After watching Edwards on Colbert......

[Infinite Hope]

It reminds me how much I miss him. We got it wrong in 2004 and again in 2008. He was the most electable. He was Hillary + Obama in one: charismatic, brilliant, appealed to working class voters as well as educated voters, and managed to be a moderate and progressive at the same time by framing progressive issues in a logical way that appealed to working class people including Republicans.

[GetTheRightVote]

1. I like Edwards as well, hopefully we will see more from him in the future

I hope...

[bigwillq]

2. I would've liked Edwards

over Obama or Clinton but it wasn't meant to be. The people voted and it looks like Obama is going to be the nominee.

But I know what ya mean.

[mac2]

3. The people voted for who they thought they wanted as

per the media. It's not what they want when you talk about the issues.

[bigwillq]

5. That's sad if some people voted that way

I went with my heart and voted DK, even when he had no chance. Edwards probably would've been my second choice. Then Biden, Dodd.

[quantass]

9. Remind me never to ask you for Lotto #s

[bigwillq]

18. Ok.

I still believe that DK was/is the most progressive of the 2008 candidates. In a primary one is allowed to vote with their heart.

[mac2]

28. I supported Dennis Kucinich this year until he wanted amnesty.

We have a record number of immigrants already coming into this country yet they want more. They are strike breakers Dennis. What happened to that union support and anti-globalism agenda?

Seems his support of amnesty is for his own self interest. His religion.

I wasn't happy when Dennis talked his delegates into not talking and demanding an anti-war policy for the party at the DNC 2004 convention. His supporters were crying since many left college, their jobs, etc. to join his campaign only to be denied their agenda.

His British wife maybe? Maybe not but I'm "bitter".

[JI7]

11. nope, i voted with my head and heart for Obama

after looking at the candidate records and issues .

[dflprincess]

23. You'd think the public would wake up after the way the media helped Bush lie us into Iraq

Sooner or later people will learn that they should find out why the media is ignoring a candidate.

[mac2]

40. Congress supported him too.

[stillcool]

44. I voted for Obama...

and I haven't listened to the 'media' in years. I am thrilled when I read about the 'media' spinning their hearts out trying to bring Obama down, and sitting by stunned when their efforts fail. It looks like 'we the people' learned a thing or two since 2000.

[GrandmaJones7]

37. He could have saved us

-from all these problems. AND he would have been the strongest one against mcCain. Darn shame it was not him! But HRC is our next best hope.

[earth mom]

57. NO-the corporate media CHOSE the candidates for you. Edwards was ignored.

Yet another crime committed by the corporate bastards that really run this country. :grr:

[question everything]

4. But as Elizabeth observed, he was not black and not a woman

Did not have Bill or Oprah to draw crowds.

And people are looking for someone who would excite them, who would not be the same old candidate - a white man - and poor Edwards got shoved to the side.

I think that the biggest betrayers were the people of Iowa. He campaigned there practically non-stop from 2004 and they turned against him because Oprah told them to.

One more reason to move IA and NH from their King makers roles that contribute millions of dollars to the states' economy every four years.

[mac2]

30. Oprah supported Arnold "Swatzengunner" too.

It was blatant just like her support of Obama. I stopped watching her show after that. You get rich and become a political hack.

The media turned them against Edwards for the "real candidates" who could win. Emmm that could lose it for us once again.

[earth mom]

58. Yep, this election is all about the cult of celebrity-just more b.s. fed to America

by the corporate media whores.

The coverage is not much different than the teevee show "Entertainment Tonight".

Oh and don't forget all the bussed in voters to Iowa by Obama. Talk about padding the vote! :puke:

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. He said in case you missed it on Colbert

'I will not abandon 'HOPE" but on the other hand
I don't want to get bit my Carville.'

He was my second choice, but he needs to stop his shit and quit playing games.

[ColbertWatcher]

8. America needs Edwards in the next cabinet!

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. I want him as Attorney General sooooooo Bad!!

He knows how to go after the bad guys.

I was for Dennis first, then Edwards, now Obama.

[ColbertWatcher]

22. The GOP would fear a real DoJ under Edwards! n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. The Corporate Crooks are shaking in their Boots at that prospect

If he wants another cabinet position fine! But, I think he could do so much
more in that position to do the things he advocates .

[mac2]

38. Such as?

[mac2]

31. Me too.

Maybe he can keep the laws and the Constitution for the people? Which is his duty anyway. Doesn't look promising for the Presidential candidates to give up any power to the people.

[melody]

10. It was comedy -- jokes -- humor n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. I think think he would let them put words in his mouth

if he didn't agree with them...

It was a slam to the Clinton camp.

[mac2]

32. Even if the people supported his decisions?

[waiting for hope]

29. Why? Both have negatives

when it comes to the progressive agenda - Hillary's healthcare plan is better but is in bed with corporations, Obama is bringing a message of hope but his healthcare plan sucks and his Exelon ties are not making him a friend to the environment. If he were to endorse Obama, he would be branded an opportunists like Richardson, if he were to endorse Clinton, he would be branded a racist and republican-lite. Did you really watch Colbert? He talked about 37 million Americans in poverty and ending it in 30 years, he talked about Universal Healthcare and the 47 million Americans that don't have it - this isn't a game to him and if you feel that way about Edwards - then how about Gore? Is he exempt from your scorn?

[mac2]

33. Japan and Switzerland have insurance companies involved.

Still the people don't lose their homes and everyone gets good cheap health care, dental, etc. It's low cost to run too.

I don't really know for sure what she has in mind. She had a plan when Bill was President for National Health Care for everyone. Is this the same or not?

[Ichingcarpenter]

49. My Scorn?

I hope you posted to someone else.

Edwards has said nothing on torture, and the realizations
on the sicking crisis, Iraq, the banking crisis or the economy
but he talks on TV about comedy on late night shows.

He could get a venue to on TV to talk about anything on Daytime
bullshit MSM media. Maybe he will after the fight is over.


But all along the watchtower .............two riders were approaching
and the wind began to Howl.....


Something is wrong, with that, in addition, no answers to his supporters
or even staff members, telling us WHAT'S UP?

[earth mom]

59. You obviously know NOTHING about Edwards. Here, EDUCATE YOURSELF:

John Edwards' Plan To End The War In Iraq
http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/iraq/

Edwards Calls for Quick End to Iraq Training
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/us/politics/02edwards.html?hp

Protecting The Constitution And Respecting Our Freedoms
http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/civil-liberties/

John Edwards: “No more secret prisons, no more torture or condoning torture.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/03/john-edwards-no-more-secret-prisons-no-more-torture-or-condoning-torture/

Ending the Housing Crisis
http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/predatory-mortgages/

[Kokonoe]

7. The average person who glanced at the news,

probably never saw him running for president. The M$M is lower than low.

[quantass]

12. My Observation: People wanted Change, and he was Boring to listen to, and

didnt have big name endorsers....
I've focused more on Edwards and i do like what he has to say but people were fed up with Washington's new serving (despite that not being true when u listen and look at his record)

[mac2]

34. Didn't have big money or the media behind him?

[democrat2thecore]

13. An over-caffeinated young guy is how a lot of people viewed him

And too willing to flip-flop on issues.

[dflprincess]

26. Young guy?

Thanks! He's 17 days older than me so that must mean I'm still a young one too (as well as being I'm over-caffeinated). :bounce:

[Aussie leftie]

14. He'll end up being the best president you never had n/t

[democracy1st]

17. lol

[mac2]

35. But the secret government didn't pick him because he was

too democratic?

[Infinite Hope]

50. That was Gore. n/t

[TahitiNut]

15. The corporate media's Survivor-mentality WANTED the (melo)drama of ...

... a black man vs. a white woman. There's just no question in my feeble mind that they were creaming their drawers at the prospect ... not to mention the FACT that the 'loss' of either one can be spun in ways it doesn't take much to imagine.

This, of course, doesn't speak to (or dismiss) the merits of either candidate. It does, however, speak to the treatment of news and politics as just another form of entertainment. And WE cooperate.

[Beregond2]

16. He will have a big role in the next administration

I have no doubt.

[burythehatchet]

19. His candidacy was snuffed out by the Chamber of Comm and big biz

including, in no small part, the corp media.

[dflprincess]

27. You nailed it.

n/t

[TexanDem]

24. I supported Edwards but not nearly as enthusiastically as now Obama.

[Thrill]

36. Sadly Edwards is not very popular here in NC

He wouldn't of been able to carry his own state in the GE or the Primary.

[mac2]

39. Why not? Too many Republicans and war hawks like the Doles?

[DemDogs]

53. Cannot believe Clarkies STILL at it.

Edwards beat the Helms machine and an incumbent. He would have won NC. (Kerry might have had a chance if he had ever launched a campaign in NC.)

[DawgHouse]

41. I've always liked him too!

[crankychatter]

42. Not a Yankee Soul in Washington State in 04 would help Me

ya'all are prejudiced and addicted to failure, I swear

The IWV was a problem

The co-authoring of the Patriot Act, another problem

But he could've won... no two ways about it...

But I had to join my sons with Kucinich after I got through giving them hell with Howard Dean

an endorsement by Gary Locke for Kerry was the kiss of death for him, with me.

Still in the General.... I fought like a dog for him

We were robbed in 2000 and 04

period

[Buzz Clik]

43. I like Edwards very much and favored him over Kerry in 2004.

However, I find Edwards to lack the depth of both Kerry and Obama.

I would not be unhappy with a President Edwards, but I would not prefer it.

[TheDonkey]

45. Edwards is not the most electable. Get over it

Yes he was plenty funny now that he is not running for office and has nothing to lose by making fun of himself. He is a nice man. But just because he is a white man with a Southern accent does not a sure thang make.

[DemDogs]

54. But the polls disagreed with you. Have any evidence? (n/t)

[FlyingSquirrel]

46. We haven't seen the last of Edwards.

eom

[davidpdx]

47. I respect Edwards, he was my second choice

Early on I sent a little money to both Edwards and Obama because I couldn't make up my mind. A month later I decided on Obama and have never regretted supporting him.

[mattclearing]

48. If only the voters agreed with you. n/t

[ClericJohnPreston]

51. The measure of how far

we have fallen, is noticeable every time Edwards is on the scene.

Edwards was the only viable Dem candidate representing the core values of the Democratic Party, it's LEFT wing. I am disgusted by political neophytes who embrace a candidate, Obama, who threw his Party's activists under the bus, embraced Reagan ( REAGAN FOR GOSH SAKES ), invites Corporations to rape and pillage some more, and see the world as a mindless amoeba of zombie-like lemmings..

I embrace all my fellow Edwards supporters WHO HAVEN'T GIVEN IN TO THE KOOL-AID CROWD.

[Nutmegger]

52. It's really sad, the thought of what could have been.

Edwards is the best. I will always be a proud of the fact that I volunteered my time for his campaign in New Hampshire. Looking back, those were good times.

[Orsino]

55. He's not the same man he was in 2004.

As with Gore, he seems to have benefited greatly from his time away from Washington, and is leaning progressive now.

[Mezzo]

56. Me too. Stand and Fight! I'd be happy to see a convention that has his somewhere.

but it's only wishful thinking.

[CK dexter]

60. I love Edwards but no, he's not "most electable"

I'm closer to Edwards than Obama on the issues, and I'm sad he's out of the race. But I think he's less electable than either Obama or Hillary. Primarily for the most trivial of reasons: he's too pretty. Americans like a veneer of roughness of toughness, they wouldn't take to him. The other reason is that since his key position is the "two Americas" theme, he forces the majority of Americans to admit they're on the bottom half, which goes against our deepest instincts. It's a serious issue and a correct diagnosis--but it's a losing political platform.

[Nedsdag]

61. He should've been the nominee in 2004.

I know he wouldn't have backed down from the Bush deluge.