OBAMA SCORES BACKING OF TWO SOUTHERN DEMOCRATIC ICONS

[monicaaida]

Former Senators San Nunn (GA) and David Boren (OK) endorse the Land of Lincolner.



http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/18/from-the-center/

[wndycty]

1. I saw that, and that is SWEET!

:kick:

[writes3000]

2. Good news. Looks like they're not SDs.

I'll take them anyway. We need support from the south.

[TragedyandHope]

3. More Kool-Aid drinkers

:sarcasm:

Thanks for the great news!

[dchill]

55. * sigh of relief * - for the sarcasm smiley...

:hi:

[dkf]

4. Sam Nunn...WOW.

[Bluebear]

11. Sam 'if gay people keep their private behavior private, if they don't declare and advertise.." Nunn

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V113/N16/nunn.16w.html

Wow.

[Renew Deal]

21. Your comment reminds me of this video

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1776175

[demwing]

46. Which reminded me of the movie Idiocracy

http://www.youtube.com/v/Tbxq0IDqD04&hl=en

[dkf]

30. Hey, the man has huge foreign policy creds.

If you can't acknowledge that then...whatever floats your boat.

PS why don't you criticize the Pope while you are at it. I don't seem to see many anti-gay accusations thrown at him over his visit. You should post a thread saying that he has no right to visit our country because of his views...then I'll think you have credibility on this issue.

[Bluebear]

The man considered running with Bloomberg this year.

If this is a great endorsement for you, have at it. I think Nunn is disgusting.

[dkf]

37. Hey, I like it...so sue me.

I'd like for you to disown all of Hillary Clinton's anti-gay endorsements. I'd think a lot of them are also racists, so I bet you'd find a boatload of them.

[Bluebear]

38. Great, enjoy, Nunn and Boren are two homophobes,

[SoonerPride]

60. DAVID BOREN IS NOT DAN BOREN

Good God you need any eduation.

[Armstead]

5. I have mixed feelings on this

More Sperdelegates -- Good

Sam Nunn -- I hope he didn't exact any promises from Obama.

[mopinko]

14. obama is not making any deals.

he isn't even giving out "street money" in philly.

[dchill]

56. I don't think they're superdelegates...

Just party elders. Or so I'm told.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5566116&mesg_id=5566131

[lastliberalintexas]

64. Thank you Armstead

From what I have seen, you have stayed very reasonable even though you have decided on a candidate.


I also hate that Nunn deigned to endorse ANY Dem, since he left the party long ago. Reich is a great endorsement, though, and he more than makes up for Nunn.

[babylonsister]

6. GOBAMA! Good ones! Any newbies for Hill lately? nt

[Lucky 13]

7. They're coming out of the woodwork...

Between Obama's lead, Hillary's constant mis-steps and mis-judgement in strategy, the American public being OUTRAGED at Wednesday's debate, and Howard Dean BEGGING superdelegates to announce their endorsements - the formula is right for this to be over VERY quickly.

[Bluebear]

8. ***Sam Nunn, author of "Don't ask, don't tell" can go to hell. Thank you.***

Congressional opposition to lifting the ban on gay and bisexual people in the armed forces was led by Democratic Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_ask,_don't_tell

[BeyondGeography]

10. Has he mocked any closed door fundraisers in San Francisco lately?

[SoFlaJet]

26. she looks like

she has a mouthful of something in that picture

[george_maniakes]

12. Does everything else that Nunn brings to the table outweight his stand on that issue though? n/t

[Bluebear]

16. What else does he bring to the table? Organizing a third party? (See below)

[Zachstar]

20. Do you mind not crapping all over this topic? I posted a wiki page people can see on their own thank

[Bluebear]

22. I was asked a question. Do you mind butting out?

[writes3000]

24. Zach, as a gay man, I like to know what people's records are on...

GLBT issues. So I appreciate the heads-up.

I also believe people can evolve and change so I hope Nunn has done both on these issues.

[Bluebear]

27. That would be nice, but I doubt it.

Somebody who actually says that gay men shouldn't "advertise their behavior" and considered a third-party run is not a name I would be thrilled at listing as an endorser.

[writes3000]

31. Correction: Your quote says "gay people". This isn't just about gay men.

I don't know Sam Nunn but I do know he can change. Here's hoping.

[Bluebear]

33. I responded to your sentence "as a gay man".

I am fully supportive of the entire GLBT community, thanks.

[PBS Poll-435]

43. Yikes...

I thought this was a discussion forum.

[Zachstar]

17. Have a look

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Nunn

[george_maniakes]

9. Can anyone confirm if they are supers? n/t

[PM7nj]

59. They're not.

I just checked the list at DemConWatch, they're not on it. But still good endorsements!

[Bluebear]

13. 2007: Dem turncoats Boren & Nunn host meeting to consider "third-party bid for the White House"

(Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other potential independent presidential candidates are joining prominent Republican and Democratic centrists at a meeting that will consider the merits of a third-party bid for the White House.

The Jan. 7 event was organized by former Democratic senators David Boren and Sam Nunn, and about a dozen prominent figures are expected to participate, including Bloomberg, former Republican senator John Danforth of Missouri and Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., each of whom has been mentioned as a possible independent candidate.

http://365gay.com/Newscon07/12/123107ind.htm

[liberaldem4ever]

15. That is really great news

:bounce: :kick:

[Shakespeare]

18. WOW.

That's big.

[sunnystarr]

19. Interesting ...

Nunn and Boren have accepted Senator Obama’s invitation to serve as advisers to his National Security Foreign Policy Team. Senator Nunn served for 25 years (1972-1997) in the United States Senate and was Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee from 1987 through 1995. Senator Boren served in the United States Senate from 1979 to 1994 and is the longest-serving Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Between them, the two senators bring nearly 60 years of service and experience in elective office.

http://thepage.time.com/endorsement-statements-of-former-sens-nunn-boren-for-obama-2/

[monicaaida]

23. hey

FORMER U.S. SENATORS SAM NUNN, DAVID BOREN ENDORSE BARACK OBAMA
Former Senate Armed Services and Intelligence Committee Chairmen Cite Obama’s Ability to Lead on National Security Issues

Chicago, IL – Today, Former Senators Sam Nunn and David L. Boren endorsed Barack Obama for president, citing his judgment and vision to be Commander and Chief and his ability to strengthen our national security.

Nunn and Boren have accepted Senator Obama’s invitation to serve as advisers to his National Security Foreign Policy Team. Senator Nunn served for 25 years (1972-1997) in the United States Senate and was Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee from 1987 through 1995. Senator Boren served in the United States Senate from 1979 to 1994 and is the longest-serving Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Between them, the two senators bring nearly 60 years of service and experience in elective office.

Former Senator Sam Nunn said, “America remains the strongest nation in the world, but we can only be successful in tackling our toughest problems if we gain cooperation at home and abroad. Our next president – working across party and economic lines – must restore and strengthen our national purpose, our credibility, our competence and our spirit.

“We need a president who has the temperament of a leader – a sharp, incisive, strategic mind, a rare capacity for self criticism, and a willingness to hear contrary points of view.

“Based on my conversations with Senator Obama, reading his book and his speeches and seeing the kind of campaign he has run, I believe that he is our best choice to lead our nation. Senator Obama, as evidenced by his words and his deeds, recognizes that:

· We have developed a habit of avoiding the tough decisions and seemingly lost our ability to build consensus to tackle head-on our biggest challenges.

· Demonizing the opposition, oversimplifying the issues, and dumbing down the political debate prevent our country from coming together to make tough decisions and tackle our biggest challenges.

· Solving America’s problems will require difficult choices and sacrifices and leaders capable of considering new ideas from both political parties.

· On foreign policy and security policy, we must recognize that we are not limited to a choice between belligerency and isolation and that we must listen to lead successfully on the key issues facing America and the world.

· Our next president must also recognize that the battle against violent terrorists, while requiring a prudent use of military power, is also a long-term contest of psychology and ideas.

“I believe that Senator Obama has a rare ability to restore America’s credibility and moral authority and to get others to join us in tackling serious global problems that will determine our own well being and security. I believe that he will bring to the White House, high principles, clear vision and sound judgment. I believe that he will inspire people to put aside extreme partisanship for the common good. I believe that he will awaken the energy and idealism of people who have never been active in public affairs, particularly our young people. I believe that he will also attract skilled, experienced and energetic people to government and will have the sound judgment to put together an outstanding governing team, bringing people together across old boundaries.

“I believe that Barack Obama is the right choice for our nation. My own role in this campaign will be as an advisor – particularly in the field of national security and foreign policy.”

Former Senator David L. Boren said, “I am joining Senator Barack Obama’s advisory team on foreign policy and national security because I believe it is my duty as a citizen to do all I can to help our country at this critical moment. Our strength is declining. Eighty-one percent of Americans believe we are headed in the wrong direction. We must act quickly to meet and overcome the challenges we face.

“Our most urgent task is to end the divisions in our country, to stop the political bickering, and to unite our talents and efforts. Americans of all persuasions are pleading with our political leaders to bring us together. I believe Senator Obama is sincerely committed to that effort. He has made a non-partisan approach to all issues a top priority.

“Senator Obama is also a person of sound and good judgment. He had the good judgment more than five years ago to warn against our involvement in this tragic and costly war. He also understands the need to repair our partnerships with other nations and to more effectively use diplomacy to serve our national interests.

“It is my hope that in sharing what I have learned during my time in public service, I will be helping my country.”

Senator Barack Obama said, “I am honored to have the support and counsel of two of our nation’s leading voices on national security, and two of our most respected advocates for national unity. Few public servants have done more than Sam Nunn to keep America safe, and I look forward to drawing on his counsel as we work to combat nuclear proliferation and other threats to America’s national security. David Boren is one of our nation’s foremost experts on intelligence, and he has been a powerful and passionate advocate for bipartisanship in Washington. Both of these men will be important sources of advice and counsel for our campaign in the months ahead.”

[Bluebear]

25. Sam Nunn, on the board at Chevron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Nunn

Here we go again :)

[hogwyld]

28. Must you defecate on this good news? n/t

[Bluebear]

29. This is good news? Just because they endorse your guy? Shame on you.

Anything for a win, eh?

[Zachstar]

34. Whats wrong with the other guy? David Boren

Or is your glee over one of them giving you a gotcha moment too much?

[Bluebear]

36. David Boren = 0% rating from the Human Rights Commission

http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Dan_Boren.htm

This is not "glee". It's about people (like you) who are gleeful over any "endorsement" without checking on who they are discussing.

[Zachstar]

40. When did I said I was gleeful? More assumptions

As for who Endorses Obama. That is their Choice.

If Clinton endorses Obama he will have someone who voted for war and against cluster bomb restraints in civilian areas.

Etc... Etc...

[Zachstar]

41. BTW WTF is with a 0% rating? Already I see good votes in there.

next time just post the link

[Bluebear]

42. Put me on ignore, I will do the same for you.

You're pushy. "Do this, just post that." I pay my rent here.

[Zachstar]

47. Bye Bye!! You post crap I will call it!

That 0% stuff is BS I have seen MULTIPLE good calls in the page you provided. So for someone to get 0% when they voted on at least one good bill is mathematically impossible.

I hope you do not try this stuff against McCain. His supporters will wipe the floor with it.

[donheld]

54. A 0% rating shows the Mr Boren was anti-gay

This may be of no importance to you, but many of us do care about those issues. While I welcome any endorsement of Obama, Mr Nunn's and Mr Boren's anti-gay crap does make it less of a good thing.

[SoonerPride]

57. Except of course, that link is about DAN Boren, not DAVID boren.

You don't even know the guy's name.

[donheld]

61. So we got the name wrong, did we get his gay rights record wrong?

[SoonerPride]

63. Well, yes, since David is not Dan. You did.

Thanks for nothing.

[donheld]

65. Thanks for ignoring his homophobia

[SoonerPride]

66. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I'm gay and DAVID Boren is fine on gay issues. He's an EX-SENATOR and is very well respected.

DAN Boren is a nephew and has NOTHING to do with the endorsement today.

[donheld]

70. Why didn't you say so to begin with?

[SoonerPride]

58. WRONG GUY. DAN IS NOT DAVID. DUH.

You are too quick to freak out to even know what you are doing.

Wake the FUCK UP.

[druidity33]

69. David Boren is not Dan Boren. nt

[thewiseguy]

39. You seem a bit too desperate now with your silly guilt by association crap

Nice way of going after people who do not agree with you on the gay rights issue.

Their endorsement also emphasizes other issues.

[Bluebear]

44. Nunn is a corporatist oilmonger. What IS desperate is being gleeful about ANY endorsement.

There is still something called principle.

[thewiseguy]

48. These two men have tremendous experience on the national security front

How can you ignore that? Just because they are homophobes?

Are they going to advise Obama on gay right policies? Dont give me this corporatist crap dude. I know why you went all nuts over these endorsements.

[Bluebear]

49. You don't know shit about me. Good bye.

[thewiseguy]

50. Why dont you go cry in a corner

[Bluebear]

51. Put me on ignore, I will do the same for you.

There's something called PRINCIPLE which you will never understand. Adios.

[thewiseguy]

52. ...

[ampad]

32. Great News

Rec

[meow mix]

35. K&R so many endorsements lately. looks like the gates have been opened

its time

[mckeown1128]

45. The quesiton is... are they super delegates??? NT

[Scurrilous]

53. K & R

:thumbsup:

[mod mom]

62. KEEP THEM COMING!

[FrenchieCat]

67. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

damn!

[redqueen]

68. K&R