obama along with half the country and even Clinton supporter Ed Rendell criticize the stupidity of the questions and Hillary supporters act like they were brilliant? Give me a fucking break.

[Occam Bandage]

57. Only one candidate's actually cried about how tough it is, MP.

The one Richardson didn't endorse.

[ima_sinnic]

62. why doesn't she answer the question about double-dealing w Uribe instead of cackling?

because she's a corrupt, hackneyed politician who will do anything for money (and what do we call that, boys and girls?). She's the one who can't answer that SIMPLE question, moron.

[Quixote1818]

46. Exactly why Clinton is losing. She is completely out of touch with Democrats

nt

[Bensthename]

48. She thinks elementary school yard tattle telling is her key to winning. The people

have given her the bird on that plan.

[dana_b]

49. man, can she spin stuff.

You mean in the White House he's going to get bombarded with questions about Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezco, etc? I don't think the really tough issues (Iraq, the economy, etc.) are the problem, Hillary. It's the STUPID questions that distract and detract from the real issues! That debate was a farce and 75% of the country could see that.

[indimuse]

50. Spot on Hillary!

Obama is weak...BIG FAIL!

[BlooInBloo]

54. Shorter Cliton: Anti-Democrat bias is FINE as long as it's not focussed on me.

[MethuenProgressive]

59. Obama is the Anti-Democrat. He's invented the Obamacrat Party.

That's the real Change.

[Mz Pip]

56. They weren't "tough' questions.

They were stupid questions.

Kind of like the "When did you stop beating your wife?" variety of stupid questions.

Obama gets criticized for appearing frustrated or giving less than inspirational answers but how can anyone be expected to take these really dumb questions and do much of anything with them?

Honestly, how would ano of us answer the question "Are you more patriotic then Rev. Wright" or whatever that dumb question was. OR the flag pin nonsense. Maybe Obama could have pointed to Hillary's lack of flag pin and retort "Why don't you ask her?"

[ima_sinnic]

58. "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeQ6dxGMFA

It is often a measure of Hillary Clinton's discomfort when she smiles broadly and lets loose with her deep, often-mocked belly laugh. So it was at a press conference at the Pittsburgh airport this afternoon, when a CNN producer asked Clinton whether the fact that her husband had earned $800,000 for speeches designed to boost the free trade deal with Colombia - a deal that she opposes (she even demoted her controversial chief strategist Mark Penn for advocating same) constituted a conflict of interest? After all, those earnings may have comprised a part of the $5 million Clinton loaned her campaign in February. First, Clinton giggled. Then she laughed. She waved her arms in the air. Then came an "Oh my." More laughter. A few eye rolls and head shakes. Then this: "I mean, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

Is this how Hillary would answer questions in a debate with McCain?

You Hillary worshippers are morons. You're mocking Obama because he "couldn't answer the tough questions"--what "tough questions" were those? Why he doesn't wear a flag pin?

If you had half a brain, you'd be dangerous. Why doesn't Hillary, the phony lying ASSHOLE, answer the SIMPLE question of whether she's (essentially) double dipping with Uribe, the fascist chainsaw murderer of Colombia?

Talk about "folding up like a lawn chair"--all she can do is cackle like a damn bag lady off her meds at a question like that. Your stupid "candidate" is more than toast, she's totally finished her political life. Why don't you go off the cliff with her?

[LibGranny]

60. I watch everything I can find re Obama

and I never saw him "crying like a baby." However, I have seen Slick Willy whining about hillary's treatment during debates and her "crying like a baby" after debates re her treatment. She gets this really ugly look on her face when she's upset - never saw that the other night so I believe she was in cohoots with lil Georgie Stephapoopoo about what questions were going to be asked. REgardless, she wasn't asked nearly as many STOOOOOPID questions as O was - they let her off on her lies about Bosnia - she said "a couple of times" -I know I heard her lie about sniper fire on at least 4 occasions! Maybe she can't stand the pressure - it does something to her memory!

[Blue_Roses]

63. She's so full of herself.

I'm really growing to detest each word that comes out of her mouth. She has been on record for: weeping; scolding; screaming; defensive (at other debates, no less); whining; and the list goes on and on. Everytime she tries to open her mouth to insult Obama--trying to make herself look good--turns more and more people off.

[barb162]

72. Tough questions for Obama are like kryptonite : cry and whine

[ima_sinnic]

75. I prefer imaginary "crying and whining" to real-life defensive cackling

like a blubbering idiot and, instead of answering, asking "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

keep repeating that outlandish bullshit about "cry and whine"--or provide a link.
Here's a link to the way a REAL president answers the tough questions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeQ6dxGMFA

[MethuenProgressive]

74. Clinton re Obama: "When the going gets tough you can’t run away."

She might as well have said "When the going gets tough you can’t blame ABC."

[Lucky 13]

78. Well of course she does. She received 1 bullshit question to every 4 posed to Obama's

She was completely in her element... mired knee deep in SHIT.

[SeaLyons]

79. Hillary for President....

Love the post. She is remarkable. She just has to be our next President.

Thanks for posting.

:kick:

[elmerdem]

82. It is truly a shame

that Hillary is unwilling to help raise the level of discussion in this country. This is gutter politics & it will be the ruin of our great nation. Some of us see that & some of us don't care to. I like how people scream about rovian politics, but cheer Hillary when she uses them.

You want to know who wears a lapel pin really well? Dubya & look where that has gotten us. It is time to raise the bar on the kind of questions we expect our candidates to answer. This is nothing but a distraction. It has distracted Hillary from reading the NIE on Iran & no one seems to care. We'll get what we deserve, but don't say some of us didn't try to change the tone of politics.

[ProSense]

84. No fair, pout, why do I always get the first question, pout:

Clinton's Cleveland Ohio Debate "Pillow" Comment & Complaint

[MethuenProgressive]

85. No one asked you the first question, Prosense. Stop pouting.

Don't be so bitter, join the Democratic Party!

[SeaLyons]

86. K&R

[MethuenProgressive]

88. Thanks, cricket!

:hi: