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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:03 AM
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Will Clinton show she was against the pardoning of Susan Rosenberg
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 11:04 AM by mmonk
and the commutation of the sentence of Linda Sue Evans?

Bill Clinton created alot of controversy on his last day of office by pardoning Susan L. Rosenberg and commuted the sentence of Linda Sue Evans.

Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years after being caught unloading 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons from a car in New Jersey in 1984. She was wanted on charges related to the deadly Brink's ambush but never tried on them, and Clinton's order released her after 16 years behind bars.

Evans was captured in 1985 along with one of the fugitives from the Brink's robbery, whom she was accused of harboring. She was sentenced to 40 years on a variety of weapons and terrorism related convictions including the 1983 Capitol bombing plot.

If she doesn't how will she prove her patriotism? If she doesn't, is she too linked to terrorism to run for the presidency? I'm waiting for her condemn and denounce moment in regards to this issue.


This question is for all those Hillary Clinton/Sean Hannity supporters that keep coming here trying to perpetuate the Obama/Ayers issue as something big or something questionable about Obama.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:06 AM
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1. It would be in her book, of course. Along with her dissent on Marc Rich pardon, right?
And her dissent for all the protection Bill gave BushInc when he deepsixed all the outstanding matters on IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning operations for Poppy and his cronies throughout the 90s, right?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:30 AM
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5. My book is missing those pages - I guess I got a defective copy
I actually liked the first 100 pages of the book - up until she met Clinton.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:00 PM
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7. Funny thing - Bill's book doesn't mention BCCI even once, though he was handed that report
when he took office and even more amazing since his book was written after 9-11, and BCCI at its very core was about the international financial networks that were funding global terrorism through illegal armsdealing, moneylaundering, drugrunning and nuclear proliferation operations of GHWBush and his powerful cronies - some of who have been lining the Clintons bank accounts by the tens of millions the last 8 years.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:22 PM
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9. Well, in discussing the MA Senate election in 1996
He credited Kerry on technology, the environment, and his long term interest in helping minority youth - but not that study. You would think that - as he wrote it after 9/11, he would want to look prescient and say that keeping the person in the Senate with a real handle on international money laundering and terrorism was a ral to keep him -- even if he was oblivious in 1996 about Kerry's value in that area. But, he also doesn't list the stonewalling on documents that Kerry requested in his examination of the Contra Drug running by Weld as a reason that he would not be a good Senator. Or that MA had passed their health insurance plan for children over Weld's veto - you know, the same program that in 1996 Kerry and Kennedy wrote a bill to make a federal program. I guess it was an insignificant difference between Weld and Kerry - though it was the precursor to S-CHIP the next year.

Then again, who other than Bill Clinton would think that in a book being edited for at least two months after Kerry was the defacto nominee of his party that ignoring all Kerry's work on the POW/MIA committee, the treaty that re-established relations with Vietnam, brokering the method for the Pol Pot hearings and other foreign policy issues. Everyone could see that foreign policy credentials, work against terrorism and work on health care are issues no one was interested in 2004.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:56 PM
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14. Yes, Bill's fawning over William Weld and only begrudgingly supporting Kerry in 1996
was as eye-opening as it gets.

Clinton wanted Weld because Weld was a BFEE fixer, too.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:06 AM
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2. Were any innocent bystanders killed in that robbery?
You know... like the ones that weren't killed by the WU?
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:23 AM
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3. How about 140 pardons/commutations?
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 11:36 AM by mrJJ
Officials Criticize Clinton's Pardon of an Ex-Terrorist

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a Republican, and United States Senator Charles E. Schumer, a Democrat, were among those who criticized the pardon, as did Bernard B. Kerik, New York City's police commissioner, and David Trois, a Rockland County police union official.

''It sickened me,'' Mr. Kerik said yesterday of the pardon, one of 140 granted Saturday, the final day of Mr. Clinton's tenure.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06EED7133CF931A15752C0A9679C8B63


FALN

Just last week, Secretary of State Madelein

Albright, speaking on the first anniversary of the
deadly U.S. embassy bombings in Africa, vowed
to wage an all-out war against terrorism. This
week, President Clinton turned that promise into a
joke by offering to commute the justifiably harsh
prison sentences of 14 FALN terrorists, including
the wife of its bomb-maker mastermind, the
notorious William Morales.

The FALN, for those who may have forgotten,
was a small group of separatists who launched a
deadly "war of nerves" to bring about
independence for Puerto Rico. Over a six-year
period, the group claimed responsibility for more
than 100 bombings that took six lives and injured
some 130 people

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/puertorico/sep4.htm

A list of the people pardoned or commuted Saturday before President Clinton left office, as released by the White House:

Names & Charges

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

Bubble Boy Bush's list will be a lot higher... ROFLMAO


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:26 AM
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4. Thanks for the addition.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:39 AM
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6. Black Liberation Army (BLA) killed 2 cops in 81 and unarmed weatherman David Gilbert was there - got
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 11:41 AM by papau
75 years.

Based on the back story of unloading a car trunk and letting the lady sleep over the two girls were put away with harsh sentences because the authorities could not capture the Blacks that did the killing and a message had to be sent.

Read the trial transcript.

Try again.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:20 PM
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8. Try what again?
If Obama/Ayers is a legitimate question concerning Obama, then this is a legitimate question to ask Clinton (unless you believe in double standards).
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:47 PM
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13. 2 ladies helped -served time- reformed as opposed to Ayers still wanting to bomb
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:08 PM
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10. It doesn't matter. Hillary is White.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:11 PM
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12. Yep. Pretty obvious. The politics of fear at work.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:09 PM
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11. I am so tired of Hillary and her nonsense. Exhausted. Please make her go away.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:10 PM
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15. well since it was Bill that pardoned her, I am of the opinion that
HRC did not begin a friendship with Ms. Rosenberg. Unlike B. Hussein Obama and friends with Ayers who still wants to do more bombings and killings i e 2001 after the 9 11 attack. Ayers is unrepentant about what he did and still wants to do. The difference, even though Ms Rosenberg was pardoned and still is unrepentant like Ayers neither clinton has a friendship they could walk away from because she like ayers still wants to destroy.Like pastor wright and ayers both enjoy still the friendship with B. Hussein Obama.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:13 PM
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16. are you really as ignorant as you sound?
A) Ayers comments were made before 9/11 and had nothing to do with them. This is an unverifiable fact, one that you are willfully ignoring.

B) Can you cite facts to support the existence of a "friendship" between Ayers and Obama? I'll be waiting with much interest.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:25 PM
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17. Did you observe more danger to this country from Ayers or from GHWBush and Jackson Stephens
and Bin Ladens and AQ Khan, all of who were protected throughout the 90s by Bill's deep-sixing of the outstanding matters in BCCI's illegal operations?

Care to compare Ben?
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 06:37 PM
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18. You sound like a right wing radical. Is it true?
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